It took 150 shot, and other things for that one guy to rip off a high 12. So yes with all the listed above and a 150 direct port or wet shot, the crossfire could run low 13's, even high 12's. But for how long is the question? But off the bottle it is lucky to be a low 14 second car. And the STi still handles better, and that is assuming I stay stock. Which it won't be for long. When I am done I should be running low-mid 12's at around 110-112, with no nitrous. If I added nitrous to the amount that the crossfire needs to hang with a stock STi, the STi would be with ease an 11 second car.

With out some heavy modifications or n02 the regular crossfire is leagues away from the STi in terms of performance. Granted if you do beat on in a drag race I do think it is possible. Bad drivers still lose races. I beat an sti with my crossfire, he messed up the launch hit the rev limiter twice and missed two gears and I was only about a half a car ahead, and I hit each shift perfectly. I posted it on the board.

 

BULLSEYE, you're right about everything except "stock" handling, according to Road & Tracks Road Test Summary. The STi pulls an .88g on the skid pad,runs 68.4 mph thru the slalom vs the XF Limited that comes in with a .89g and a 69.6 mph slalom.
I know I'm "splitting hairs" here, but hey...we're bench racing, right?
Actually the whole thing is a moot point once you start modifying things anyway. Then it turns into "who can spend the most money, WINS!" I won't even go there, too many variables. Good Luck with what ever you do, I'm sure you'll have a blast with it.

 

sti won't handle that much better and suffers from pretty shitty understeer. i said this before, my friend has a wrx with a complete sti v.7 suspension and it has a terrible ride and horrible understeer. its fast in the wet though.

 

I guess next you will say that the crossfire handles better than the E46 M3 also. Slalom times and G's is not what determines the better handler. The M3 only pulls .87 according to some mags, but the M3 can run circles around the crossfire in a road course, and so can the STi. The STi along with the EVO is rated amongst the top ten handling cars in the world. The M3 is also on there. The crossfire however is not, srt-6 or not.

 

you ever run your crossfire against an sti in a road course?

 

BULLSEYE, I was just quoting #s. If you honestly think that the # of gs a car can pull on a skidpad, or how fast it can go thru a slalom is not a "definitive" way to determine how well a car handles, then I guess we have different points of view. I am totally unfamiliar with the M3, but if you say it only pulls .87g but can still run rings around a XF on a road course, I would have to conclude that's more your opinion than actual fact. (I wish HDDP would jump in here and pass along some of his words of wisdom) After all, a 500 hp Ford GT pulls .99g and still goes thru the slalom 1/10 of a mph slower than a 215 hp XF, but I bet it would run rings around the XF on a road course, so does that mean it's a better handler than the XF?
Like it or not, the XF is a damned good handling car. Since there are a multitude of cars out there that I will never have the opportunity, and or the inclination to ever test drive personally, The next best thing is to "read" about it in a Nationally accredited Automotive Magazine. If they think handling goes hand-in-hand with skidpad and slalom #s then it's OK by me.

 

if your talking about road courses, a slalom speed is probably the best way to determine handling. the m3 always gets high marks on handling for "feel", but feel doesn't mean a damn thing with speed.

 

There is a very curvy (like a snake) entrance ramp where I live. When you get the crossfire to go through there at 90 mph, I will say the crossfire is the better handler, because I got my '01 M3 to go through there at that speed stock. The best I could do until the tires started to break loose on the crossfire was right around 68 mph. The car felt just taxed. I have already hit 75 mph through that road section in my STi already. And it has alot more to go. I'm sorry while the crossfire is nimble. The STi is the better handler.

I would love to see a crossfire beat an STi in a road course given the drivers were equal.

 

so you are saying your m3 took a turn 22 mph faster? really?? wow, was that on your winter tire setup with the crossfire, because 22 mph is beyond ridiculous.

 

Yes that is exactly what I am saying, but it is a series of turns, in and out in and out, I could of maybe pushed the crossfire to the 75 range but don't exactly feel like becoming friends with a ditch and later meet his friends the trees. With the M3 I went in at just around 90 and came out at 90. And even at 68 mph that is still good for these turns, the limit is 25 mph. And my civic Si with pretty good rubber couldn't do any more than 55ish.

On my not speed rated winter rubber you can't take anything fast, if you do you can feel the side wall buckle. Drive an actual STi on a daily basis and not some poser wishing he had one. Then come talk to me.

The Crossfire is definitely not as sure footed as the M3. If the crossfire handles so well, tell me why the SRT-6 placed dead last in the road course against the corvette, boxter s, slk350? Even though the SRT-6 pulled more G's and Slalomed faster than some of them, and was the second fastest in the 1/4mi, so power was not an issue.
Just to shows you slalom or g's have nothing to do with road course ability. Its for mag boys like you. They got a '05 mustang GT with the saleen suspension kit to slalom at over 70 mph I guess its a better handler than the M3, STi, and Crossfire, with a solid rear axle. LOL

The crossfire is a good handler, but better than the STi or M3, I think not.

 

I auto X'ed my crossfire and the only cars I was set out to beat were RX8 and wrx (imprezza) . Yes its not the sti but it has more hp is faster and all-wheel drive. I did beat the wrx and all the RX8 (5-6 of em) this was my first time out and most of these guys are regulars. There was a guy on here before (older guy) and he is tearing up D-stock (our class) in his area. I think the Xfire handles great. Yes there are better cars but I think a six speed spec'ed 400+ rwhp crossfire is up there too.