Anyone tried the Dashdaq PC? Supposedly it offers everything that the XL offers but it's a ton cheaper and on a laptop instead of a 4" touch screen. 99% of the time I drive by myself so a laptop would be fine, especially for the price.

 

Does Torque Pro not have what you are looking for? Could use a tablet or a BT laptop for an even bigger screen.

 

I'm not sure honestly. 0-60 would be nice, hp/tq graphing would be nice, eventually A/F monitoring. From what I understand with a nice Dashdaq setup I could collect enough data to send to Eurocharged for a real nice tune. Plus I want the accuracy. I dont know much about either though.

 

Software would be the same I would think, whether you have it on a pc or in the unit itself. Should perform the same functions. You are just providing the hardware.

 

I suspect that scan software and a BT dongle would be about half that price. Nice thing is that the dongle can be used with both an Android smartphone (Torque) or a Windows tablet (Touchscan).(I have both)

For the Crossfire I use a

BT mini-dongle.

BT mini-dongle.

and just leave it plugged in.
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That's what I figured. They don't say much about the PC, just the XL, so it was confusing. I think I will pull the trigger after the holidays and try to get this beast tuned proper.

It seems like it would be nice, but from what I keep reading it's not what I'm looking for. I need Hp/TQ and A/F graphs which I can't confirm the app's do. Plus, based off research, it seems the dashdaq is more accurate.

 

You would be surprised. I use Torgue most of the tome and it can do 0-60 or 0-whatever, measure effective torque/hp and graph anything it can monitor & e-mail the result to your account.

 

What about A/F? Can you hookup wideband O2's?

 

You can use the zeitronix software and a ZT-3 to log afr's, rpms, speed, MAP, egt, TPS and 2 temp, or pressure sensors.

Edit: I just looked at DrewTech's website and the CarDAQ should do everything that the DashDAQ does....it is however pretty expensive. $100 for the software and $500 for the cable. Plus, I am not sure if you interface any of the add-on modules to the CarDAQ (IE widebands, EGT, map, temp and pressure sensors).

 

Nice, so how would it work if I wanted to send a graph of Hp/TQ and A/F? Would it be easy to mesh the torque pro graph and the A/F from the zeitronix?

 

What I do, when I tune may car, is do a few pulls and log the runs using the DashDAQ, and open that log up in the Zeitronix software. I do have my ZT-2 plugged into my DashDAQ, so I log PIDS that way. But you can log directly through the ZT-2, you jus wont get any PIDS from the OBD-II port. I could show you some data if you want to give me a call and connect VIA teamviewer one night. I already put the Crossfire in storage for the winter, so I cannot show any live data. Granted, I store it at my parents house and it is only 20mins away.

I am not sure if you can import data from Torque Pro into the Zeitronix software, but you can send an email to them and ask. Zeitronix customer support is very helpful and quick to respond.

 

That would be cool, and for $100 I'm just going to get the DashdaqPC and however much extra for the zeitronix. That's not a lot of money for something I know will have what I need and probably a lot of stuff I don't.

 

I don't know how many sensors are available, suspect it is over 100, just limited (like most) to what is available from the OBD-II line though Torque can also input data from a GPS and send e-Mails of the results from the phone (if you have a data plan).

On my phone I can only have 6 sensors/readouts per screen (what I can read) but have three different screen for different things and readouts (like one just for measuring acceleration: 0-60, 0-1/8, 0-1/4, effectiveHP/torque (if you enter the vehicle parameters)). For less than $20 if you have an Android phone, it is hard to beat.

ps the much more expensive tools like the autoenginuity have agreements with the mfrs to read the proprietary outputs and to be able to change and not just monitor. These are rather more expensive but few other than professionals need them.

 

I cannot see where it says that and I have never heard of it before. It may monitor in much more detail, but change settings? I think not.

 

Speaking as the creator of the Torque Pro thread, the app is great for a $30 set up but the BT connection does have a lag to it. Before Eurocharged updated their tuning program for windows the datalogging worked and it was much more responsive since you're using a USB connection.

 

Does the lag interfere with the data? Eurocharged has a datalogging device? Is it the Euroflash?

 

Yes in EuroFlash. I guess "lag" is the wrong word. It plots data every 3 seconds or so. So it's not streaming data just plotting at 3 second intervals.

 

a) What part of " What's also important is having access to the most commonly required service features like brake deactivation, service resets, and transmission adaptations-and we do that too." did you miss ? Remapping is different.

b) It is limited to some extent by the sampling rate. The more data points you sample, the longer it takes for each frame since each must be requested sequentially. This is not like the old GM OBD that sent everything in a serial data stream and you had to know where in the stream each data point was (why you had to know the year and engine).

I have not bothered to check the data rate of the Crossfire but the CAN bus in the Jeep is pretty near real time.

Crossfire seems to run pretty cool (around 185F) as it is so I am more interested in monitoring than changing.