Turbo Crossfire
to tell you the truth, your better off installing a cheap eaton supercharger like in the Chuck norris thread, instead of wasteing your time building a turbo set up, because you will not be making anymore Hp due to the high compression. The only Hp gains will be from less engine drag from a turbo.
the only way to take advantage of the turbo is by lowering your N/A pistons compression ratio, so you can turn the pressure up. so unless you are able to pull the pistons, just stick with a low boost supercharger set up.
the only way to take advantage of the turbo is by lowering your N/A pistons compression ratio, so you can turn the pressure up. so unless you are able to pull the pistons, just stick with a low boost supercharger set up.
Originally Posted by Maxwell
to tell you the truth, your better off installing a cheap eaton supercharger like in the Chuck norris thread, instead of wasteing your time building a turbo set up, because you will not be making anymore Hp due to the high compression. The only Hp gains will be from less engine drag from a turbo.
the only way to take advantage of the turbo is by lowering your N/A pistons compression ratio, so you can turn the pressure up. so unless you are able to pull the pistons, just stick with a low boost supercharger set up.
the only way to take advantage of the turbo is by lowering your N/A pistons compression ratio, so you can turn the pressure up. so unless you are able to pull the pistons, just stick with a low boost supercharger set up.
i say go for it. i just hope you can keep us onlookers informed because it seems some of the other turbo prospects have faded away into oblivion very quickly.
Maxwell,
i would have to agree with GatorLCA that the only turbo crossfire that has been physically mounted had terribl ECU problems and doesn't make anymore power than the N/A. From what I understand it is basically a glorified show car at this point...
RESULT of the ENDEAVOUR
http://www.hotimportnights.com/cars/...1UJN73B011B346
or search SPEEDMAX on the forums for more info...
again, good luck sodamhot. please keep us updated
Maxwell,
i would have to agree with GatorLCA that the only turbo crossfire that has been physically mounted had terribl ECU problems and doesn't make anymore power than the N/A. From what I understand it is basically a glorified show car at this point...
RESULT of the ENDEAVOUR
http://www.hotimportnights.com/cars/...1UJN73B011B346
or search SPEEDMAX on the forums for more info...
again, good luck sodamhot. please keep us updated
Based on what I've read about attempting to add Turbo to a Crossfire, I'd be shocked if you actually got it to work reliably. That said, I wish you the best of luck on the project. Please keep us up-to-date on your progress. We'll be pulling for ya!
Originally Posted by Sodamhot
First of all the lack of aftermarket support for our car is fustrating to say the least. ANywya with that said I have made a final decision on what I am going to do with my car. I was back and forth with trying to find a srt engine, No2 and just basic bolt ons but i think the Rear mount turbo is my best bet. I just bought a used t70 from a friend. So it not just talk anymore I am in the mix I have a friend of mine in a shop who can help me fab up the piping. I am goign to do a electic oil pump with a dedicated resivor. For tuning I am going to run the AEM FIC I have a guy here who can seat tune it for me. It wont be perfect but it will be better than nothing. So besides that it is a pretty simple setup. IC, BOV and a forgot which wastegate I had on this manifold. I ill uprgrade the injectors and thats about it. I will also be sellign my barley used borla exhaust so if anyone has any offer I am listening
Yeah, have fun with the ECU 
But really, my first post was not meant to be discouraging.. just the fact that there have been so many "I have all the right connections i'll keep you guys updated i'm going to turbo my crossfire" posts and then never heard from again..
But really, my first post was not meant to be discouraging.. just the fact that there have been so many "I have all the right connections i'll keep you guys updated i'm going to turbo my crossfire" posts and then never heard from again..
Originally Posted by nox1s
Yeah, have fun with the ECU 
But really, my first post was not meant to be discouraging.. just the fact that there have been so many "I have all the right connections i'll keep you guys updated i'm going to turbo my crossfire" posts and then never heard from again..
But really, my first post was not meant to be discouraging.. just the fact that there have been so many "I have all the right connections i'll keep you guys updated i'm going to turbo my crossfire" posts and then never heard from again..
the ecu problem is solvable.. remove it
the only thing can bus are the traction control and the esp.. both of which are not needed
\
a standalone can run our cars and keep all of the stock amenities, ac clutch, fan switch, etc
all of the gauges will work (you just have to know the voltage reference tables)
the only thing can bus are the traction control and the esp.. both of which are not needed
\
a standalone can run our cars and keep all of the stock amenities, ac clutch, fan switch, etc
all of the gauges will work (you just have to know the voltage reference tables)
Originally Posted by apkano
LOL....I'm still waiting for Maverick to come back and report how great his electric supercharger worked?!!

Originally Posted by Infinite
the ecu problem is solvable.. remove it
the only thing can bus are the traction control and the esp.. both of which are not needed
\
a standalone can run our cars and keep all of the stock amenities, ac clutch, fan switch, etc
all of the gauges will work (you just have to know the voltage reference tables)
the only thing can bus are the traction control and the esp.. both of which are not needed
\
a standalone can run our cars and keep all of the stock amenities, ac clutch, fan switch, etc
all of the gauges will work (you just have to know the voltage reference tables)
Originally Posted by Infinite
the ecu problem is solvable.. remove it
the only thing can bus are the traction control and the esp.. both of which are not needed
\
a standalone can run our cars and keep all of the stock amenities, ac clutch, fan switch, etc
all of the gauges will work (you just have to know the voltage reference tables)
the only thing can bus are the traction control and the esp.. both of which are not needed
\
a standalone can run our cars and keep all of the stock amenities, ac clutch, fan switch, etc
all of the gauges will work (you just have to know the voltage reference tables)
I applaude your ideas and hope you can get them to work. I knwo the route I'm going is going to involve lots and lots of breadboards and home made controllers. Not to hard but how ya gonna make that wing go up on it's own at or above 55?
Good luck and post everythign you figure out so we all know what's going on.
I can get a motec cheaper LOL
There's no need for a motec. Haltech does the Same as the unit he has for less
Electronics are simple. Edu recieves signals from the motor. Outputs signals to run the motor and the gauges.
Its just getting it all right
There's no need for a motec. Haltech does the Same as the unit he has for less
Electronics are simple. Edu recieves signals from the motor. Outputs signals to run the motor and the gauges.
Its just getting it all right
Originally Posted by Infinite
I can get a motec cheaper LOL
There's no need for a motec. Haltech does the Same as the unit he has for less
Electronics are simple. Edu recieves signals from the motor. Outputs signals to run the motor and the gauges.
Its just getting it all right
There's no need for a motec. Haltech does the Same as the unit he has for less
Electronics are simple. Edu recieves signals from the motor. Outputs signals to run the motor and the gauges.
Its just getting it all right
Good luck
yes.. theory and practice are quite different
from what i can tell, the crank and cam position sensors should be a motronic signal, as the motronic ecu has its own goofy way of doing things
at that point its getting the ignition set up.. i'll just set both plugs to fire at the same time.
and then its building the turbo setup and tuning...
from what i can tell, the crank and cam position sensors should be a motronic signal, as the motronic ecu has its own goofy way of doing things
at that point its getting the ignition set up.. i'll just set both plugs to fire at the same time.
and then its building the turbo setup and tuning...
Originally Posted by Infinite
yes.. theory and practice are quite different
from what i can tell, the crank and cam position sensors should be a motronic signal, as the motronic ecu has its own goofy way of doing things
at that point its getting the ignition set up.. i'll just set both plugs to fire at the same time.
and then its building the turbo setup and tuning...
from what i can tell, the crank and cam position sensors should be a motronic signal, as the motronic ecu has its own goofy way of doing things
at that point its getting the ignition set up.. i'll just set both plugs to fire at the same time.
and then its building the turbo setup and tuning...
i will
im tossing numbers around right now
im still paying the note on the car... 580 a month
plus i have a racecar sitting in the garage i need to finish... plus my mom would really like to see it rolling... or destroyed
so i may just focus on paying the crossfire off and finishing my 240 before i pull another running car apart
(3 down, 2 run, lol)
im tossing numbers around right now
im still paying the note on the car... 580 a month
plus i have a racecar sitting in the garage i need to finish... plus my mom would really like to see it rolling... or destroyed
so i may just focus on paying the crossfire off and finishing my 240 before i pull another running car apart
(3 down, 2 run, lol)
Originally Posted by Infinite
the ecu problem is solvable.. remove it
the only thing can bus are the traction control and the esp.. both of which are not needed
\
a standalone can run our cars and keep all of the stock amenities, ac clutch, fan switch, etc
all of the gauges will work (you just have to know the voltage reference tables)
the only thing can bus are the traction control and the esp.. both of which are not needed
\
a standalone can run our cars and keep all of the stock amenities, ac clutch, fan switch, etc
all of the gauges will work (you just have to know the voltage reference tables)
My source on this is VBOX in Buckingham, United Kingdon MK18 1TF
Justin
Last edited by Jeep2Xfire; Aug 21, 2008 at 05:19 PM.
Ms is cheap but it has low resolution tuning maps. 16x16 vs aems 32x32
if you're serious about making power you need a standalone. The stock gauges can be replaced with a digital dash similar to the aim unit.
I still don't get why you guys are so hung up on keeping everything stock. The value of our cars gets lower everyday. Pretty soon they'll be priced like a civic. It's just a car. If you want to make power and go fast, the stock **** needs to go.
if you're serious about making power you need a standalone. The stock gauges can be replaced with a digital dash similar to the aim unit.
I still don't get why you guys are so hung up on keeping everything stock. The value of our cars gets lower everyday. Pretty soon they'll be priced like a civic. It's just a car. If you want to make power and go fast, the stock **** needs to go.


