Read about it in July's MotorTrend Magazine. 425 ponies. Where can I order one......now!

 

awesome... sounds like they're going a little overboard with the SRT line, though. The SRT-10 is nice, but when they brought out the SRT-4 I knew something bad was going on, then they jump it up to the Crossfire SRT-6, now the SRT-8? hrmm...

Chrysler/Dodge is really trying to get into the performance world these days. Really trying to change their image.

 

Overboard? We can't make the SRT10 fast enough to keep them on the lots. SRT4 is a huge hit, yet another car that hasn't needed ANY incentives to move off the floor. We don't even get employee pricing on them.

"trying to get into the performance world" ?!? maybe if you were older you wouldn't be so dumb to the fact they have been leading the performance world for ages. Mopar mean anything to you? The hemi isn't a new motor either. It has some updated technology, but its not something they just made up over night.

The fact is people are willing to pay extra cost to have all the goodies added to the vehicle. Faster, harder, better looking. Why go aftermarket and void warranties, when you can get it from the dealer. No more down time, no more issues. I think its smart.

 

I'd beg to differ, but there would be no point.

Suffice it to say, one motor patent and one sports car are not sufficient evidence to claim that the Chrysler group has been "leading the performance world for ages." This new surge in the SRT brand is suspect to the contrary. They wouldn't be trying to catch up if they weren't behind. I also see it as selling out a good performance line by putting a turbocharger and a badge on the back of a Neon. That's pretty disgusting.

 

Huh? That's kinda like saying human beings are trying to get into the breathing world these days. You must be too young to understand the Chrysler / Dodge muscle car roots.

 

Fastest production vehicle under 20k. Performance OEM upgrades sold through Mopar. Sounds like a hell of a deal to me. It is the "affordable race car" for those who can't afford a viper, etc.

When you say selling out, you mean they are actually "selling the products" because they have a ton of buyers! Go drive one. You'll change your opinion.

As for the earlier years, it isn't just one motor, its a design that continues to push the further ahead in the racing world. Go to a drag event and tell me what kind of cars / motors are pulling all those 6 second passes.

Isn't your acura.

 

So true.. I'm only 24 and I know how bad *** cars were back in the day. One of my clients has a mint 70 cuda. Yum.

 

As I said... no point in attempting to differ.

 

At what point in your life do you look back at everything you say and realize that people think you are wrong, not because they all hate you, but because you are wrong?

From what I have seen, you tend to make blanket statements about things you know very little about. Just because you can spell the words and peck them out on your keyboard doesn't make you a professional. Not that you need to be, but perhaps you can do a little more research before banging the keyboard another round.

 

You're the one making blanket statements. I said that Chrysler seems to be in the mood to change its image to a more sporty side of the market.

You claimed that the Dodge group has been some worldwide performance car expert for ages. When I think performance, Dodge does not instantly come to mind. Have you heard of Ferrari, Lamborghini? Koenigsegg? Spyker? Bugatti?
Dodge just doesn't seem to fit into that category for me. Sorry. The hemispherical head design is quite good. But my point was that the SRT badge used to be exclusive and now they're putting it on Dodge Neons and every Chrysler car... That was my point. I was saying nothing of Dodge's history. I was making a point about their change in image and priorities and marketting.

 

Perhaps you forgot about the viper? Ever heard of Lemans or the Team Orica Viper?

The crossfire is the First and Only car to get the SRT badge on a "Chrysler" product.

The "hemi" motor has nothing to do with the SRT lineup anyway. SRT10 comes w/ a 10cyl viper motor, the SRT4 has a turbocharged 2.4 4cyl motor. The SRT6 will come with a Mercedes AMG 6cyl supercharged motor.

Changing image? Dodge has been known for taking prototype car show vehicles and turning them into production. Looks like they have kept there word so far. How is this different from before?

A few other cars that the company has under there hats, SLR Mercedes, Tamahawk Viper Bike, and the ME412. Do some homework little man, they aren't doing anything but making exciting products and pulling fast ahead of the competition.

 

Well, seeing as how Koenigsegg, Spkyer, and Lambo are realtively new to the performance car market, I see your statement as.........stupid. Add to it that Bugatti has been pretty much dead for years until the new EB Veyron, I see your statement as.......very stupid. Did you know the Racing circuits outlawed the Hemi engine in the 70's b/c it was too powerful?!?!? How can an engine be too powerful for racing?!?!
Hey BobbaFettM, can I use that avatar you had? James really types before thinking doesn't he?

 

Yeah, using a Mercedes engine and then calling it an SRT model. That really goes to show the performance of Dodge HEMI engines. Plus I mentioned the SRT-10 (and thus I thought the Viper).

I never said anything about Dodge's racing past, or the design of its engines. What I said was that Chrysler seems to be trying to change it's mainstream image from that of your grandmother's sedan to a sports performance car with youth appeal and a low base price. You guys apparently took that negatively. They've changed from competing with Buick, Lincoln, and Cadillac to competing with Acura, Infiniti, and BMW

But I'm going to be gone for a week, so don't waste your breath responding, it won't be seen. Have fun without me, I'm sure you will.

 

ok this post is for when you get back. How can you say the NEon SRT-4 is bad? The regular neon is bad. The SRT-4 is amazing. It's so cheap and gives people speed at low cost. What's wrong with Chrysler putting out performance cars like Mercedes, Audi, and BMW? I know those companies are really crappy when it comes to making cars but maybe Chrysler will be different :roll: Every respectable car manufacturer has a performance division and Dodge was one of the first. Hemi Cuda ring a bell?

 

[Unpopular opinion alert.]

I guess I can sort of see where James is coming from. I've got a few years on me... just enough of 'em that, when someone says "Chrysler," I can't help having words like "Cordoba," "Le Baron" and "K Car" come to mind.

Chrysler's put out some great cars, but they've also had quite a few clunkers in their time -- which I'm sure is why they now have all the commercials designed to remind you of a time long before that, when people more closely associated Chrysler with performance.

That said, it sure looks like they're a long way from the K Car these days. I guess what I'm saying is that, well...

I agree with James. Whew. I think I said that quietly enough that nobody heard it.

It looks to me like they've done a lot of work to change their image, and it's paying off in some really cool cars coming out of Chrysler lately.

 

I serve to please...

 

What was that Trick - I don't think anybody heard you :lol: :lol: :wink:

 

You forgot:

"Fine Corinthian Leather"!!!!!

But lets not forget that the LeBarons and K-Cars kept them afloat long enough to let them pay off the government loans. And you have to give them credit in the simple fact that they actually did pay back those loans....

Lee Iacocca was one of my heroes!!!!

And Trick, it doesn't matter how small a font you use, WE ALL HEARD YOU!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA

 

As a teenager growing up in So. Cal. in the mid '60s and cutting my teeth on Drag racing at "Lions Dragstrip" in Willington, Ca. If you didn't have a Chrysler (wedge or Hemi) under your hood you were probably not going to be in a final round. MOPAR was king for many years. MOPAR is also what made Richard Petty the "King" of NASCAR.

The late '70s and '80s were not good years for Chrysler... But they are not good years for any American car manufacturers. The EPA standards that came out at that time almost killed the American car. Low compression carberated engines were terrible. Thank God for EFI and advanced ECU systems that are responsible for putting power back under our hoods.

 

8) That sure brings back memories. Seems to me that Wednesday Nights were the big nights to be at Lions to Drag Race your own car. I belonged to a Mopar Club (actually Road Runner Club) back then - and actually raced down the Drag strip many times. I also remember really aggravating a lot of guys when I would beat them :!: