Thinking on buying the non SRT6 model (Coupe? Has the moving auto spoiler)

All because I can't do automatic transmission, love manual too much (wish the SRT6 came in manual...)

I will do the usual remap first, and think I saw somewhere that someone had made a turbo kit?

May even then look into NOS, but assume there's no point in looking at CATBACKs as the Crossfire will surely have a very decent performance one as standard.

Can you fit the Mercedes Kompressor units to them after market, or do you need to mess with way more than that to make it work, Including ridiculous amounts of money?

But what is the limit without breaking the bank of performance you can hope to add to the non SRT6? I suppose in terms of horsepower.

I saw the sprint booster thread too, and im sold there already.

Appreciate any insights, thanks.

 

Pretty much forget about turbo or SC.
what you CAN do :
1. 74mm throttle body
2. single CAI ( you can do the dual, but that's just for looks over the single )
3. Eurocharged tune.

 

See post #2, then try the SRT6.

Add the mods if you want to up the performance but you will still be about 90 hp behind the stock SRT6.

Do not come back in a year and say I wish I had purchased an SRT6. Each to their own but I had a new 2004 for six years, I sat in an SRT6 and got one as soon as I could.

 

Waow, 90, even after NOS?

 

STOCK ratings = 330 ( SRT6) - 215 (NA) = 115 HP difference.
The SRT6 can approach, or slightly exceed 400 hp correctly modded.
The NA, with the additions I listed above will have somewhere in the neighborhood of 250-260 hp.
Add NOS ( at you own risk ) and you MIGHT see 280-290, still over 100 hp short of a tricked out SRT6.
If you really want to keep the NA/Limited/Base body, look into doing a V8 swap.
Then, you'll have some serious power.
NOTE: most V8 swaps have been done with an automatic 5 speed, but I do know of at least one that was done with a 6 speed.
Problem is that the MB 6 speed manual is not really rated to handle the HP that a V8 delivers.

 

There is the debate about the SRT6 horse power, is it 330 or 350 in the stock condition.
The Eurocharged tune only adds 18 hp, the same as the NA increase.

 

Same is true for the M112 NA engine, is it really 215 HP as stated by Chrysler, or is it the same as the SLK320 at 230 HP ?

 

Where is that 230 coming from? For hp the 218 figure is the common hp found for the SLK320.

 

I find the torque curve far more informative than simple HP ratings.


That said for real power with a very wide torque band you need DOHC with VVT i&e, Direct Injection, and Boost. Current SOA for a 87 PON 3.2 engine would be 402 hp and 390 lb-ft of torque from 1750 to 4500 rpm with a redline in the 6500-7000 range.


Personally I find the N/A 3.2 to be "enough for me" but a still a design from the last century. It is the total Crossfire package that I like.

 

I find the power (no matter what numbers are posted for this dyno or that dyno, or other data) totally able to make me smile EXCEPT for the fact that right now I am unable to enjoy my XF at all.

 

I still think the best MOD that you can give your Car , just learn how to drive it , once you know what it really can do ,then the fun kick in

 

Gotta change the stuff I'm smokin ! Yer right Dave : ( from NADA Blue Book )

 

The Latest EuroCharge TCU tune gives you manual when you switch from S to W.
I'd contact EC and get further information. If you were to buy an SRT6, this coup be a good outfit for your tranny needs.

 

??? Am lost here, you do know the S/W switch is a Standard mode/Winter-Wet mode setting. In W, it starts in second (Unless first is set manually) for better traction on slick roads. My 2008 owners manual has this on page 180. ???




Disregard post, reread post and corrected my position! Don't worry, all you youngin's will get it someday, like I am lately. He he he he he

 

I have an EVOTech TCU that I purchased around 5 years ago. It has the stock tune in S mode and the modified tune in W mode. It's a good way to do it IMO.

Les

 

Mea culpa... Did not read correctly that it is a TCU modded transmission


Thanks Les, for the nudge in the right direction (teasing me to reread the post I commented on)...

 

I hope TCU tuning has improved because mine worked best for finding out what hp my car made at 6400 rpm on the dyno. It had to be manually prompted to shift and the shifts were slower than stock. The rev limiter got a work out (I always hit it) and I was always slower using the tune. It's currently sitting on my desk because it was glued shut and no one wants the responsibility of possible ruining it trying to get it open. It's programed to shift at 6400 rpm and the engine rev limiter is set to 6500 rpm. Currently I have a TCU programmed for my 3:27 rear gear with stock shift parameters.

Les

 

Totally agree with Aeroblu. I bought an N/A not knowing anything about the Srt6. Six years in an N/A, the last two wishing I had an SRT6. Went through all the same stuff you are. I even considered buying a totalled SRT6 and putting everything an my N/A. Finally sold it and bought an SRT6. There's no comparison to the N/A. Zero. Totally different ride, feel, and performance

 

Okay first of all, our str6's do not have your everyday Auto. Do not compare them to the auto in any car you have owned unless it was an amg or similar. I have said this over and over again to my friends, this is the best auto transmission I've ever driven, and I will only buy an auto amg from now on. It is truly on another level, especially when compared to those darn CVT's.....

Second, get the srt6. You will regret it if you don't. Its like asking a ugly/chubby/hairy/smelly girl to prom when the hot/sexy/fine one is already willing to with you to prom and your hotel room after. You will not miss manuals, you will only wish every auto was made like this. You will never have anything close to an srt6 unless you put massive amounts of money into a NA xfire, in others you drop in a v8 supercharged (which i highly recommend as well).

Third, no there is no turbo kit. forget it. forget what you read. Go out and spend your time searching for a mermaid, you will have better luck. Bring me back one.

Fourth, the srt6 will make crazy power with minor bolt ons. For the cheap guys, you can hit 12's with approximately 1500. I think it will cost you $20,000 if you bought a NA to get to that point (v8 swap).

Fifth (becoming a long list), EuroCharged makes a TCU tune, I don't even have it and I love my transmission as is. Its like having a girlfriend with amazing hooters and then she goes and gets implants. The TCU tune will give you full manual option without the clutch. Yea full control.

Do not compare an amg auto to the auto's you have driven. They are not the same, at least in my experience.

Drive an srt6 and fall in love. She won't bleed you dry, she's trustworthy, she's a hell of a ride and she's very unique. Not pontiac aztec unique, more like Dodge IROC R/T or DOHC V8 Corvette unique (yea remember those, how many people googled the IROC).

 

I had an NA for six years and I had wanted an SRT after going in Rudys modded one, so a year or so later I got one. With half as much hp again it was exhilarating, I have not added anything to it and I am happy as it sits, it had the SCA intake with when I got the car. I have had it for nearly five years now and I am glad I got it.

I have been in Beaners one with a V8 and that would be very nice to have, but I am content, at my age they say too much excitement is not good.