Traction control isn't completly off
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Re: Traction control isn't completly off
I'm not sure what you mean by launching from "a dig", but:
I think it is the same system that was on the Dodge Charger R/T I had.
Two options
1 - full on Traction control/ABS/Stability Control
2 - Traction control off, BUT will re-activate if the car thinks it is losing control and/or just 1 wheel excessive spin.
On the SRT8 Chargers, you had a 3rd option which was
3 - Everything fully off, mainly for track use, and it would not turn on until switched or on restart.
The Charger guys would trick the car into thinking there was a fault in the system, so it would be fully de-activated, typically by removing the ground from the body roll sensor.
Personally I would just pull the fuse when actually at the track. But I haven't read into it that much.
I think it is the same system that was on the Dodge Charger R/T I had.
Two options
1 - full on Traction control/ABS/Stability Control
2 - Traction control off, BUT will re-activate if the car thinks it is losing control and/or just 1 wheel excessive spin.
On the SRT8 Chargers, you had a 3rd option which was
3 - Everything fully off, mainly for track use, and it would not turn on until switched or on restart.
The Charger guys would trick the car into thinking there was a fault in the system, so it would be fully de-activated, typically by removing the ground from the body roll sensor.
Personally I would just pull the fuse when actually at the track. But I haven't read into it that much.
Re: Traction control isn't completly off
I'm not sure what you mean by launching from "a dig", but:
I think it is the same system that was on the Dodge Charger R/T I had.
Two options
1 - full on Traction control/ABS/Stability Control
2 - Traction control off, BUT will re-activate if the car thinks it is losing control and/or just 1 wheel excessive spin.
On the SRT8 Chargers, you had a 3rd option which was
3 - Everything fully off, mainly for track use, and it would not turn on until switched or on restart.
The Charger guys would trick the car into thinking there was a fault in the system, so it would be fully de-activated, typically by removing the ground from the body roll sensor.
Personally I would just pull the fuse when actually at the track. But I haven't read into it that much.
I think it is the same system that was on the Dodge Charger R/T I had.
Two options
1 - full on Traction control/ABS/Stability Control
2 - Traction control off, BUT will re-activate if the car thinks it is losing control and/or just 1 wheel excessive spin.
On the SRT8 Chargers, you had a 3rd option which was
3 - Everything fully off, mainly for track use, and it would not turn on until switched or on restart.
The Charger guys would trick the car into thinking there was a fault in the system, so it would be fully de-activated, typically by removing the ground from the body roll sensor.
Personally I would just pull the fuse when actually at the track. But I haven't read into it that much.
From a dead stop. If the car is rolling a bit, I can double clutch it and it will spin freely. But when you are at a dead stop, for some reason the traction control will still try to work when it is off.
Re: Traction control isn't completly off
First of all the TC system on the Crossfire is not the same system as used in any other Chrysler/Dodge product, it's a Mercedes interpretation of TC because as we know its a Mercedes underneath. Turning the TC off allows wheel spin, actually with the system engaged you can still get a small amount of wheel spin.
If the TC is off and the ESP senses the car getting out of shape (lateral movement or any real yaw angle) the system will re-engage the TC. The only way to get real burnout style wheel spin is to disconnect the F3 50 A fuse (or wire going to the fuse) in the small fuse box on the right side under the hood. Doing that will fully disable the TC and the ESP systems.
If the TC is off and the ESP senses the car getting out of shape (lateral movement or any real yaw angle) the system will re-engage the TC. The only way to get real burnout style wheel spin is to disconnect the F3 50 A fuse (or wire going to the fuse) in the small fuse box on the right side under the hood. Doing that will fully disable the TC and the ESP systems.
Re: Traction control isn't completly off
First of all the TC system on the Crossfire is not the same system as used in any other Chrysler/Dodge product, it's a Mercedes interpretation of TC because as we know its a Mercedes underneath. Turning the TC off allows wheel spin, actually with the system engaged you can still get a small amount of wheel spin.
If the TC is off and the ESP senses the car getting out of shape (lateral movement or any real yaw angle) the system will re-engage the TC. The only way to get real burnout style wheel spin is to disconnect the F3 50 A fuse (or wire going to the fuse) in the small fuse box on the right side under the hood. Doing that will fully disable the TC and the ESP systems.
If the TC is off and the ESP senses the car getting out of shape (lateral movement or any real yaw angle) the system will re-engage the TC. The only way to get real burnout style wheel spin is to disconnect the F3 50 A fuse (or wire going to the fuse) in the small fuse box on the right side under the hood. Doing that will fully disable the TC and the ESP systems.
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First of all the TC system on the Crossfire is not the same system as used in any other Chrysler/Dodge product, it's a Mercedes interpretation of TC because as we know its a Mercedes underneath. Turning the TC off allows wheel spin, actually with the system engaged you can still get a small amount of wheel spin.
If the TC is off and the ESP senses the car getting out of shape (lateral movement or any real yaw angle) the system will re-engage the TC. The only way to get real burnout style wheel spin is to disconnect the F3 50 A fuse (or wire going to the fuse) in the small fuse box on the right side under the hood. Doing that will fully disable the TC and the ESP systems.
If the TC is off and the ESP senses the car getting out of shape (lateral movement or any real yaw angle) the system will re-engage the TC. The only way to get real burnout style wheel spin is to disconnect the F3 50 A fuse (or wire going to the fuse) in the small fuse box on the right side under the hood. Doing that will fully disable the TC and the ESP systems.
W/ tc OFF, of course.
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Any proof? Why 4800? Why not 5000, that's a nice round number?
Do you have to have the radio on preset #3 or turn the wipers on and off before you do it? or? or? or? . . .
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Oh, I just noticed who you are.
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Re: Traction control isn't completly off
You're free to believe any anything you wish, many people do so about many things not just traction control on Chrysler Crossfires. Believing something doesn't make it true.
If you got the car out of shape sideways (TC off) at say 3600 rpm I "seem" to think the TC will re-engage itself.
I am basing that belief on the experience of my stock Crossfire doing that.
Re: Traction control isn't completly off
First of all the TC system on the Crossfire is not the same system as used in any other Chrysler/Dodge product, it's a Mercedes interpretation of TC because as we know its a Mercedes underneath. Turning the TC off allows wheel spin, actually with the system engaged you can still get a small amount of wheel spin.
If the TC is off and the ESP senses the car getting out of shape (lateral movement or any real yaw angle) the system will re-engage the TC. The only way to get real burnout style wheel spin is to disconnect the F3 50 A fuse (or wire going to the fuse) in the small fuse box on the right side under the hood. Doing that will fully disable the TC and the ESP systems.
If the TC is off and the ESP senses the car getting out of shape (lateral movement or any real yaw angle) the system will re-engage the TC. The only way to get real burnout style wheel spin is to disconnect the F3 50 A fuse (or wire going to the fuse) in the small fuse box on the right side under the hood. Doing that will fully disable the TC and the ESP systems.
what about the abs snapping the car straight again? Wheel spin is cool... but how would you stop the car from stopping you from drifting around a little bit?
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As I said "If the TC is off and the ESP senses the car getting out of shape (lateral movement or any real yaw angle) the system will re-engage the TC." What you sense as an ABS interaction is in fact the ESP (stability control) doing just that, stopping the car from drifting.
And as I said "the only way to get real burnout style wheel spin is to disconnect the F3 50 A fuse (or wire going to the fuse) in the small fuse box on the right side under the hood. Doing that will fully disable the TC and the ESP systems." It will also disable the brake-lights. Beware.
And as I said "the only way to get real burnout style wheel spin is to disconnect the F3 50 A fuse (or wire going to the fuse) in the small fuse box on the right side under the hood. Doing that will fully disable the TC and the ESP systems." It will also disable the brake-lights. Beware.
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