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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 10:06 AM
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by FUBU
I like everything with the SRT except for the rearwing, alloys and frontlip and the seats. In short, look like my white n/a and fly like the SRT. I feel to old to be driving a car with a large rear wing. (all this talk about it has made me to like it more though..) In my country the car showing off the rearwing is quite geeky... like a car that runs slow need to have a wing in order to look fast. nicer to have an "erecting" wing. plus the ladies loves it.
I think the srt guys are the only ones who like rear wings .. I agree with you completely though, If they made a white srt with the orange interior, pop up wing and a stick I'd be driving one.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 10:26 AM
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by downwardspiral
I think the srt guys are the only ones who like rear wings .. I agree with you completely though, If they made a white srt with the orange interior, pop up wing and a stick I'd be driving one.
Hi nice to have someone sharing my taste. I heard that it would not be such a problem changing the spoiler... A manual button inside car must be an easy install. Making the 60mph trigger work is maybe harder... Or?
 
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by downwardspiral
I think the srt guys are the only ones who like rear wings .. I agree with you completely though, If they made a white srt with the orange interior, pop up wing and a stick I'd be driving one.
The wing grows on you, I wasn't to keen on it and said the same thing you just did before I switched to the SRT. I've always thought the Limited's wing was queer when left in the upright position, but loved the lines when it was down. The SRT wing continues with the channel/spine in the hood and just adds to the look of the car. Both are beautiful though.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 11:20 AM
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Changing the SRT wing to the NA flip up was done by Guran in Germany also.... on all THREE of his cars.... one is a Startech I believe...


Fubu... good luck with your project... I like the SRT wing better, but the 'erecting' wing gets lots of comments and looks when it 'rises'...

from one Swede(mostly) to another..
 
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Thirteendog
The wing grows on you, I wasn't to keen on it and said the same thing you just did before I switched to the SRT. I've always thought the Limited's wing was queer when left in the upright position, but loved the lines when it was down. The SRT wing continues with the channel/spine in the hood and just adds to the look of the car. Both are beautiful though.
I will admit that my wing does occasionally look at the other male wings, but queer is a little harsh.. Its bi-curious at worst.
My car kind of reminds me of one of these, the wing adds to the effect.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 11:43 AM
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Changing the SRT wing to the NA flip up was done by Guran in Germany also.... on all THREE of his cars.... one is a Startech I believe...


Fubu... good luck with your project... I like the SRT wing better, but the 'erecting' wing gets lots of comments and looks when it 'rises'...

from one Swede(mostly) to another..
Okay, just sent a german PM to Guran and we'll see what he says.
There was a SRT for sale just a month ago with the wing taken away. I also think the n/a wing looks rather queer when it is "erected" , but cool as it is the new thing. both audi TT, Peugeot RCZ, Bentley, Boxster have them.. When I buy my car it will be when I am going over there in Feb and it must be located close to FL.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by downwardspiral
I will admit that my wing does occasionally look at the other male wings, but queer is a little harsh.. Its bi-curious at worst.
My car kind of reminds me of one of these, the wing adds to the effect.
LOL,
queer [kwɪə]
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get your mind out of the gutter man,
 
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 02:07 PM
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LOL,
queer [kwɪə]
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get your mind out of the gutter man,
hey my mind was born in the gutter.....quear.....btw....
 
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Old Oct 30, 2010 | 06:19 PM
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Also remember you may have to switch out the BCM. If you are looking for a working N/A spoiler the BCM on the SRT6 is programmed for a bit more spirited driving as the wing is static as opposed to the N/A wing which is deployed at speed. The BCM on the SRT6 will not know to deploy the wing at speed.

 
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Hellums
The two slots at the bottom of the SRT bumper is what gives your heat exchanger cooling, they are like a funnel to it. I'd call that a dilemma, your supercharger coolant temps would run a lot higher I would think.
Will it be a BIG dilemma or can it be overseen?
The frontlip is however okay so I can live with it. But if it is possible somehow I will use the N/A... more comments on the heat... ?
 
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CrossfireLTD
Also remember you may have to switch out the BCM. If you are looking for a working N/A spoiler the BCM on the SRT6 is programmed for a bit more spirited driving as the wing is static as opposed to the N/A wing which is deployed at speed. The BCM on the SRT6 will not know to deploy the wing at speed.

Can you program the BCM to do it correctly? Or is a manual switch better?
 
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by FUBU
Will it be a BIG dilemma or can it be overseen?
The frontlip is however okay so I can live with it. But if it is possible somehow I will use the N/A... more comments on the heat... ?
All the heat exchanger needs is air at a lower temperature than the coolant inside the HE. The cooler the air is and the more air that flows through it, the more heat removed. It's probably not a big deal to use an NA bumper, the flow area through the lower grilles is restricted anyway, you can probably just open up some more holes on the grilles; or you can cut a small slit in the plastic belly pan and make a scoop to funnel air into it.
 

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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 08:46 PM
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Here's the schematic from the spoiler, You can probably make up a circuit to control it.. but I'd be willing to say the SRT BCM doesn't support it, if there are spare pins on the SRT BCM you might be able to make it happen. I'd imagine the spoiler would go up/ down based on the direction the current flows through the motor and stop moving when power is not applied to the motor (when limit switch is active).

I'm not good enough with electrical to really help you with this, but you should be able to use an IC to control it based on wheel speed. For example, if pin 1 of the IC was the wheel speed voltage, pin 2 was the signal for power to send motor up.. you can make a program that would pretty much say "if voltage on pin 1 exceeds x Volts, activiate pin 2". Can anyone else (Rudy ) expand on this?
 
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by downwardspiral
Here's the schematic from the spoiler, You can probably make up a circuit to control it.. but I'd be willing to say the SRT BCM doesn't support it, if there are spare pins on the SRT BCM you might be able to make it happen. I'd imagine the spoiler would go up/ down based on the direction the current flows through the motor and stop moving when power is not applied to the motor (when limit switch is active).

I'm not good enough with electrical to really help you with this, but you should be able to use an IC to control it based on wheel speed. For example, if pin 1 of the IC was the wheel speed voltage, pin 2 was the signal for power to send motor up.. you can make a program that would pretty much say "if voltage on pin 1 exceeds x Volts, activiate pin 2". Can anyone else (Rudy ) expand on this?
I got this from a kind person at some of the tuners:

"The SRT has no signal cause there is no wiring. The wing itself is tied into the speed sensors and button in the center console. At the very least I would suggest getting the motor and all necessary wiring that ties into the center console switch.

As for the front lip, it will not impede flow to the HE."


So will anyone want to trade the rear wing of my SRT6 for all wiring, the button and the N/A wing?
 
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by FUBU
I got this from a kind person at some of the tuners:

"The SRT has no signal cause there is no wiring. The wing itself is tied into the speed sensors and button in the center console. At the very least I would suggest getting the motor and all necessary wiring that ties into the center console switch.

As for the front lip, it will not impede flow to the HE."


So will anyone want to trade the rear wing of my SRT6 for all wiring, the button and the N/A wing?
The NA wing wouldn't be speed sensitive without being tied to the BCM. You can run it on a dual position momentary switch, with one side supplying power to the motor in one direction and vice versa. You can just hold your finger on the button till the wing is up/down, but youll be able to burn out the motor without the limit switches.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by downwardspiral
The NA wing wouldn't be speed sensitive without being tied to the BCM. You can run it on a dual position momentary switch, with one side supplying power to the motor in one direction and vice versa. You can just hold your finger on the button till the wing is up/down, but youll be able to burn out the motor without the limit switches.
Seem to be a hell of a problem to do this.. or? All you that want the SRT wing, get on a solution
haha.. well a manual swith must be possible but a automatic one would be the best...

burning out the motor sounds awful.. what limit switches..? ;D hmm...
 
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by downwardspiral
The NA wing wouldn't be speed sensitive without being tied to the BCM. You can run it on a dual position momentary switch, with one side supplying power to the motor in one direction and vice versa. You can just hold your finger on the button till the wing is up/down, but youll be able to burn out the motor without the limit switches.
Remember in order for the N/A wing to work and look proper on your SRT6 you will need the deck/trunk lid from a N/A Crossfire. The N/A deck/trunk lid has the indented area where the spoiler will rest when it is not deployed and the underside has the area where the motor is located.

 
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Remember in order for the N/A wing to work and look proper on your SRT6 you will need the deck/trunk lid from a N/A Crossfire. The N/A deck/trunk lid has the indented area where the spoiler will rest when it is not deployed and the underside has the area where the motor is located.

So you are telling me that I have to change the whole trunk/liftgate? I have a donor car at the junkyard which is a N/A but they are charging me lots for the parts. I can imagine a whole liftgate will set me back $2000.. ridiculous..
 
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