Sagging headliner
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Sagging headliner
I see on the XF site that this (sagging headliner) is turning out to be a fairly common problem. Mine too, is sagging. What is considered a fair price by an upholstery shop to repair or replace the headliner. Mine is sagging right above my head on the drivers side.
Any input will be appreciated.
Jim
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Any input will be appreciated.
Jim
jpmlholian@aol.com
Re: Sagging headliner
I see on the XF site that this (sagging headliner) is turning out to be a fairly common problem. Mine too, is sagging. What is considered a fair price by an upholstery shop to repair or replace the headliner. Mine is sagging right above my head on the drivers side.
Any input will be appreciated.
Jim
jpmlholian@aol.com
Any input will be appreciated.
Jim
jpmlholian@aol.com
I used thumbtacks on the vertical face at the top of the hatch area and short self tapping screws over the passengers head and my head as thumb tacks come out too easily in those areas.
Re: Sagging headliner
I see on the XF site that this (sagging headliner) is turning out to be a fairly common problem. Mine too, is sagging. What is considered a fair price by an upholstery shop to repair or replace the headliner. Mine is sagging right above my head on the drivers side.
Any input will be appreciated.
Jim
jpmlholian@aol.com
Any input will be appreciated.
Jim
jpmlholian@aol.com
If you DIY, maybe $50 in materials, depending on quality of new covering. Biggest effort is getting the old adhesive completely removed from support backing.
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Re: Sagging headliner
I have to do this again as I obviously did not use enough glue as both areas toward the windows above the driver and passenger heads has dropped again. In these areas the material is stretched the most and slowly pulled away from the headliner.
I now find I should have used 3M Headliner and Fabric Adhesive and not 3M Super 77.
Live and learn.
I now find I should have used 3M Headliner and Fabric Adhesive and not 3M Super 77.
Live and learn.
Last edited by onehundred80; 05-15-2021 at 11:50 AM.
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Good luck with your headliner re-work. It really is a pain just taking it out & back in!!
Last edited by dedwards0323; 05-13-2021 at 08:35 PM.
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While I didn't actually replace the headliner material in my Coupe (just the removal & installation of the headliner itself), the shop I used in town took considerable pains to make sure there was sufficient material to wrap over all the edges of the support board. They claimed that was the only way to keep the headliner material from slipping out & "sagging" along the edges. (Note: They showed me how the OEM headliner material barely went to the edge of the support board.) Probably kept them from having to "stretch" the material much, as you've reference in your comments above. And if they didn't have to create tension from stretching, maybe that's how they achieve some success with the headliners they re-cover. Just guessing!! My $0.02 - FWIW.
Good luck with your headliner re-work. It really is a pain just taking it out & back in!!
Good luck with your headliner re-work. It really is a pain just taking it out & back in!!
I may have to soften the glue areas with contact cement cleaner or acetone.
Otherwise the whole cloth liner will have to come off.
It looked a good job when I first did it. 🙄
I sagged more than it when I felt it on my head again.
Last edited by onehundred80; 05-15-2021 at 11:48 AM.
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I see now that what I used is not recommended for foam backed material.
It was recommended in some posts on this forum though.
Knowing what I know now I would not recommend the 3M Super 77.
3M makes the stuff that should be used.
3M Headliner and Fabric Adhesive
Edit
I used Permatex Heavy Duty Spray Adhesive when it came down to doing the job as it was easier to find. It is recommended for headliners on the cans label, we will see how it does over time. Once in place you can hardly move the material so you basically have just one go at material placement.
It was recommended in some posts on this forum though.
Knowing what I know now I would not recommend the 3M Super 77.
3M makes the stuff that should be used.
3M Headliner and Fabric Adhesive
Edit
I used Permatex Heavy Duty Spray Adhesive when it came down to doing the job as it was easier to find. It is recommended for headliners on the cans label, we will see how it does over time. Once in place you can hardly move the material so you basically have just one go at material placement.
Last edited by onehundred80; 05-21-2021 at 06:58 PM.
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Re: Sagging headliner
Before I had to change the headliner in my crossfire last Fall, I got these 2 different products highly recommended by 2 local headliner specialist . . . one of them was the Owner where I bought the new material an the other was the Owner of another place where the new material was glued . He told me he prefer to work with the Pro Form PF 528
3M™ Super Trim Adhesive, 08090, 19 oz. (538.6 g) (3mcanada.ca)
PRO FORM - Products (proformproducts.com)
Daniel
3M™ Super Trim Adhesive, 08090, 19 oz. (538.6 g) (3mcanada.ca)
PRO FORM - Products (proformproducts.com)
Daniel
Last edited by LagDan; 05-17-2021 at 12:41 PM.
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Mine was awful. Sagging to the point it was obstructing rear view. I pulled it myself, took it to a local upholstery shop, and 3 days later picked it up. 150$ total to recover. Getting it in/out is tricky, but doable. Seats all the way back/down, steering wheel retracted and a cup or two of patience. An extra hand doesn't hurt either.
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I've done 3 and it's not too bad just remove from pass side with seat all the way back and tilt it down into front foot well. then once out take material off then scrape off old foam remaining and prep with glue and reset new material. Just make sure to leave 2-3 inches extra on all edges for good fit. Material w/foam backing aprox $40 on ebay .....can of spray adhesive 3m fabric specific for purpose aprox $12.........2 hrs of work and done. No special skills required. I've done mine and 2 other xfire owners and they all turned out very good.
Re: Sagging headliner
I've done 3 and it's not too bad just remove from pass side with seat all the way back and tilt it down into front foot well. then once out take material off then scrape off old foam remaining and prep with glue and reset new material. Just make sure to leave 2-3 inches extra on all edges for good fit. Material w/foam backing aprox $40 on ebay .....can of spray adhesive 3m fabric specific for purpose aprox $12.........2 hrs of work and done. No special skills required. I've done mine and 2 other xfire owners and they all turned out very good.
Do not use 3M Super 77 Adhesive, it failed on my car after 18 months.
Last edited by onehundred80; 05-24-2021 at 05:22 PM.
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