Carbotech Xp12/10 + Endless RF-650 review - Get them!
Carbotech Xp12/10 + Endless RF-650 review - Get them!
For anyone who is looking for a brake upgrade for the track, definitely get the Carbotechs. So impressed I can't even describe. My wallowy, pudding of a machine that Chrysler shaped to look like a sports car can actually brake with the best out there... repeatedly! I love this car for a lot or reasons (11 yr owner), but being a great sports car isn't one of them. With this upgrade, going into corners was a test of my bravery more than the ability of the car. Truthfully, I wouldn't bother with a big brake kit at all unless I gained 150+ horse or started running slicks.
Here's my setup:
Carbotech XP12 up front
XP10 in the rear
Stock size dimpled and slotted front rotors (IIRC PowerStop?)
Ate spiral slotted rear rotors
Endless RF-650 fluid
Stock everything else
Bridgestone RE760s for anyone who is curious. 225 up front, 275 rear
I simply could not fade this combo. Did 30 continuous laps on a heavy braking course. The pedal didn't get softer in the slightest when up to temp. Overall, they're actually not too noisy either. Never silent, and will squeal when a certain amount of pressure is applied, but nowhere near as bad as EBC Yellowstuff. Long story short, there is really no need for a BBK IMHO unless you have an SRT-6/engine swap, or are trying to fill your 22s for cosmetic reasons. Heading back to the track tomorrow, so I'll update if I have any more info
Here's my setup:
Carbotech XP12 up front
XP10 in the rear
Stock size dimpled and slotted front rotors (IIRC PowerStop?)
Ate spiral slotted rear rotors
Endless RF-650 fluid
Stock everything else
Bridgestone RE760s for anyone who is curious. 225 up front, 275 rear
I simply could not fade this combo. Did 30 continuous laps on a heavy braking course. The pedal didn't get softer in the slightest when up to temp. Overall, they're actually not too noisy either. Never silent, and will squeal when a certain amount of pressure is applied, but nowhere near as bad as EBC Yellowstuff. Long story short, there is really no need for a BBK IMHO unless you have an SRT-6/engine swap, or are trying to fill your 22s for cosmetic reasons. Heading back to the track tomorrow, so I'll update if I have any more info
Re: Carbotech Xp12/10 + Endless RF-650 review - Get them!
Brakes were even better the second time around. Still really impressed. Heading to a bigger track approx 200kph to 80kph braking zone soon.
BUT! completely scratch everything I said about them being quiet on the street. They squeal, cry, squeak and moan all at random times in an off-key symphony of ear torture. it doesn't matter how you modulate them, they just cry out in a different tone. Much worse than the EBCs. Only keep these for the track. =)
BUT! completely scratch everything I said about them being quiet on the street. They squeal, cry, squeak and moan all at random times in an off-key symphony of ear torture. it doesn't matter how you modulate them, they just cry out in a different tone. Much worse than the EBCs. Only keep these for the track. =)
Re: Carbotech Xp12/10 + Endless RF-650 review - Get them!
So, about 250km of track time on a much faster track this time, and still the same result. Hours of fade free, hard pedal performance! I actually had a couple of people comment about how late I was going into corners.
@daveesrt. Can't comment on the EBC reds really, but the yellows were perpetually noisy and only held up for a few laps for me. I'd say they would be a good auto-X pad. They bite even when cold, but only for so long. The bonus is no dust to clean up after. To be fair, the Carbotech setup cost about triple lol, so I probably shouldn't have brought up EBC at all.
@daveesrt. Can't comment on the EBC reds really, but the yellows were perpetually noisy and only held up for a few laps for me. I'd say they would be a good auto-X pad. They bite even when cold, but only for so long. The bonus is no dust to clean up after. To be fair, the Carbotech setup cost about triple lol, so I probably shouldn't have brought up EBC at all.
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