Oh deer and no one wants to play
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I totally get where you're coming from. Having approached speeds that I didn't think were even possible in a production auto, I definitely relate.
However, (and I think this is where experience comes into play) aside from roadside surprises being the #1 killer (no pun intended), you have a litany of items to account for.
The short of it is this: On a private track rental (yes, I swear) I made a few warm-up laps to get the "lay of the land". Figuring the back straight was fairly smooth and level I decided to pin the throttle on the heat.
As I came out of the right-hander, it was throttle down and the 6.1L breathed to life. I was pulling some big numbers as I crossed through the halfway point when out of nowhere....
I was airborne.
How did this happen? -Well I went back over that same stretch later at a much lower speed and discovered the slightest dip in the road. Overall it was probably a 2-3" drop spanned over 50 or so feet; just enough to act like a ramp on the incline side.
Believe it or not, I didn't die and hope that sharing this with you lends some concept to the greater picture.
So to close my little lecture here, think of it like this... If you're not 100% certain that everything in the list below is in check, don't do it.
Folks who would miss your crazy azz
Bystanders (and those who would miss them)
Alignment
Wheel balance
Tire pressure
Suspension
Brakes (don't forget at those speeds you need at least 3x the normal runout to slow your azz down!)
Fauna
Weather conditions
Road conditions
Legality
Stay safe and keep her shiny side up, eh?
However, (and I think this is where experience comes into play) aside from roadside surprises being the #1 killer (no pun intended), you have a litany of items to account for.
The short of it is this: On a private track rental (yes, I swear) I made a few warm-up laps to get the "lay of the land". Figuring the back straight was fairly smooth and level I decided to pin the throttle on the heat.
As I came out of the right-hander, it was throttle down and the 6.1L breathed to life. I was pulling some big numbers as I crossed through the halfway point when out of nowhere....
I was airborne.
How did this happen? -Well I went back over that same stretch later at a much lower speed and discovered the slightest dip in the road. Overall it was probably a 2-3" drop spanned over 50 or so feet; just enough to act like a ramp on the incline side.
Believe it or not, I didn't die and hope that sharing this with you lends some concept to the greater picture.
So to close my little lecture here, think of it like this... If you're not 100% certain that everything in the list below is in check, don't do it.
Folks who would miss your crazy azz
Bystanders (and those who would miss them)
Alignment
Wheel balance
Tire pressure
Suspension
Brakes (don't forget at those speeds you need at least 3x the normal runout to slow your azz down!)
Fauna
Weather conditions
Road conditions
Legality
Stay safe and keep her shiny side up, eh?
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I really am not a disrespectful person I am trying hard but you're really being a dic&
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GROUP HUG !!
And I best step out at this point.. God knows I've been in enough of these..
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But I'll tell ya this: If you ever need help with your car, 180 will be the first on here to research for you, and point you in the right direction.
But be careful out there, we want to see you at the FALL Dragon!
(Back in my day, we' dsay that Dave is "talking to you like a dutch uncle" !)
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Hey Man...take it "easley"...
We ol' timers do "feel the need...the need for speed". We tend to express it a little differently and with a "cultured" enthusiasm. We know what our cars can do and seldom have a need to prove it to someone else, "on the street". The competition is not with other cars or their owners but with ourselves and how could we enhance our experience of ownership. We were young once and did all those crazy things with our cars. We want to ensure that you will live long enough to tell your grandchildren your road warrior adventures.
Most of us bought our Crossfires for its looks and the looks we get when we're driving it. We bought these cars to impress the "ladies" not as much the "guys". But when we "feel the need for speed"...this car has what it takes to please both worlds.
Slow down so you can see em' staring at cha'
We ol' timers do "feel the need...the need for speed". We tend to express it a little differently and with a "cultured" enthusiasm. We know what our cars can do and seldom have a need to prove it to someone else, "on the street". The competition is not with other cars or their owners but with ourselves and how could we enhance our experience of ownership. We were young once and did all those crazy things with our cars. We want to ensure that you will live long enough to tell your grandchildren your road warrior adventures.
Most of us bought our Crossfires for its looks and the looks we get when we're driving it. We bought these cars to impress the "ladies" not as much the "guys". But when we "feel the need for speed"...this car has what it takes to please both worlds.
Slow down so you can see em' staring at cha'
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^^^ There's a TON of satisfaction cruising past store front windows and seeing your car go by! Even at 52 I still like to feel her pull me back into the seat, but I don't consider her a hunter - slayer mobile. More like just cruise and if someone comes along and wants to see what she'll do.. I'll give them a little taste. Just enough to let them know she's a respectable player anyways.
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Well I guess you have had your first post deleted, welcome to the forum.
I do not sit idly by when someone represents a danger to the public like you do. You want people to race against you and express disappointment when they show some brains. Not saying anything is just like condoning it.
I have seen what speed can do on the road.
I do not sit idly by when someone represents a danger to the public like you do. You want people to race against you and express disappointment when they show some brains. Not saying anything is just like condoning it.
I have seen what speed can do on the road.
- When I was 18 I came upon a friends buddy lying in the road with the top half of his head crushed by the rear wheels of a truck that pulled out in front of his motor bike. He was way way over the speed limit and he had just sped past me. At first I thought it was oil ....
- My neighbors son was speeding on his bike in town, somebody pulled out in front of him, he went nearly a 100 feet in the air. The funeral was packed with his family and friends, he was 18.
- A buddy at work lost his only son in a single vehicle accident, speeding down a gravel road on his motor bike, he dropped it and broke his neck. He lost his only daughter and only grandchild a year or so later to a drunk who T-boned them. That's just tragic.
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Enjoy the car.. we all do a little more than we should in them.. unless they are buried up n a garage and snow right now.. LOL. Just try to keep in mind consequences of your actions..and make sure the need exceeds the potential.. Hate to see your enjoyment cut short out of a sudden really senseless urge..
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Well I guess you have had your first post deleted, welcome to the forum.
I do not sit idly by when someone represents a danger to the public like you do. You want people to race against you and express disappointment when they show some brains. Not saying anything is just like condoning it.
I have seen what speed can do on the road.
I do not sit idly by when someone represents a danger to the public like you do. You want people to race against you and express disappointment when they show some brains. Not saying anything is just like condoning it.
I have seen what speed can do on the road.
- When I was 18 I came upon a friends buddy lying in the road with the top half of his head crushed by the rear wheels of a truck that pulled out in front of his motor bike. He was way way over the speed limit and he had just sped past me. At first I thought it was oil ....
- My neighbors son was speeding on his bike in town, somebody pulled out in front of him, he went nearly a 100 feet in the air. The funeral was packed with his family and friends, he was 18.
- A buddy at work lost his only son in a single vehicle accident, speeding down a gravel road on his motor bike, he dropped it and broke his neck. He lost his only daughter and only grandchild a year or so later to a drunk who T-boned them. That's just tragic.
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The need for speed never goes away. As has been said be prepared to pay. I just read of a guy in some country in Europe that got fined a million bucks for speeding. Wow.
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Well I guess you have had your first post deleted, welcome to the forum.
I do not sit idly by when someone represents a danger to the public like you do. You want people to race against you and express disappointment when they show some brains. Not saying anything is just like condoning it.
I have seen what speed can do on the road.
I do not sit idly by when someone represents a danger to the public like you do. You want people to race against you and express disappointment when they show some brains. Not saying anything is just like condoning it.
I have seen what speed can do on the road.
- When I was 18 I came upon a friends buddy lying in the road with the top half of his head crushed by the rear wheels of a truck that pulled out in front of his motor bike. He was way way over the speed limit and he had just sped past me. At first I thought it was oil ....
- My neighbors son was speeding on his bike in town, somebody pulled out in front of him, he went nearly a 100 feet in the air. The funeral was packed with his family and friends, he was 18.
- A buddy at work lost his only son in a single vehicle accident, speeding down a gravel road on his motor bike, he dropped it and broke his neck. He lost his only daughter and only grandchild a year or so later to a drunk who T-boned them. That's just tragic.
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"hurry and get this driveway shoveled so we can get to the store before the next storm"..
See?
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All of this if you read between the lines is just because we as a group really do care about the safety of our co-enthusiasts (i.e you) and the safety of others. I realize as I read the previous posts we all sound like parents. Most are and we tend to be protective. I am sure it seems like we are being Di#$ heads but really we are not. Yes we scolded, but at the same time we all admitted we have been in the same position.
I myself have been blessed to still be alive because of my antics when I was about your age and I would not want to see anyone do the same thing. Enjoy your car and try to keep it under 90 and be safe. Looking forward to the Fall Dragon.
I myself have been blessed to still be alive because of my antics when I was about your age and I would not want to see anyone do the same thing. Enjoy your car and try to keep it under 90 and be safe. Looking forward to the Fall Dragon.
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All of this if you read between the lines is just because we as a group really do care about the safety of our co-enthusiasts (i.e you) and the safety of others. I realize as I read the previous posts we all sound like parents. Most are and we tend to be protective. I am sure it seems like we are being Di#$ heads but really we are not. Yes we scolded, but at the same time we all admitted we have been in the same position.
I myself have been blessed to still be alive because of my antics when I was about your age and I would not want to see anyone do the same thing. Enjoy your car and try to keep it under 90 and be safe. Looking forward to the Fall Dragon.
I myself have been blessed to still be alive because of my antics when I was about your age and I would not want to see anyone do the same thing. Enjoy your car and try to keep it under 90 and be safe. Looking forward to the Fall Dragon.
