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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rayth
Up to you what you want to do with the pipes, I'm assuming most leave them stock on the N/A but you could have as much fun as you want to. I don't think the Magnaflow system does much in the way of hp over the stock anyway... but someone who has exhaust work can chime in here
In my time here on the forum I don't think I have seen one post of "Increased HP" .. only a loss of low end torque..
 
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by klb.kenneth
It just seems like little things get screwed up here and there quite often. The trunk wouldn't open, some other piece brakes, etc. Nothing big, just little things every few months, that are just a pain in the ***, but won't stop the car. He also is a bit OCD when it comes to his babies. So a little scuff in the paint, it has to go into the shop to get buffed out. The shop he goes to has a backup supply of the paint because you cannot get it any more (I believe he said it is leaded paint). The engine was put in within the last 8 years or so when the whole "I've got a Hemi" was really popular, but decided not to go with one.
I guess I've been really lucky, haven't really had many little things go wrong either with my 69 AMX. (I really shouldn't say that, I probably just Jinxed myself).
I had a 1969 all original (except for wheels and tires) Hemi Super Bee.
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If it had been a 69 Hemi (or 440 Charger R/T) in the same color, I'd still have it today.
As MrMiata mentioned, the 1968 Charger R/T was my favorite as well, because of the little round side marker lights.
Turbine Bronze, black vinyl roof, black interior, with black "Bumble Bee" stripes, 440 and chrome Magnum 500's. If I had ever found one like that, it would be parked right next to my AMX.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 05:51 PM
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I been owning a 2005 LTD Xfire since last November only and it is sitting in the garage waiting for the Winter to go by, since last December and since, I been spending some spare Winter time to get more knowlege on it. . . . so I do not know a lot about ithe Xfire YET ,but I know that Forum like this one is always the place to get good awnser . . . a special Thanks to all the Members that makes them run.

Here is link to two differents products that I did not find real opinion on them but since You Guys already on the subject I am Hijaking a little bit to see if you Know anything about these . . . Sorry ,one of link will be in French since the product is for sale in "France" ,but I am sure You Guys will find a way to understand it )

http://www.cafr.ebay.ca/itm/Performa...7cca38&vxp=mtr . . . my opinion on this one is "not even sure You get wath you are paying for "

http://www.cafr.ebay.ca/itm/Boitier-...item3f1d6c45fa . . . but this one is really making me scraching my head



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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by LagDan
I been owning a 2005 LTD Xfire since last November only and it is sitting in the garage waiting for the Winter to go by, since last December and since, I been spending some spare Winter time to get more knowlege on it. . . . so I do not know a lot about ithe Xfire YET ,but I know that Forum like this one is always the place to get good awnser . . . a special Thanks to all the Members that makes them run.

Here is link to two differents products that I did not find real opinion on them but since You Guys already on the subject I am Hijaking a little bit to see if you Know anything about these . . . Sorry ,one of link will be in French since the product is for sale in "France" ,but I am sure You Guys will find a way to understand it )

http://www.cafr.ebay.ca/itm/Performa...7cca38&vxp=mtr . . . my opinion on this one is "not even sure You get wath you are paying for "

http://www.cafr.ebay.ca/itm/Boitier-...item3f1d6c45fa . . . but this one is really making me scraching my head



Daniel
Stay away. Go to the guys at Eurocharged and get a tune from them based on your modifications. Retunes are free. So as you add performance mods no more cost for the tune.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmiata
Throttle body and larger MAF housing around $140 top of scale (patiently waited and got mine around $75 total)
Where do you find this?
 
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 03:17 PM
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Why Ebay of course.. LOL. Had a make offer option and after 3 days of no bids on it.. I made an offer..

And the MAF housing.. throw sensor away! Or give to "friend" on drag night.. LOL

98 09 Mercedes Mass Air Flow Sensor Meter 5 0 5 5 4 3 | eBay

EDIT: Mine was US $23.33.. inflation .. gotta luv it.
 

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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmiata
Why Ebay of course.. LOL. Had a make offer option and after 3 days of no bids on it.. I made an offer..

And the MAF housing.. throw sensor away! Or give to "friend" on drag night.. LOL

98 09 Mercedes Mass Air Flow Sensor Meter 5 0 5 5 4 3 | eBay
Thanks for the link, been waiting for a good price. Lowest i found was 79 (too high). Apparently I just needed to take the A off the part number, doh!
 
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 04:11 PM
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I don't think they are proud of the MAF sensor.. but since that one's for your racing buddy.. LOL
 
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmiata
Why Ebay of course.. LOL. Had a make offer option and after 3 days of no bids on it.. I made an offer..

And the MAF housing.. throw sensor away! Or give to "friend" on drag night.. LOL

98 09 Mercedes Mass Air Flow Sensor Meter 5 0 5 5 4 3 | eBay

EDIT: Mine was US $23.33.. inflation .. gotta luv it.
The NeedsWings CIA comes with the upgraded MAF Housing. Does it include the Throttle Body and/or sensor?

The one item I cannot find is the Throttle Body. Maybe I am just searching the wrong thing.
 

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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by klb.kenneth
The NeedsWings CIA comes with the upgraded MAF Housing. Does it include the Throttle Body and/or sensor?

The one item I cannot find is the Throttle Body. Maybe I am just searching the wrong thing.
TB is A113 141 01 25

The NW intake replaces the MAF housing, you use the existing sensor. Does not include the TB
 
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 06:38 PM
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TB is A113 141 01 25

The NW intake replaces the MAF housing, you use the existing sensor. Does not include the TB
thank you for clarifying
 
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 06:41 PM
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So here is the list ... Tell me if I am missing anything.

· Tint ( I just need to get this done!)
o Side: VLT 28%, Reflect. 25%
o Rear: VLT 15%, Reflect. 35%

· EuroCharge tune
o Tune
§ N/A : Crossfire Performance Engine Software $550 (about $350 when on sale)
o Cable
§ N/A : Eurocharged Remote Tuning Cable $100
o Stickers (for the hell of it)
§ N/A : Eurocharged Stickers $5

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CAI

o Dual CIA
§ NeedsWings Crossfire Naturally Aspirated Dual Cold Air Intake System $800
o KN Xstream Filter Upgrade
§ K&N Xstream Filter Upgrade to NeedsWings Crossfire and SLK CAI's $80 x2

·
Oil Catch Can (Recommended by Rob)

o NeedsWings Crossfire Oil Catch Can Kit $127

·
74mm throttle body (A 113 141 01 25)
o THROTTLE BODY Mercedes R350 R500 E350 C250 ML350 S400 2006 06 07 08 09 10 11 $99
o MAF Sensor - 98 09 Mercedes Mass Air Flow Sensor Meter 5 0 5 5 4 3 | eBay $30
o Mopar O ring - Mopar Part 05102933AA NONE O RING $12

·
sprint booster

o Chrysler Crossfire SprintBooster $290

·
ANSA Muffler
o 03-up Chrysler Crossfire Mufflers from ANSA at Andy's Auto Sport $212

·
Brembo Brakes
o Brembo GT Slotted Brake Kits, Brembo Brakes Gran Turismo Slotted
o Front 355mm x 32mm Discs with 6-Piston Callipers $3,645
o Rear 339mm x 28mm Discs with 4-Piston Callipers $3,070

·
Mesh Grille
o Chrysler Crossfire 2004 to 2008 Grille Combo Stainless Steel R77808T Grille4you Discount Auto Parts $190

·
paddle shift kit
o ????????
 

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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 06:48 PM
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o MAF Sensor - 98 09 Mercedes Mass Air Flow Sensor Meter 5 0 5 5 4 3 | eBay $30
No - you should continue to use the OEM sensor that is already in the car.

And as to the grille, to ME, this looks much nicer :
http://www.bonanza.com/listings/CHRY...FYpDMgod5hEA4w
 

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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by alaxfire
No - you should continue to use the OEM sensor that is already in the car.
Thank you. As you can tell, I have no clue what I am talking about.

Originally Posted by alaxfire
I'm not such a fan. I like the mesh better.




So can anyone tell me where to get these badges?
 
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 07:09 PM
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Badges picture didn't post, but I'm sure you need to PM 'andrew'
 
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by klb.kenneth
So here is the list ... Tell me if I am missing anything.

· Tint ( I just need to get this done!)
o Side: VLT 28%, Reflect. 25%
o Rear: VLT 15%, Reflect. 35%

· EuroCharge tune
o Tune
§ N/A : Crossfire Performance Engine Software $550 (about $350 when on sale)
o Cable
§ N/A : Eurocharged Remote Tuning Cable $100
o Stickers (for the hell of it)
§ N/A : Eurocharged Stickers $5

·
CAI

o Dual CIA
§ NeedsWings Crossfire Naturally Aspirated Dual Cold Air Intake System $800
o KN Xstream Filter Upgrade
§ K&N Xstream Filter Upgrade to NeedsWings Crossfire and SLK CAI's $80 x2

·
Oil Catch Can (Recommended by Rob)

o NeedsWings Crossfire Oil Catch Can Kit $127

·
74mm throttle body (A 113 141 01 25)
o THROTTLE BODY Mercedes R350 R500 E350 C250 ML350 S400 2006 06 07 08 09 10 11 $99
o MAF Sensor - 98 09 Mercedes Mass Air Flow Sensor Meter 5 0 5 5 4 3 | eBay $30
o Mopar O ring - Mopar Part 05102933AA NONE O RING $12

·
sprint booster

o Chrysler Crossfire SprintBooster $290

·
ANSA Muffler
o 03-up Chrysler Crossfire Mufflers from ANSA at Andy's Auto Sport $212

·
Brembo Brakes
o Brembo GT Slotted Brake Kits, Brembo Brakes Gran Turismo Slotted
o Front 355mm x 32mm Discs with 6-Piston Callipers $3,645
o Rear 339mm x 28mm Discs with 4-Piston Callipers $3,070

·
Mesh Grille
o Chrysler Crossfire 2004 to 2008 Grille Combo Stainless Steel R77808T Grille4you Discount Auto Parts $190

·
paddle shift kit
o ????????
Or, save the money on this lot of gear, sell the na and buy an SRT.
You'll save all the hassle and have a faster car than the na with all the above gear on it all with no further expense required and at the same or less cost.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 07:57 PM
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Except for a new johnson.. then a new intercooler.. and SRT comes with a CAI ? Needswings just fooling people.. basically there's a list for the SRT too..

and if I'm not mistaken.. the cable is included when the sale hits on tune..
 

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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmiata
Except for a new johnson.. then a new intercooler.. and SRT comes with a CAI ? Needswings just fooling people.. basically there's a list for the SRT too..

and if I'm not mistaken.. the cable is included when the sale hits on tune..
Nothing wrong with an na, I had one for six years. What started out here as "Quick Mods" became a major and expensive parts list. I did some mods to mine, MB air box etc. I had no need for bigger brakes etc and the Sprint Booster is a waste in my mind but so what.

The SRT is way faster straight out the box, with no CAI needed. As for the Johnson and IC well you can expect to pay for parts now and again.


I went in Rudys modified SRT at Woodward one year and he left the na's in the dust at the freeway on ramp and I thought "I gotta have one of these puppys one day".
 
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 08:18 PM
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I have to agree.. "IF" fast as you can go is priority one.. the research should have been done before the purchase.. "if" you had a cherry 5,000 mile roadster you stole from someone.. Okay.. I could see the upgrade list route..

But as a final note.. each to there own..
 
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 08:53 PM
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Your list is a bit expensive, there are alternatives you could do.

Dual NW intake not needed on the NA, (can't use that much air) single will do fine, V8 mercedes box is an upgrade as well.

Sprint booster... I'd say waste as well but others swear by em. For that price and 0 HP gain it would not be high on the list. I just do the throttle reset regularly. Tune should help with pedal response as well.

I asked about the euro tune on the NA and its about to be 350 regular with cable if I'm not mistaken.

ANSA won't get any gains other than noise level.

Brembos are overkill as well, you don't need that much stopping power unless you really want it or you plan for tracking. Getting a set of c32 or other AMG (brembo) brakes will be a cheaper alternative and stop you quicker than stock.

If you got cash to burn its not really a prob, if you want to save some just do a lot if reading and searching and you will find alternatives for what you want to do.

In the end the NA is never gonna snap your neck from the power, for me it's enough to be fun but at the same time keep me out of big trouble

If the turbo or some other magic happens down the line we may be able to hang with the stock SRT crowd but visions of more than that will require swaps or many many more dollars.
 

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