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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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Just wondering if anyone has seen the videos on youtube of guys taking out fuses or putting in switches to get the traction control completely off. Looks like a big difference off the line and when you shift it doesnt bog but I belive they cant shift over 5k. Don't know if its that big of a deal or will screw the car up? Again just wondering.... Thanx
 
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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just turn the TC off, and work on your launch, you will be fine...no need to pull fuses
 
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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 10:19 AM
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except for pushing the button doesn't totally kill the system, it still intervenes. Sometimes you just want to have fun. In a controlled environment of course.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 12:04 PM
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I'm the one who made those video's.

The one video CLEARLY shows me exceeding the 5k limiter with the fuses out.

You can destroy the tires much easier with the system totally disabled, (no fuses), though some people have found that they have no brake lights after pulling the fuses out.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 12:20 PM
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https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...58-esp-tc.html

On my 04, (6-spd) I simply disconnected the center wire from the traction control. Like Apkano pointed out, mine goes right up to red line with no problem, and everything works as normal except of course, TC and anti-locks.
Makes my car lots more fun to drive, without having to deal with the "black box" putting my car into "limp mode" every single time the rear tire loses traction for a fraction of a second. (no matter if the "factory" tc switch was on or not).
Later models tend to have more problems when you tamper with the TC, from what I understand.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2009 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by mophreakous
Just wondering if anyone has seen the videos on youtube of guys taking out fuses or putting in switches to get the traction control completely off. Looks like a big difference off the line and when you shift it doesnt bog but I belive they cant shift over 5k. Don't know if its that big of a deal or will screw the car up? Again just wondering.... Thanx
Here is what I did to take out fuses #17 & #18, the brake lights still work too. Screwed up the title to the post and it wouldn't let me change it, it say's turning of instead of turning off
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...-w-remote.html
Every thing is hidden in the bottom of the fuse box, if you open the hood you will see nothing. I still can't do doughnuts, the YAW sensor kicks in about half way around. But you can really get her sideways.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2009 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve Hellums
Here is what I did to take out fuses #17 & #18, the brake lights still work too. Screwed up the title to the post and it wouldn't let me change it, it say's turning of instead of turning off
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...-w-remote.html
Every thing is hidden in the bottom of the fuse box, if you open the hood you will see nothing. I still can't do doughnuts, the YAW sensor kicks in about half way around. But you can really get her sideways.

Wow Steve.......haven't seen you around here in a while. Where you been hiding?


Good to have you back though.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2009 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by apkano
Wow Steve.......haven't seen you around here in a while. Where you been hiding?


Good to have you back though.
Just don't have as much free time at work as I use to have . I sneek in once in a while & look around to see if there is anything new going on.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 10:29 AM
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I have an 04 and was looking to take my fuses out but on the drivers side, fuse box there is no fuses for 17 and 18, the cover list them as spares? What do i do, one say speed control but i assumes that was cruise control. Any suggestions would be great.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 02:25 PM
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I found this the other day, I have no idea if it works with our car though..

http://autospeed.com.au/cms/title_Us...1/article.html



It’s easy to think of relays as being suitable for just simple car modifications, but that’s not always the case.
This circuit shows the use of two relays that deactivate traction control without affecting ABS or stability control. The system works by connecting the un-driven wheel ABS sensor outputs to the driven wheel ECU inputs, so that the ECU cannot see a speed difference between the undriven and driven wheels. The modification is automatically switched off whenever the brakes are applied, or by a manual on/off switch. This diagram shows only half of the system - the complete the system just mirror-images the wiring for the other side of the car.
The total cost of the modification was well under AUD$30 – relays are cheap! For more on this approach, see Modifying Electronic Car Handling Systems, Part 3
 
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 06:38 PM
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https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...r-touched.html

perform my step by step in this thread and turn your TC off when you start your car and your free from the nanny and you still have break lights and ABS.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 08:43 PM
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04 cars need fuses pulled from the bos near the battery. You need to pull fuses F2-F5 and you will have zero interference.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by plainfire
I have an 04 and was looking to take my fuses out but on the drivers side, fuse box there is no fuses for 17 and 18, the cover list them as spares? What do i do, one say speed control but i assumes that was cruise control. Any suggestions would be great.
04s are different its not a fuse you disconnect its some wires located in a black box just in front of the battery. i believe +fireamx has done this i would pm him.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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TC and ESP disable is currently in the works. Makes the switch work the way it should... Press it up to turn it off and press it down to turn it back on. Hold the up side for 10 seconds and it sounds a tone and turns off ESP as well. Also remembers if you had the traction control on or off when you shut the car off and when you start it back up it turns the traction control off if it was off when you turned it off.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by downwardspiral
I found this the other day, I have no idea if it works with our car though..

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It’s easy to think of relays as being suitable for just simple car modifications, but that’s not always the case.
This circuit shows the use of two relays that deactivate traction control without affecting ABS or stability control. The system works by connecting the un-driven wheel ABS sensor outputs to the driven wheel ECU inputs, so that the ECU cannot see a speed difference between the undriven and driven wheels. The modification is automatically switched off whenever the brakes are applied, or by a manual on/off switch. This diagram shows only half of the system - the complete the system just mirror-images the wiring for the other side of the car.
The total cost of the modification was well under AUD$30 – relays are cheap! For more on this approach, see Modifying Electronic Car Handling Systems, Part 3
FYI, this is to turn off traction control, NOT the Electronic Stability Program.
 
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