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Swap C32 into E32 (SRT supercharged into NA car)

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Old Aug 3, 2017 | 02:16 PM
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Default Swap C32 into E32 (SRT supercharged into NA car)

Has this been done? Seems like it could be relatively straightforward?

pondering a supercharged engine from a SRT into a manual NA. Any issues?
 
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Old Aug 3, 2017 | 02:22 PM
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1. transmission is different
2. suspension is different
3. electronics are different
4. instrument cluster is different
5. brakes are different
6. differential ratio is different

Not sure the engine electronic wiring harnesses are the same even IF you put the srt6 PTCM in the NA.

( but I do believe it has been done )
 
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Old Aug 3, 2017 | 02:27 PM
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Yeah I'm not talking about turning it into an SRT... just wondering about pulling the NA motor and dropping in the S/C version. None of the suspension / brakes / diff / dash / etc matters for that, unless the supercharger weighs a bunch or something.

What I am worried about is the ECU, and if it's going to be sad with the manual transmission. (Does it expect a TCU?)
 
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Old Aug 3, 2017 | 02:34 PM
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now you are WAAAAAY above my head. ( SRT6 / NA / 6 speed )
Ask Rob at Needswings.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2017 | 02:38 PM
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Default Re: Swap C32 into E32 (SRT supercharged into NA car)

Originally Posted by Blacksunshine
Has this been done? Seems like it could be relatively straightforward?

pondering a supercharged engine from a SRT into a manual NA. Any issues?
It would probably be less trouble ,to put a manual trans into an SRT. But that hasn't been done either , that I know of. There's been 1 turbo added ​​(from my understanding , he has no hair left...lol) a few V8 swaps an conversions (with only a couple of masterminds capable of pulling it off) an we'll not get into the math , as to why this would not be a cost effective project even if you could, get the coding right. How would you keep it from exploding, the first time you missed a gear?. Hit the search button on an item or 2 I mentioned. Enjoy the reading.

I forgot to mention the dual carbs!
 

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Old Aug 3, 2017 | 03:13 PM
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STILL have hair yo!
 
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Old Aug 3, 2017 | 08:55 PM
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STILL have hair yo!
Only took two weeks

Still curious of boost pressure?
 
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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 02:16 AM
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I've just completed one

Mine was SRT (from several donors) into my NA Roadster

Automatic to automatic

My understanding is that you cannot install the manual trams into this setup

The drive shaft is different, the rear components are different as well. You have to flash the ECU to make it compatible. TCU would have to be from an SRT.

Suspension and brakes remain the same
Power steering hoses are different, same steering box, different trans lines at the rad to accommodate the SC cooler

You will also have to run power to the SC Waterpumpnand the secondary air pump

It's doable, it's a question of time and money. The money adds up in a hurry
 
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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 05:39 AM
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Waay too much trouble /
Just get a cheap srt ,while you still can ,get the tcu tuned and buy the paddle shifter kit from tighed1
if and when he starts making them again .. hint hint
:-)
 
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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by daveesrt6
Waay too much trouble /
Just get a cheap srt ,while you still can ,get the tcu tuned and buy the paddle shifter kit from tighed1
if and when he starts making them again .. hint hint
:-)
tighed1 ( DJ ) did not make the paddle shifter kits, Chris ( latemodel21 ) did.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ala_xfire
tighed1 ( DJ ) did not make the paddle shifter kits, Chris ( latemodel21 ) did.
Ahh , ok i stand corrected.
My point is still the same tho
 
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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Speedy4x4
Only took two weeks

Still curious of boost pressure?


Seeing 5lbs of boost.
Don't drive her much so one of these days I'll post her for sale.
Then someone else can have the only running turbo'd NA!
 
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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 09:34 AM
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I'll take it DJ if you will pay me $2000.
Make that $4000, I don't need the headache.
I can just see calling AAA when I am on the side of the road and it won't start
( just kidding, of course )
 
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Old Aug 10, 2017 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ala_xfire
1. transmission is different
2. suspension is different
3. electronics are different
4. instrument cluster is different
5. brakes are different
6. differential ratio is different

Not sure the engine electronic wiring harnesses are the same even IF you put the srt6 PTCM in the NA.

( but I do believe it has been done )
yes it is different but what we want to know is if we could make it work like a n/a + a supercharger. Not transform into an SRT. Swap the engine with the N/A tuned electronics?
 

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Old Aug 11, 2017 | 06:24 AM
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yes it is different but what we want to know is if we could make it work like a n/a + a supercharger. Not transform into an SRT. Swap the engine with the N/A tunes electronic?
I honestly do not know.
I will bow out at this point and leave it to those with more SRT6 knowledge than I.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2017 | 09:40 AM
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A straight swap with nothing else will not work

The secondary air pump and the SC Water cooler require requiring/ new circuit. You will also require an ECU flashed and reprogrammed to make it all speak together.

required are;
new trans lines (by the rad to accommodate the SC cooler.
New PS Hose. NA to SRT Are different.

The engine will fit but needs the SRT wiring or rework of the existing NA

I rewired much of my own items and had Rudy C to reprogram an SRT ECU

Straight swap with nothing else nogp. Lots of work for nothing.

Lots of items need to be changed, once reworked, yes this will work.

Just buy a cheap one as a donor
 
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Old Aug 11, 2017 | 11:11 AM
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Default Re: Swap C32 into E32 (SRT supercharged into NA car)

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STILL have hair yo!
Ya that is 12 year old Picture LOL !
 
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Old Aug 11, 2017 | 02:37 PM
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Ya that is 12 year old Picture LOL !
Better hope your RCM don't go bad ; All hail the tighed1...
 
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Old Aug 11, 2017 | 07:15 PM
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Default Re: Swap C32 into E32 (SRT supercharged into NA car)

Originally Posted by Blacksunshine
Has this been done? Seems like it could be relatively straightforward?

pondering a supercharged engine from a SRT into a manual NA. Any issues?
if you can wait about 6 months , i'll have a srt with a supercharged V8 in it ( being built as we speak) that way you can keep or sell your limited, $25000, OBO graphite gray .
the cost to do it your way would be close . only you would get this one turn key. jim
 
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Old Aug 17, 2017 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by alexdc
yes it is different but what we want to know is if we could make it work like a n/a + a supercharger. Not transform into an SRT. Swap the engine with the N/A tuned electronics?
Srt and na engines are different, srt is built with lower compression to handle the boost, on a na engine might not be able to handle more than 7 psi, boost raises compression.
 
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