Check engine light came up today
Re: Check engine light came up today
If you have a light, go by one of the many national chains like autozone ect. and have them read the codes for free. That should give you a basic understanding of where to look. Keep in mind they use fairly basic scan tools and are not diagnostic experts by any means. At least from that you will have an idea.
I have dealt with many dealers and shops that have little care for this car. It's not a Chrysler once you get beyond the sheet metal and badges and Mercedes dealers have been locked out of the ECU with Chrysler's software access protocol. Some Mercedes dealers might want to help and if you find one be thankful.
The good part is that parts are widely available and if you look in the right spots you can avoid paying dealer price (which by the way is really high now that Daimler no longer has an interest in Chrysler). For example I just replaced front calipers at 170,000 miles: Chrysler wanted $580 each, Mercedes $258 each, and remanufactured units were $89 each. That is huge spread!
I have dealt with many dealers and shops that have little care for this car. It's not a Chrysler once you get beyond the sheet metal and badges and Mercedes dealers have been locked out of the ECU with Chrysler's software access protocol. Some Mercedes dealers might want to help and if you find one be thankful.
The good part is that parts are widely available and if you look in the right spots you can avoid paying dealer price (which by the way is really high now that Daimler no longer has an interest in Chrysler). For example I just replaced front calipers at 170,000 miles: Chrysler wanted $580 each, Mercedes $258 each, and remanufactured units were $89 each. That is huge spread!
Re: Check engine light came up today
If you have a light, go by one of the many national chains like autozone ect. and have them read the codes for free. That should give you a basic understanding of where to look. Keep in mind they use fairly basic scan tools and are not diagnostic experts by any means. At least from that you will have an idea.
I have dealt with many dealers and shops that have little care for this car. It's not a Chrysler once you get beyond the sheet metal and badges and Mercedes dealers have been locked out of the ECU with Chrysler's software access protocol. Some Mercedes dealers might want to help and if you find one be thankful.
The good part is that parts are widely available and if you look in the right spots you can avoid paying dealer price (which by the way is really high now that Daimler no longer has an interest in Chrysler). For example I just replaced front calipers at 170,000 miles: Chrysler wanted $580 each, Mercedes $258 each, and remanufactured units were $89 each. That is huge spread!
I have dealt with many dealers and shops that have little care for this car. It's not a Chrysler once you get beyond the sheet metal and badges and Mercedes dealers have been locked out of the ECU with Chrysler's software access protocol. Some Mercedes dealers might want to help and if you find one be thankful.
The good part is that parts are widely available and if you look in the right spots you can avoid paying dealer price (which by the way is really high now that Daimler no longer has an interest in Chrysler). For example I just replaced front calipers at 170,000 miles: Chrysler wanted $580 each, Mercedes $258 each, and remanufactured units were $89 each. That is huge spread!
Re: Check engine light came up today
Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) List
Re: Check engine light came up today
Once you know the code that caused the check engine light to go on you can find the code and what it means in the list in the thread link below
Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) List
Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) List
where can I get this done best and is this bad? Can I still drive my car in a 1 miles range?
Re: Check engine light came up today
If you have a light, go by one of the many national chains like autozone ect. 8and have them read the codes for free. That should give you a basic understanding of where to look. Keep in mind they use fairly basic scan tools and are not diagnostic experts by any means. At least from that you will have an idea.
I have dealt with many dealers and shops that have little care for this car. It's not a Chrysler once you get beyond the sheet metal and badges and Mercedes dealers have been locked out of the ECU with Chrysler's software access protocol. Some Mercedes dealers might want to help and if you find one be thankful.
The good part is that parts are widely available and if you look in the right spots you can avoid paying dealer price (which by the way is really high now that Daimler no longer has an interest in Chrysler). For example I just replaced front calipers at 170,000 miles: Chrysler wanted $580 each, Mercedes $258 each, and remanufactured units were $89 each. That is huge spread!
I have dealt with many dealers and shops that have little care for this car. It's not a Chrysler once you get beyond the sheet metal and badges and Mercedes dealers have been locked out of the ECU with Chrysler's software access protocol. Some Mercedes dealers might want to help and if you find one be thankful.
The good part is that parts are widely available and if you look in the right spots you can avoid paying dealer price (which by the way is really high now that Daimler no longer has an interest in Chrysler). For example I just replaced front calipers at 170,000 miles: Chrysler wanted $580 each, Mercedes $258 each, and remanufactured units were $89 each. That is huge spread!
where can I get this done best and is this bad? Can I still drive my car in a 1 miles range?
Re: Check engine light came up today
Could be a dirty/faulty MAF sensor.
At any rate, the PTCM has detected a lean fuel condition, and is unhappy.
Try this :
Disconnect the negative ( black ) battery cable ( 10mm open end wrench ).
Wait 10 minutes, connect it back up.
See if the CEL clears, it may not come back.
If so, then :
1. find the vacuum leak ( lots of ways to do that, use search )
2. clean the MAF sensor ( use search )
3. replace the MAF sensor.
You should be able to drive short distances, but don't take my word on that.
Find a good independent MB type shop that doesn't mind working on a Crossfire.
Re: Check engine light came up today
I found this using plain old SEARCH.
Re: Check engine light came up today
Most LIKELY cause is a vacuum leak somewhere.
Could be a dirty/faulty MAF sensor.
At any rate, the PTCM has detected a lean fuel condition, and is unhappy.
Try this :
Disconnect the negative ( black ) battery cable ( 10mm open end wrench ).
Wait 10 minutes, connect it back up.
See if the CEL clears, it may not come back.
If so, then :
1. find the vacuum leak ( lots of ways to do that, use search )
2. clean the MAF sensor ( use search )
3. replace the MAF sensor.
You should be able to drive short distances, but don't take my word on that.
Find a good independent MB type shop that doesn't mind working on a Crossfire.
Could be a dirty/faulty MAF sensor.
At any rate, the PTCM has detected a lean fuel condition, and is unhappy.
Try this :
Disconnect the negative ( black ) battery cable ( 10mm open end wrench ).
Wait 10 minutes, connect it back up.
See if the CEL clears, it may not come back.
If so, then :
1. find the vacuum leak ( lots of ways to do that, use search )
2. clean the MAF sensor ( use search )
3. replace the MAF sensor.
You should be able to drive short distances, but don't take my word on that.
Find a good independent MB type shop that doesn't mind working on a Crossfire.
I have also a current problem with my alarm what comes up often outside for no reason. My top isn't opening anymore and my driverside door won't lock anymore with the remote.
Might all those be related to the faulty module?
Re: Check engine light came up today
Read this post, I think it may have your solution, which is to clean the MAF sensor.
I found this using plain old SEARCH.
I found this using plain old SEARCH.
I also read to check the fuel filter and the oil cap. But since I changed oil 6 month ago and haven't touched it since I dont think its the cap. But I will check it as well.
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Re: Check engine light came up today
This owner had the same issue. Here is what he found.
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Figured I'd let others know what the problem was. Engine running lean and throwing the P0171 & P0174 codes due to small air leak. Only at idle would this symptoms appear. Ran great other wise. Searched and searched for leak using starter fluid on vacuum lines - found nothing. MAF sensor replacement didn't affect it. This rough engine at idle started soon after the oil change. Never put the two together.
On the oil cap is two triangles that one is to line up, I assume to indicate the cap is sufficiently tight. Well that was the issue. The triangles were lined up perfect. Problem was is the seal under the cap wasn't fulling mating with the surface (all the time) and was the source of the small air leak. The engine pulls a vacuum and was getting a little air from the oil cap. Had I tighten it like normal and not lined the triangles up, I would have never had then lean codes/engine running rough.
Local shop pressurized the engine via the intake with smoke of some sort and saw it coming out of the oil cap area. A new oil cap solved the problem. go figure.....
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Figured I'd let others know what the problem was. Engine running lean and throwing the P0171 & P0174 codes due to small air leak. Only at idle would this symptoms appear. Ran great other wise. Searched and searched for leak using starter fluid on vacuum lines - found nothing. MAF sensor replacement didn't affect it. This rough engine at idle started soon after the oil change. Never put the two together.
On the oil cap is two triangles that one is to line up, I assume to indicate the cap is sufficiently tight. Well that was the issue. The triangles were lined up perfect. Problem was is the seal under the cap wasn't fulling mating with the surface (all the time) and was the source of the small air leak. The engine pulls a vacuum and was getting a little air from the oil cap. Had I tighten it like normal and not lined the triangles up, I would have never had then lean codes/engine running rough.
Local shop pressurized the engine via the intake with smoke of some sort and saw it coming out of the oil cap area. A new oil cap solved the problem. go figure.....
Re: Check engine light came up today
This owner had the same issue. Here is what he found.
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Default Re: code P0171 and P0174
Problem Solved
Figured I'd let others know what the problem was. Engine running lean and throwing the P0171 & P0174 codes due to small air leak. Only at idle would this symptoms appear. Ran great other wise. Searched and searched for leak using starter fluid on vacuum lines - found nothing. MAF sensor replacement didn't affect it. This rough engine at idle started soon after the oil change. Never put the two together.
On the oil cap is two triangles that one is to line up, I assume to indicate the cap is sufficiently tight. Well that was the issue. The triangles were lined up perfect. Problem was is the seal under the cap wasn't fulling mating with the surface (all the time) and was the source of the small air leak. The engine pulls a vacuum and was getting a little air from the oil cap. Had I tighten it like normal and not lined the triangles up, I would have never had then lean codes/engine running rough.
Local shop pressurized the engine via the intake with smoke of some sort and saw it coming out of the oil cap area. A new oil cap solved the problem. go figure.....
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Default Re: code P0171 and P0174
Problem Solved
Figured I'd let others know what the problem was. Engine running lean and throwing the P0171 & P0174 codes due to small air leak. Only at idle would this symptoms appear. Ran great other wise. Searched and searched for leak using starter fluid on vacuum lines - found nothing. MAF sensor replacement didn't affect it. This rough engine at idle started soon after the oil change. Never put the two together.
On the oil cap is two triangles that one is to line up, I assume to indicate the cap is sufficiently tight. Well that was the issue. The triangles were lined up perfect. Problem was is the seal under the cap wasn't fulling mating with the surface (all the time) and was the source of the small air leak. The engine pulls a vacuum and was getting a little air from the oil cap. Had I tighten it like normal and not lined the triangles up, I would have never had then lean codes/engine running rough.
Local shop pressurized the engine via the intake with smoke of some sort and saw it coming out of the oil cap area. A new oil cap solved the problem. go figure.....
Re: Check engine light came up today
Thx for the tips. I researched as well. I just don't know where MAV sensor in my Xfire sits. I will research that online. If I can't make it myself I have to find a MB shop who can help . Hopefully. Chrysler people we can forget.
I have also a current problem with my alarm what comes up often outside for no reason. My top isn't opening anymore and my driverside door won't lock anymore with the remote.
Might all those be related to the faulty module?
I have also a current problem with my alarm what comes up often outside for no reason. My top isn't opening anymore and my driverside door won't lock anymore with the remote.
Might all those be related to the faulty module?
I chased an alarm problem for months with random triggers and while many here on the forum were calling for replacing alarm sirens, it turned out to be the switch in the glove box that was tripping the system when it got too hot or too cold.
Re: Check engine light came up today
Crazy as it might seem, yes they can be related. The door lock system is vacuum operated. You will want to look in the passenger side of the trunk for signs of water. history of a water leak from the wing panel is known and on most crossfires it appears the drain plugs were left in the bottom of the trunk leaving no place for the water to go. It can take out the control module for the alarm and door lock system and cause issues. Only the Chrysler dealers system can read the alarm trigger codes (I have yet to see a scanner system gain access to that section of the system).
I chased an alarm problem for months with random triggers and while many here on the forum were calling for replacing alarm sirens, it turned out to be the switch in the glove box that was tripping the system when it got too hot or too cold.
I chased an alarm problem for months with random triggers and while many here on the forum were calling for replacing alarm sirens, it turned out to be the switch in the glove box that was tripping the system when it got too hot or too cold.
Re: Check engine light came up today
About the middle of winter, I'll wish I were there to do it for you. No matter what, you never have to shovel sunshine, be grateful.
Re: Check engine light came up today
Thx, I wish you were here as well. Today I will check with a MB shop to see what he can do.
Re: Check engine light came up today
Crazy as it might seem, yes they can be related. The door lock system is vacuum operated. You will want to look in the passenger side of the trunk for signs of water. history of a water leak from the wing panel is known and on most crossfires it appears the drain plugs were left in the bottom of the trunk leaving no place for the water to go. It can take out the control module for the alarm and door lock system and cause issues. Only the Chrysler dealers system can read the alarm trigger codes (I have yet to see a scanner system gain access to that section of the system).
I chased an alarm problem for months with random triggers and while many here on the forum were calling for replacing alarm sirens, it turned out to be the switch in the glove box that was tripping the system when it got too hot or too cold.
I chased an alarm problem for months with random triggers and while many here on the forum were calling for replacing alarm sirens, it turned out to be the switch in the glove box that was tripping the system when it got too hot or too cold.
Re: Check engine light came up today
Thx for the tips. I researched as well. I just don't know where MAV sensor in my Xfire sits. I will research that online. If I can't make it myself I have to find a MB shop who can help . Hopefully. Chrysler people we can forget.
I have also a current problem with my alarm what comes up often outside for no reason. My top isn't opening anymore and my driverside door won't lock anymore with the remote.
Might all those be related to the faulty module?
I have also a current problem with my alarm what comes up often outside for no reason. My top isn't opening anymore and my driverside door won't lock anymore with the remote.
Might all those be related to the faulty module?
Any ideas on my alarm randomly going on, top not closing and driver door only locking with remote?
Re: Check engine light came up today
Most LIKELY cause is a vacuum leak somewhere.
Could be a dirty/faulty MAF sensor.
At any rate, the PTCM has detected a lean fuel condition, and is unhappy.
Try this :
Disconnect the negative ( black ) battery cable ( 10mm open end wrench ).
Wait 10 minutes, connect it back up.
See if the CEL clears, it may not come back.
If so, then :
1. find the vacuum leak ( lots of ways to do that, use search )
2. clean the MAF sensor ( use search )
3. replace the MAF sensor.
You should be able to drive short distances, but don't take my word on that.
Find a good independent MB type shop that doesn't mind working on a Crossfire.
Could be a dirty/faulty MAF sensor.
At any rate, the PTCM has detected a lean fuel condition, and is unhappy.
Try this :
Disconnect the negative ( black ) battery cable ( 10mm open end wrench ).
Wait 10 minutes, connect it back up.
See if the CEL clears, it may not come back.
If so, then :
1. find the vacuum leak ( lots of ways to do that, use search )
2. clean the MAF sensor ( use search )
3. replace the MAF sensor.
You should be able to drive short distances, but don't take my word on that.
Find a good independent MB type shop that doesn't mind working on a Crossfire.
Re: Check engine light came up today
Most LIKELY cause is a vacuum leak somewhere.
Could be a dirty/faulty MAF sensor.
At any rate, the PTCM has detected a lean fuel condition, and is unhappy.
Try this :
Disconnect the negative ( black ) battery cable ( 10mm open end wrench ).
Wait 10 minutes, connect it back up.
See if the CEL clears, it may not come back.
If so, then :
1. find the vacuum leak ( lots of ways to do that, use search )
2. clean the MAF sensor ( use search )
3. replace the MAF sensor.
You should be able to drive short distances, but don't take my word on that.
Find a good independent MB type shop that doesn't mind working on a Crossfire.
Could be a dirty/faulty MAF sensor.
At any rate, the PTCM has detected a lean fuel condition, and is unhappy.
Try this :
Disconnect the negative ( black ) battery cable ( 10mm open end wrench ).
Wait 10 minutes, connect it back up.
See if the CEL clears, it may not come back.
If so, then :
1. find the vacuum leak ( lots of ways to do that, use search )
2. clean the MAF sensor ( use search )
3. replace the MAF sensor.
You should be able to drive short distances, but don't take my word on that.
Find a good independent MB type shop that doesn't mind working on a Crossfire.