Redline Water Wetter - Coolant Additive
Has anyone used this product in their cooling system ??
Have you noticed any significant change in your water temps ??
Red Line Water Wetter Coolant Additive
Have you noticed any significant change in your water temps ??
Red Line Water Wetter Coolant Additive
I've seen a few threads where people stated it didn't do anything ... but I wonder if they just put it in the overflow tank, or actually put it into one of the hoses to make sure it actually entered the coolant system.
Snake oil? I was always told water is the best fluid for heat exchange just reduce your coolant to water ratio to acheive better heat transfer. 50/50 is normally overkill unless you live in cold climate.
Originally Posted by ProjectMayhem
Snake oil? I was always told water is the best fluid for heat exchange just reduce your coolant to water ratio to acheive better heat transfer. 50/50 is normally overkill unless you live in cold climate.
I've used it in mine. Though I just change dout the coolant a couple weeks ago and haven't added any back in.
From everything I've heard it does help a bit because it is supposed to reduces the viscosity of the water and help aire pass through it better and pull more heat...
So I've heard.
But I haven't heard anything negative about it ever, so for $5 or whatevver it is...Not a bad deal.
From everything I've heard it does help a bit because it is supposed to reduces the viscosity of the water and help aire pass through it better and pull more heat...
So I've heard.
But I haven't heard anything negative about it ever, so for $5 or whatevver it is...Not a bad deal.
A Friend of mine in AZ used years ago in his heavily modified 16v jetta. He noticed a bit of a drop in coolant temp, but nothing i would deem significant.
-Dave
-Dave
Stewart Components - High Performance Automotive Cooling
"If the softening agents actually aided in cooling the engine, the temperature of the coolant as it exited the engine would have to be higher because it would have absorbed more heat."
Wouldn't this mean the temp gauge should register higher temps when the hotter coolant passes over the sensor?
"If the softening agents actually aided in cooling the engine, the temperature of the coolant as it exited the engine would have to be higher because it would have absorbed more heat."
Wouldn't this mean the temp gauge should register higher temps when the hotter coolant passes over the sensor?
Last edited by BrianBrave; Apr 11, 2010 at 04:42 PM.
I agree as the heat has to be taken away by a combination of higher temp fluid or a higher rate of flow.
There is one other way which is to increase the specific heat of the liquid.
As I have been talking about the specific heat of water is 1.0 and that to my knowledge that is as high as it goes. Antifreeze dilutes waters effect to about 0.6 or so. That means a 40% REDUCTION IN COOLING !!!!!
I have decided to reduce the antifreeze content in my car below 50% - 50% (-60 F DEGREES RATED ). Iam running just enough antifreeze to go to about 15 TO 20 degrees ABOVE ZERO which gives me better cooling without additives. I have added some water pump lubricant and rust preventative to compensate for the rust protection 50% antifreeze provides.
Basically water straight is best if it does not cause rusting or damage due to freezing. Woody
There is one other way which is to increase the specific heat of the liquid.
As I have been talking about the specific heat of water is 1.0 and that to my knowledge that is as high as it goes. Antifreeze dilutes waters effect to about 0.6 or so. That means a 40% REDUCTION IN COOLING !!!!!
I have decided to reduce the antifreeze content in my car below 50% - 50% (-60 F DEGREES RATED ). Iam running just enough antifreeze to go to about 15 TO 20 degrees ABOVE ZERO which gives me better cooling without additives. I have added some water pump lubricant and rust preventative to compensate for the rust protection 50% antifreeze provides.
Basically water straight is best if it does not cause rusting or damage due to freezing. Woody
Originally Posted by waldig
Basically water straight is best if it does not cause rusting or damage due to freezing. Woody
If I take it as an if it doesn't question its an OK statement but could confuse, as it did this old fart.
PS
The specific gravity of water is 1 at about 39 deg.F
and the specific heat is not 1.
Last edited by onehundred80; Apr 11, 2010 at 06:13 PM.
Class can anyone tell mr 180 what he DID NOT STUDY in last nights homework assignment???
Yes willie wikipedia, If you know the answer, please go ahead.
Thermal mass - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Water does not promote rust if there are no ferrous or ferric compounds. Also dionized water has non rusting characteristics. In an aluminum motor if there are no simple steel parts your ok, but I still add rust inhibitor. In Virginia in my unheated garage it never gets below freezing as demonstrated by the water bottles over the last 20+ years. It is heated and cooled with a two heatpump when I get weak and wimp out while doing projects.
Water holds like 8 times the heat per pound when compared with steel ( iron). Same heat the iron gets 8 times as hot, amazing what atoms do to keep you on your toes.
Woody
Yes willie wikipedia, If you know the answer, please go ahead.
Thermal mass - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Water does not promote rust if there are no ferrous or ferric compounds. Also dionized water has non rusting characteristics. In an aluminum motor if there are no simple steel parts your ok, but I still add rust inhibitor. In Virginia in my unheated garage it never gets below freezing as demonstrated by the water bottles over the last 20+ years. It is heated and cooled with a two heatpump when I get weak and wimp out while doing projects.
Water holds like 8 times the heat per pound when compared with steel ( iron). Same heat the iron gets 8 times as hot, amazing what atoms do to keep you on your toes.
Woody
Originally Posted by waldig
Class can anyone tell mr 180 what he DID NOT STUDY in last nights homework assignment???
Last edited by onehundred80; Apr 11, 2010 at 08:46 PM.
The one thing missing is that a water wetter is a surfactant. It breaks the surface tension of water and allows better temperature exchange between the liquid and metal surfaces.
So it helps at heat transfer throughout the system.
Sounds great fo the separated IC systems out there.
So it helps at heat transfer throughout the system.
Sounds great fo the separated IC systems out there.
Originally Posted by 70GT6
The one thing missing is that a water wetter is a surfactant. It breaks the surface tension of water and allows better temperature exchange between the liquid and metal surfaces.
So it helps at heat transfer throughout the system.
Sounds great fo the separated IC systems out there.
So it helps at heat transfer throughout the system.
Sounds great fo the separated IC systems out there.
+1 to this
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