Help "AimeeJ" fund
Originally Posted by Fogocruzado
Yes, amazingly gullible. This is an obvious scam.
As Gary pointed out, AmeeJ never asked us for anything. All she ever did was relate the reasons she had to get rid of her car.Gary was perceptive enough to pick up on the fact that a fellow forum member probably wasn't going to have a very good Christmas thanks to a financial decision she made a few months ago.
I don't know why somebody who's "middle class" should be automatically "exempt" from being eligible for charity when they need it. The question of who's more "deserving", is a decision that each individual who wants to help out must make.
There are allot of good charities out there to choose from, some better than others. But some of them seem to have overly exaggerated "administration fees" so you need to do your home work before you make any donations. Case in point:
Carrol Shelby has had a "Pet" Charity for kids ever since he had a heart transplant a while back. He says it's one of the highest priorities in his life.
Now even though he has collected several million dollars to date, he has only passed out less than a $10K to any needy kids.
If this is a scam, then that would make Gary the "Scam Artist", and since I spent a few hours talking with him in a hotel lobby at Woodward Ave, along with Dave "Sennaspirit", Lorne, and FP, I never got the impression he was a "Flim Flam Man". (I'm not so sure about Dave and FP though).
This is an open forum, and everybody is entitled to his or her opinions. But we are all adults, and we really don't need to be told that we are gullible just because we want to help. That's really not what this season is all about.
By the way, AimeeJ hasn't even PM'd me her address yet.
Personally, I haven't met anybody on this forum that I wouldn't help out if I could. (and I've met quit a few). But then I haven't met "Fogocruzado".
Last edited by +fireamx; Dec 23, 2007 at 09:50 AM.
Originally Posted by +fireamx
I hope I never become that cynical.
As Gary pointed out, AmeeJ never asked us for anything. All she ever did was relate the reasons she had to get rid of her car.
Gary was perceptive enough to pick up on the fact that a fellow forum member probably wasn't going to have a very good Christmas thanks to a financial decision she made a few months ago.
I don't know why somebody who's "middle class" should be automatically "exempt" from being eligible for charity when they need it. The question of who's more "deserving", is a decision that each individual who wants to help out must make.
There are allot of good charities out there to choose from, some better than others. But some of them seem to have overly exaggerated "administration fees" so you need to do your home work before you make any donations. Case in point:
Carrol Shelby has had a "Pet" Charity for kids ever since he had a heart transplant a while back. He says it's one of the highest priorities in his life.
Now even though he has collected several million dollars to date, he has only passed out less than a $10K to any needy kids. If this is a scam, then that would make Gary the "Scam Artist", and since I spent a few hours talking with him in a hotel lobby at Woodward Ave, along with Dave "Sennaspirit", Lorne, and FP, I never got the impression he was a "Flim Flam Man". (I'm not so sure about Dave and FP though).
This is an open forum, and everybody is entitled to his or her opinions. But we are all adults, and we really don't need to be told that we are gullible just because we want to help. That's really not what this season is all about.
By the way, AimeeJ hasn't even PM'd me her address yet.
Personally, I haven't met anybody on this forum that I wouldn't help out if I could. (and I've met quit a few). But then I haven't met "Fogocruzado".
As Gary pointed out, AmeeJ never asked us for anything. All she ever did was relate the reasons she had to get rid of her car.Gary was perceptive enough to pick up on the fact that a fellow forum member probably wasn't going to have a very good Christmas thanks to a financial decision she made a few months ago.
I don't know why somebody who's "middle class" should be automatically "exempt" from being eligible for charity when they need it. The question of who's more "deserving", is a decision that each individual who wants to help out must make.
There are allot of good charities out there to choose from, some better than others. But some of them seem to have overly exaggerated "administration fees" so you need to do your home work before you make any donations. Case in point:
Carrol Shelby has had a "Pet" Charity for kids ever since he had a heart transplant a while back. He says it's one of the highest priorities in his life.
Now even though he has collected several million dollars to date, he has only passed out less than a $10K to any needy kids. If this is a scam, then that would make Gary the "Scam Artist", and since I spent a few hours talking with him in a hotel lobby at Woodward Ave, along with Dave "Sennaspirit", Lorne, and FP, I never got the impression he was a "Flim Flam Man". (I'm not so sure about Dave and FP though).
This is an open forum, and everybody is entitled to his or her opinions. But we are all adults, and we really don't need to be told that we are gullible just because we want to help. That's really not what this season is all about.
By the way, AimeeJ hasn't even PM'd me her address yet.
Personally, I haven't met anybody on this forum that I wouldn't help out if I could. (and I've met quit a few). But then I haven't met "Fogocruzado".
BTW I don't need anyone looking out for me...I can make my own decisions without anyone calling out the people that can and want to help...
Originally Posted by Fogocruzado
So it's all about you feeling good about yourself? I bet AimeeJ has this same swindle running on a dozen different boards under a dozen different screen names, and a dozen different wannabe heroes just like you helping "her" out. Too bad all the money you're helping her raise won't be going to a worthy cause.

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Originally Posted by Fogocruzado
Yes, please do waste your time chasing your tails because the only member with half a brain warned you that someone is trying to scam you. 

Originally Posted by Fogocruzado
Yes, please do waste your time chasing your tails because the only member with half a brain warned you that someone is trying to scam you. 

It's my money to do with as I please. I decide the charity not Fogocruzado.
If this gets her one payment and enough to sell the car so be it. If she waste it on something else I don't give a f**k.
It is offered in good faith and I expect it to be used as such.
If this gets her one payment and enough to sell the car so be it. If she waste it on something else I don't give a f**k.
It is offered in good faith and I expect it to be used as such.
Originally Posted by InfernoRedXfire
Tell us about your xfire Fogocruzado.
And when you earn your wings for saving all of us from ourselves, please be sure to ring the bell loudly so that we'll all know about it and rejoice ...

Originally Posted by Fogocruzado
You just contradicted yourself - you "don't give a f**k" what she spends it on, but you expect it to be used in good faith, which would mean using it for the purpose for which it was provided.
Do you really not car that, by giving her money, you are rewarding her scam and enabling/encouraging her to go after more gullible people?
Do you really not car that, by giving her money, you are rewarding her scam and enabling/encouraging her to go after more gullible people?
Originally Posted by InfernoRedXfire
Tell us about your xfire Fogocruzado.
So this is the first thread you've participated in, and the only one as well. Who do you think you are coming into this forum family making accusations of scams and insulting members of this forum.
Forget about this being a worthwhile cause or not. Gary is a stand-up guy. I know him and your accusations are unfounded and insulting.
If you feel so strong about this, just don't give anything. No one is forcing anyone to give. We should give from our hearts especially this time of year. If you don't feel the need to give, don't. But please don't spread your poison here.
Perhaps the only argument is that she might have not used the her best judgment when she bought the car, but we don't know all of the circumstances given her case, and I'm not passing judgment on her. So those of us that are willing to help out do not have any strings attached. We just hope this helps her in resolving her situation.
Again, if its not in your heart to help, then please stay out of this thread.
Forget about this being a worthwhile cause or not. Gary is a stand-up guy. I know him and your accusations are unfounded and insulting.
If you feel so strong about this, just don't give anything. No one is forcing anyone to give. We should give from our hearts especially this time of year. If you don't feel the need to give, don't. But please don't spread your poison here.
Perhaps the only argument is that she might have not used the her best judgment when she bought the car, but we don't know all of the circumstances given her case, and I'm not passing judgment on her. So those of us that are willing to help out do not have any strings attached. We just hope this helps her in resolving her situation.
Again, if its not in your heart to help, then please stay out of this thread.
Last edited by FP; Dec 23, 2007 at 01:01 PM.
Originally Posted by +fireamx
I never got the impression he was a "Flim Flam Man". (I'm not so sure about Dave and FP though). 
I bet you a quarter Dave is insulted by this comment. AimeeJ , this is whishing you a merry christmas from fogocruzado.
http://www.scroogeyourself.com/?id=1253678955
Last edited by FP; Dec 23, 2007 at 01:20 PM.
I have been away today finishing up some Christmas shopping. It was nice to see while I have been gone I have received support from several for my efforts here and this is why a consider this like a family.
AimeeJ has a lot of reading to do when she logs back in here and hopefully she will soon.
AimeeJ has a lot of reading to do when she logs back in here and hopefully she will soon.
To Forocruzado
you joined the forum on 12/22 - you have on been on this thread.
I am siding with the other members, and after reading your replies - I will only state
you joined the forum on 12/22 - you have on been on this thread.
I am siding with the other members, and after reading your replies - I will only state
" What do you expect from a pig but a grunt"
Originally Posted by Fogocruzado
Sorry, if you want to hijack the thread, you're on your own.
Originally Posted by MI1XFIRE
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Is this someone we know under a different screen name? Please, look for identical IP.
Is this someone we know under a different screen name? Please, look for identical IP.
Another thread that gets mired in different directions. I don't know what all the "I've met someone" stuff means or what it brings to the post, but ...I have not met Fogocruzado but I met VALKRYDERGUY at Woodward last summer - great guy...not that this means much on this subject.
Notwithstanding all of fodder back and forth, I am suspicious of the AimeeJ story as well...didn't feel compelled to tell anyone about that though. There are some "red flags" to her story, but I'm not going to sh_t on someone's birthday cake (to provide her help) either.
Fogocruzado may have some valid questions - but his delivery is pretty un-productive.
I'm not sure what the point to my post is other than I too am suspicious, but the choice is to each of us as to act or not.
Notwithstanding all of fodder back and forth, I am suspicious of the AimeeJ story as well...didn't feel compelled to tell anyone about that though. There are some "red flags" to her story, but I'm not going to sh_t on someone's birthday cake (to provide her help) either.
Fogocruzado may have some valid questions - but his delivery is pretty un-productive.
I'm not sure what the point to my post is other than I too am suspicious, but the choice is to each of us as to act or not.


