Hello guys,

I got some questions, to say the least. I've done a fair amount of research and talked to people, including mechanics, and I'm still struggling for answers. I would like to hear you guys experiences and thoughts.

1. Regarding OEM air filters, my impression is that you can have the same thing as the official OEM air filter for less by getting the exact make model by Mann. Is that correct, and if so, what is the parts number for that? My impression is that Mann also makes a reusable version as well...how does that stack agains the paper?

2. I'm pretty overwhelmed by the selection of filters, and the contentious pros and cons that come with everything. I'm having a hard time choosing between Paper, Foam, Cotton (is it also called fleece?), and then oiled vs dry reusable.

So instead of making you guys write small conflicting novels detailing the pros and cons of everything, let me just tell you what I'm looking for and you guys can tell me which filters would best meet my specifications.


I would like to use reusable ($$), provided that:

1. It won't interfere my chrysler extended warranty. I don't want a mechanic blaming my choice of air filters if something goes wrong, especially if it is a MAF sensor issue. I know K&N (and possibly others) supposedly defend users against their dealership, but I'm on good terms with my dealership and have no intention of going there. Life is too short for drama going back and forth between me, the manufacturer, and the dealership, even if I come out on top.

2. The filtering level will not result in long term engine damage, or at least, not worse than paper. I know some people are like "its been 100,000 miles and I'm fine", but I plan on keeping my vehicle for a long time, and just because its fine for now doesn't mean your not setting yourself up for problems later. I don't want to find 50,000 miles later a bunch of particulate surprises in my engine and my pipes that would not have been there had I kept using a disposable filter.

3. It's not going to have a negative impact on MPG or reliability.

Regarding oiled vs non oiled.

My impression is that non oiled reusable air filters simply need to hosed with water every now and then, and you don't have to worry about getting too much or too little oil. If this is the case, and if the three aforementioned stipulations are met, I would prefer to use a non oiled reusable air filter; so in that case, what filters would you recommend and why?

Now, let's say that the above stipulations can't be met. Let's say in order for me not to compromise on either warranty concerns, reliability, wear, and mpg, I would have to stick with a disposable. If that is the case, what disposable filters would you recommend and why?

Hopefully these questions make sense, let me know if you need any further clarification, and thank you for your time...it is appreciated! I think many others might benefit from this thread as well

 

Would it help your decision if you knew that your extended warranty is probably worthless. I submit that Chrysler will be of no help if you have any problems; just my $.02.
I personally like the K.&N. oiled filters on my aftermarket dual CAI system and I use pre-filter socks over them for extended service life(you can take your socks off, if or when you go to the drag strip). When I had the stock intake system, I used a set of K.&N. paper drop in filters; easy peasy. I'm sure there are threads debating the different type of filters if you wanted to search the forum here.
I see that this is your first post on our forum; welcome.

 

Thank you for your advice, and thank you for welcoming to the forum...lots of knowledgeable people around here

With all due respect, the dealerships have been very good about honoring the terms of the warranty, so I intend on staying within the terms if possible

Do you think a CAI would have warranty implications? Regardless, does a CAI have any impact on reliability or MPG?

 

I, and many others have a CAI, and in my experience the MPG increased.
There should be no issues with reliability, the old engine cover filtration is much more prone to any unfiltered air leaks than the CAI.
The mechanic at my local dealer ( where I only took it for a dynamic tire balancing ) said it was an improvement in his opinion.

In regards to you other post, a CAI will effect the cosmetic appearance of your engine bay.

 

Thanks again for your advice. I should have been more specific regarding interior and exterior. By interior, I mean the cabin, and by exterior, I mean the outside of the vehicle; I could care less what the engine bay looks like, so any other performance recommendations you have that effects in that without effecting the other stipulations are fully welcomed.

 

Well, then pitch in a CAI and delete the 74 mm MAF housing.
That's about all she wrote for NA performance.

BTW, there are no gains ( other than appearance ) with the dual CAI over the single CAI on the NA's

CAI, 74 MM TB, EuroCharged tune

 

How long have you owned your Crossfire? And what issues have you had that the Chrysler dealership actually helped you with? The only thing that I know of that a dealership is good at, is lying and overcharging.

 

they have replaced my ignition system and a few things here and there that I can't remember. One involved the suspension I believe. Another time my electronic readout was giving faulty information and they replaced that too.

 

Cool. what does the eurocharge do?

 

It's an electronic reprogram of the PTCM ( Power Train Control Module )
From their website :
HP: 215 stock to 239 with tune
Torque : 229 stock to 253

You do it at home with your laptop and the cable / software they send.

O ! And there is also the "Sprint Booster" you can add - no extra power, but you get what you have more quickly.

 

I'm just curious, why wouldn't the vehicle come out the factory with these settings? It seems odd that a mere software change could give better results out of the box than what is already there, if that makes sense.

 

@DinaSRT....I had the Chrysler extended warranty and my dealer fixed every problem that came up no matter how complicated or expensive and only charged me the $100 deductible each time.
@Chris Crossfire....the paper air filter is good for 60,000 miles according to the owners manual. I have 116,000 miles on my car and have changed the filter once. I use Purolator. I have another set in the house and will change them when it gets a little warmer. I average between 22-23 mpg combo 50-50 city/ highway and about 28 mph if I'm doing a long highway run.

 

If you're going to use a "drop in" disposable paper filter element, just about any reputable brand (i.e., Purolator, Fram, AC, WIX, NAPA, etc.) will suffice. Not much difference in quality (IMHO) between any of them. Usally just a matter of which one is on sale at any given time.

I've got the factory setup still on my coupe as I prefer to keep things stock looking on the Crossfire. I do have the K&N re-usable "drop in" filter elements. I typically take them out,, clean & re-oil them every couple of years. Gas milage holds steady at around 22-23 around town; 26-28 on the highway during weekend trips and to & from XFire GTG's.

Later,

 

As infrequent as it may be, it's refreshing to hear when someone has a positive experience with a Chrysler dealership in regards to repair work on the Crossfire.