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Old Dec 22, 2016 | 10:01 AM
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hi folks, new here....

have a 2004 crossfire manual. even with a full charge on the battery the car wont start. tried bump starting the car to no avail. also the lights work and ignition comes on but when you turn the key just nothing. dosent even try to start. has anyone encountered this problem before and if so what can i do to fix this to try??

thanks Kyle
 
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Old Dec 22, 2016 | 10:54 AM
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Hey Kyle, I'll give you a few things to start with. Check your battery cables for corrosion, not only at the battery posts, but at the grounding lug at the fender. You will definitely want to do a search here on the forum, for the RCM (RELAY CONTROL MODULE). An does your key fob work, locking an unlocking the doors ?
 
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Old Dec 22, 2016 | 10:54 AM
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Welcome.
How long have you had your crossfire?
Have you done anything to it recently?
How is the battery in the remote?
Have you unhooked the battery waited 15 min the rehooked it up?
Be aware if you do that 15 times with no start the computer will self destruct.
You can also search the
Mystery no start.
Have you done the sticky key fix?
Or changed the batteries in remote rescently?
Would give seem issues.
Does it turn over at all?
 
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Old Dec 22, 2016 | 12:56 PM
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This sounds like hte "Mystery no start" which is no mystery at all anymore.

Go to our tech section and look for "Mystery no start", the instructions are there to yank the RCM and reflow the solder on it.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2016 | 01:39 PM
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Thanks for the replays guys. Will have a wee gander in the tech section re the mystery start issue. I had read briefly about that issue. I take it this is a common problem?😂
 
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Old Dec 22, 2016 | 02:50 PM
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Here's what happens if your batteries are bad..

 

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Old Dec 22, 2016 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by knoxxxy
Thanks for the replays guys. Will have a wee gander in the tech section re the mystery start issue. I had read briefly about that issue. I take it this is a common problem?😂
About as common as your wife getting upset when she finds out you hang out at Hooters.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2016 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by pizzaguy
About as common as your wife getting upset when she finds out you hang out at Hooters.
Where's that dang "LIKE" button?


Oh. Wrong App lol.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2016 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Mrmiata
Here's what happens if your batteries are bad..

https://youtu.be/abLR05Xbpqk



That, should quell ALL the posts comments on changing the FOB batteries if the car will not start/run/crank...

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Old Dec 23, 2016 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by GraphiteGhost
That, should quell ALL the posts comments on changing the FOB batteries if the car will not start/run/crank...

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Is that a FULL quell, or a QUARTER quell ??????
 
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Old Dec 23, 2016 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ala_xfire
Is that a FULL quell, or a QUARTER quell ??????

Infinity quell? Second definition (2) here ( https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/quell ).

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Old Dec 23, 2016 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by GraphiteGhost
Infinity quell? Second definition (2) here ( https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/quell ).

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Obviously you are not a fan of the "Hunger Games" trilogy .......
 
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Old Dec 23, 2016 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ala_xfire
Obviously you are not a fan of the "Hunger Games" trilogy .......
LOL....that's funny!
 
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Old Dec 23, 2016 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmiata
Here's what happens if your batteries are bad..

https://youtu.be/abLR05Xbpqk
I don't get it. I thought the halo ,excited the chip in the fob, then allowing the SKREEM to determine it was the correct key, under power from the fob.?
 
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Old Dec 23, 2016 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Jr
LOL....that's funny!
And may the odds be ever in your favor, Steve .......
 
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Old Dec 23, 2016 | 06:52 PM
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I don't get it. I thought the halo ,excited the chip in the fob, then allowing the SKREEM to determine it was the correct key, under power from the fob.?
And that "thinking" is why the video.. get it now..? LOL.

You don't have to raise the tail and jack in 9V to read my dogs chip..
 
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Old Dec 23, 2016 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmiata

You don't have to raise the tail and jack in 9V to read my dogs chip..
You don't even pump it once?


I thought the battery, sustained the chip. Learned something today, for that..I thank you!
 
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Old Dec 24, 2016 | 01:15 AM
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OM Gawd, ROTFLMAO!


Should we get back to the OP?

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Old Jan 5, 2017 | 02:29 PM
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Jeez this got way out of hand while I was away 😂😂👌🏼. Thanks for the help will get round to the garage tomorrow and check the battery
 
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Old Mar 22, 2017 | 09:00 AM
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I'm posting on this thread rather than starting a new thread . . .

As I have not been running my Rescue Roadster very often, I put on a battery disconnect switch to keep the battery from getting run down. So . . . I switched the battery on today and found the car was in a "no crank / no start" condition. All power came on when you turn the key on but nothing happens when turned to the start position. Also the key fobs did not lock / unlock the doors (both FOBs were inactive).

I had remembered reading somewhere on the forum years ago that if the battery is disconnected and reconnected several times, the car will will think it's being stolen and shut down. To repair / reset this problem, I read to disconnect the RCM and reconnect it.

So . . . I disconnected the RCM and connected up a brand new one that I had in my parts collection. The car started right up and the key fobs were active again.

I know this problem is directly related to disconnecting and reconnecting the battery multiple times over the past several months. Can someone explain exactly what happens with doing that / why the car immobilized itself to a "no crank / no start" condition? Can this problem be avoided while still being able to disconnect / reconnect the batter over time??

Thanks for sharing your experience and expertise . . .

PS - I'm going back out to reconnect the original RCM and see if the car will start normally. I'll update this post shortly about that . . .

I replaced the original RCM and the car was back to a "no crank / no start" condition. So disconnecting / reconnecting the battery multiple times triggered something in the RCM to shut down. Can someone tell me what was shut down in there and how to reset it?
 

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