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1st gear almost got me killed today!

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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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Ok, whatever you say...
Damn straight, what ever I say!!!
 
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 03:59 PM
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that's what they said, but it makes absolutely no sense, how does a synchro cause this effect. its BS excuse made up by DC.
When you 'shift' gears, with the exception of reverse, you are not actually moving any gears at all. All the gears are in constant mesh and rotating. What you are doing is moving a selector fork which moves a dog ring that locks the appropriate gears to the rotating gear shafts. The sychro ring matches the speed of the gear to the speed of the shaft such that the dog ring's splines can move to lock the gear to the shaft. The dog ring is held in position by a detent on the selector shaft. It is quite possible for the syncro ring to prevent the dog ring moving fully into position and the detent fully engaging as it is all part of the gear/dog ring assembly. Believe me the synchro/dog assembly CAN cause gears to 'pop' out, or rather prevent them from not engaging fully in the first place. I have rebuilt at least three 'boxes (Fiat RWD and VW) that have had this problem. However, I imagine that DC use the term 'synchro' to refer to the complete synchro/dog ring assembly which often comes as a pre-assembled assembly.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 04:18 PM
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Now that's an intelligent answer.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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DYNAMICS,
Doesn't DC have to provide you with a loaner car while yours is in the shop? I'm just asking in case I have a problem. I got paperwork with mine saying they had to give you a loaner?
 
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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DYNAMICS,
Doesn't DC have to provide you with a loaner car while yours is in the shop? I'm just asking in case I have a problem. I got paperwork with mine saying they had to give you a loaner?
Only if you purchased the special package warrantee. My dealer use to of it on the standard warrantee, but they said people took advantage of their offer and abused the cars, so no more loaners.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by woody
When you 'shift' gears, with the exception of reverse, you are not actually moving any gears at all. All the gears are in constant mesh and rotating. What you are doing is moving a selector fork which moves a dog ring that locks the appropriate gears to the rotating gear shafts. The sychro ring matches the speed of the gear to the speed of the shaft such that the dog ring's splines can move to lock the gear to the shaft. The dog ring is held in position by a detent on the selector shaft. It is quite possible for the syncro ring to prevent the dog ring moving fully into position and the detent fully engaging as it is all part of the gear/dog ring assembly. Believe me the synchro/dog assembly CAN cause gears to 'pop' out, or rather prevent them from not engaging fully in the first place. I have rebuilt at least three 'boxes (Fiat RWD and VW) that have had this problem. However, I imagine that DC use the term 'synchro' to refer to the complete synchro/dog ring assembly which often comes as a pre-assembled assembly.
Well woody I'm glad there are people like you on here to clear up any misinformation, thanks for the information that had me confused. Now I don't feel like it's a scam.

But if you think about it, wouldn't it be cheaper for the dealer to just drop in a new tranny than to waste their mechanics time repairing a non functioning tranny. I just don't understand the economics here.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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I guess it would depend on the actual cost of the new trans plus the time to r&r it.
If it can be serviced and just replace parts in the car it could be much cheaper for them.
 
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