Can this be true?
I know of someone who was put in jail till he paid a speeding ticket, but this?

 

Disturbing, isn't it? I wonder if our ex-officers will chime in here...

 

There are many abuses going on here that are hidden behind "the war on drugs".

We are losing our country, little by little and day by day. It is ironic that a DEMOCRAT is in the White House with this going on - I thought the democrats were "for the little guy" and the republicans were the "'rich bastards keeping the poor and middle class down""?

 

You are quite forgetful when it suits you.
What do the numbers 4,486 and 2,228 mean to you?
Hint; the letters I and A

 

I consented to a search once.. road block about 2 miles from my rural home. Rounded a corner one night and there were 4-5 cop cars with lights flashing and headlights pointing at me. Actually thought there had been a major wipeout on the corner and stopped about 50 yards from them.. was in my Miata and with the "surprise" forgot I had the car in 5th. Got waved up with a flashlight .. and stalled the car out. When I pulled up to him.. he wanted to know why I hesitated so long when signaled to pull up. Explained it to him and got the "mind if I search your car?" Thinking in my best interest with nothing to hide.. "go right ahead". Center console had a computer ram module anti static bag in it from some swapping and dealing computer parts previously.. "What's this for".. informed him what it was.. and shortly was "released". Realized later they could have torn my car apart with a "sucks to be you" .. your free to go. Never again do they get permission without a Judges signature for search.

 

It's a doubled edged sword.
Like MrM said, give em permission and they can tear your car apart, shrug their shoulders, and walk away.
Or you can say no, and they can get a drug sniffin dog involved, and scratch the he11 out of your ride.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

 

Yes, it is true. Read the Washington Post article on asset forfeiture. This has been getting worse and worse as the depression has continued. The same kinds of things happened in the 1930's. When the money is seized the owner is not charged, the MONEY is. County of. Nowhereibull vs $28,325 of cash. Since cash has no civil rights the police don't have to treat the cash with justice.

 

We have had no LEO's answer this, can they actually have done it themselves? If so what is their cut?

 

Dave I know you're just trying to stir the pot, but I think that was uncalled for.
I don't think any Leo on this forum needs to make a comment on this thread. (Unless they want to).
Maybe I've become too complacent with government corruption in our country, but it doesn't surprise me anymore.

 

I think that if this is true then we have come a long way to becoming a police state, here in Canada and the US. To think good men died for the freedoms we have and little by little the gains are being eroded away.

 

I fully agree with you Dave, If my Father-in-law was alive today (a WWII Vet) he would be mad as he!!. He's been gone now for nearly 10 years, and I miss him more than anything. But he used to talk about how so many of our freedoms were being taken away from us even back then.
As much as I respected and loved him, I'm glad he's not around to see what's been going on the last few years.

 

There for a while I was following a lot of the government bs on the net.. realized how pissed off I was getting over it ALL and quit. It's not like any of us as an individual are going to change anything. One day we will probably have our own version of ISIS here.. but to restore those freedoms they slowly choke out.

 

Bump for Doc to see and maybe respond, let's face it he was a first responder at one time.

 

I would gladly Dave...but I can't open the link for some reason....I will try it again. I can commit on INDIANA only. The drug sniffing dogs used today, do not rip your car apart and in fact just do a walk around. They will sit near a spot they think may contain drugs. Too many lawsuits with the other dogs....and rightly so. I will be back if I can open the link.

 

Well, that would be great if it were true. It isn't in Indiana. The only way money can be seized is within the confines of drugs, weapons, something that probable cause makes it possible. It's the same at airports. Again, this is a two edged sword with a border entry. Are you smuggling large sums of money out of or into your country to avoid taxes, or money laundering so to speak. But on a traffic stop, the drugs or probably cause to believe drugs and the money are connected. The money is counted, receipt given, and upon your charges being dropped, money is returned. Now, if it goes to court, that could be awhile...sometimes years. There may be rogue counties along the Canadian border doing this, but it isn't legal. Chicago's Cook County was dinged awhile back on a traffic speed trap they had going on.... Time will catch up to them if they are doing this. As for law enforcement in general, I'm am glad now that I have had a year to reflect. I enjoyed for the most part all of my 35 yrs, but the new generation, they need a big kick in the *** to learn to respect those who pay their salaries. They are quick to escalate a situation into an arrest. This will soon catch up to them as well. Just yesterday at an intersection in Ohio, I observed state police working an accident scene. I am no big man, in height anyway, but I saw 4 state troopers take 11/2 hrs to work the scene, not one was above my height, and one a female. I don't want to get into that political argument, but if they had a resistor, it would take everyone of them to make that arrest. If they would fight the guy, which they will not. Training today takes them to the belt, tazor, asp, baton, gun.... It happens just that quick. The troopers I grew up with, were big men. They didn't have a problem setting you straight. You really didn't want to mess with them. Our equal rights has created this mess. If you can't physically handle yourself, you should not wear the uniform...and I will leave it at that. Training is everything, and the training today just isn't in the public's best interest.
I guess I should add, agencies apply for grant money for the big ticket items. Drug money seized in a drug raid is usually not all kept my the arresting agency. Most goes to the feds and percentage given back to the arresting agency which goes into the equipment/training fund. Police budgets are managed by the city, county, or state of the jurisdiction you work for. Cicero for example, gets all it's money from the local govt. It can apply for grants for vehicles and equipment, but those grants are usually matching grants. So local govt has to buy in. The Feds are rogue today for sure, and until this country wakes up, and gets rid of the todays leadership, grab your *** and hang on. The fight just might be nearer than most think. Just my .02 from my 35 yrs of LEO work, and 11 yrs in city govt.

 

Back in the '70s the USA was one of the top countries to live in. Now we are 11th to 20th depending on the research and adjustment used. Canada is typically no lower than 4th.

And we Americans think we are so smart.

 

Thanks for the up-date on the drug sniffin dogs Doc.
But I got to say, it really doesn't make me worry about my car any less.
See video:

 

Hey, don't go giving people ideas to emigrate here. We are full up, no more room at the inn.

 

I don't think this could be correct. To start with 62,000 seizures amounting to 2.5 bil would mean each seizure would amount to over 40,000. Very few people I know carry 40 big ones on their person, hell, I don't usually carry 40 little ones. I have never heard of this in Pa.