Possible SKREEM?
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My Crossfire died today at work. Thinking its a possible skreem module, but my car recognizes the key. It starts up and then kills immediately. Resoldered the RCM too, Still cranks and dies. Any suggestions? Its just weird that the car locks/unlocks with the key buttons but then wont start. Any help is appreciated.
My Crossfire died today at work. Thinking its a possible skreem module, but my car recognizes the key. It starts up and then kills immediately. Resoldered the RCM too, Still cranks and dies. Any suggestions? Its just weird that the car locks/unlocks with the key buttons but then wont start. Any help is appreciated.
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Your post is just to vauge. I know you think you described the issue, but you didn't.
"My Crossfire died today at work," Taken literally, this is not a SKREEM issue. When we say I car "died" we mean it just quit running. SKREEM issues do not cause the car to quit running, they cause it to not start.
So:
"My car recognizes the key." Fine, then you do not have a SKREEM issue, when the SKREEM craps out, the car will not recognize the key. If your SKREEM is bad, here is what you get:
"My Crossfire died today at work," Taken literally, this is not a SKREEM issue. When we say I car "died" we mean it just quit running. SKREEM issues do not cause the car to quit running, they cause it to not start.
So:
- Do you mean the car quit running ("died"?)
- Or do you mean it refused to start?
"My car recognizes the key." Fine, then you do not have a SKREEM issue, when the SKREEM craps out, the car will not recognize the key. If your SKREEM is bad, here is what you get:
- Put in key, turn it, starter engages and the car almost-kinda-briefly starts, then dies.
- Turn key to off, repeat the above and get the same response.
- Turn key to off, repeat the above - starter won't enage, you get nothing but dash lights.
- Disconnect battery. Reconnect it. Try the above again, you get two starter engagements then nothing, same as before.
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Sorry, I was at work all day yesterday and was in a total frenzy trying to get it figured out because it is my daily driver and the only car I have. So what happened was, I went to leave work, unlocked my car via remote entry, got in and tried to start it. Fired up and killed instantly. 3 times and then I have to disconnect the battery to get three more times out of it. That alone made me think that it is the SKREEM module. But I had a skreem issue last year where the car didn’t recognize the key at all, but this time at least the car is reading/receiving a signal from the key. I resoldered the connections on the RCM but to no avail. I’m not sure if it’s the CPS (crankshaft or camshaft), if it is a faulty rcm, or a SKREEM issue.
When I disconnect that battery, sometimes I get one fire up/kill and sometimes I get 2-3 before it doesn’t turn at all. Not entirely sure what’s going on here but being stuck trying to figure it out in 20 degree MN weather isn’t fun.
When I disconnect that battery, sometimes I get one fire up/kill and sometimes I get 2-3 before it doesn’t turn at all. Not entirely sure what’s going on here but being stuck trying to figure it out in 20 degree MN weather isn’t fun.
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Sorry but this one is a typical, classic and almost obvious SKREEM.
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The function of the lock and unlock buttons do not indicate that the SKREEM "recognizes the key". The lock/unlock transmitter's function is separate from the RFID chip in the key that enables starting.
Your issue is that the SKREEM is not successfully getting a response it expects from the RFID chip in the key.
Your issue is that the SKREEM is not successfully getting a response it expects from the RFID chip in the key.
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Originally Posted by Ajbarbier
Okay sounds good. Just talked to the Chrysler dealership and they said the part is discontinued. So I’m crap out of luck huh
This has been discussed multiple times in the past couple of months and serval different threads
The Chrysler dealership is useless when it comes to repairing these cars
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As of a month ago, two local Chrysler dealers in my area were able to instantly look up the Skreem in their price list. I ended up getting it and a spare key fob from Rob for less . If your Chrysler dealer just told you they just looked it up yesterday and it is now listed as discontinued, this needs to be confirmed, because if true, our worse nightmare as just happened.
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One important point to consider when getting them from the yard is making sure that the part number matches identically. With that said, other part numbers may work, the key is the MCU inside the board has a mask, if the mask matches between your vehicle and the donour, it's all good!
Pizzaguy,
Are you certain cloning these MCUs would fix the problem? Without data alteration or new key generation? I have personally come across a case with a SLK (same system as Crossfire) where a new Key had to be generated to start the car. But I have not done a lot of these to know the exact trend/issues for this SKREEM and why they fail. Would be interesting to try and find out what exactly fails and reach closer to a solution than cloning.
Cheers
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Had it towed to a dealership to see if they could pinpoint the problem for sure and after an initial diagnostic they can’t find exactly what the problem is, of course. Should have figured it would be a huge waste of time. Just want to make sure it’s the SKREEM before I drop $700 on the damn part.
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Had it towed to a dealership to see if they could pinpoint the problem for sure and after an initial diagnostic they can’t find exactly what the problem is, of course. Should have figured it would be a huge waste of time. Just want to make sure it’s the SKREEM before I drop $700 on the damn part.
just my 2 cents with over 11 years here
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All I can do is quote Josh Chase. If you have in-depth questions, go on Facebook and ask him.
I am not claiming any great knowledge here - I am quoting the guy who KNOWS and has DONE IT. I tend not to argue with such people.
TO answer your question: YES. If Josh says it, then I'm sure of it.
I am not claiming any great knowledge here - I am quoting the guy who KNOWS and has DONE IT. I tend not to argue with such people.
TO answer your question: YES. If Josh says it, then I'm sure of it.
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I am new here and think I have messed my key up. I just bought this 2005 red convertible and it only came with one key. The holder on the key that locks and unlocks the car was in bad shape so I bought a new case and put the key and operating things in the new case. Now the car will not start. Get 2 tries then disconnect the battery and get 2 more tries for 2-3 seconds each time. I guess I've messed up the RFID chip in the key. I Did not know it could fall out. Do you know what it looks like or have an opinion of what I should do? Thanks
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Yes. Assuming it is missing or possibly it is there but the fob was not reassemble d correctly or this chip is there but possibly got dislodged during assemply. There are other posts here from otherswho have actually taken these apart, both successfully, complete with photos and instructions, and some who unsuccessfully did so with warnings not to take it apart. Check outthose stickies and other key fob posts at the top of the technical section first before giving up on your current key. I'm fact, there are experts here in key disassembly that can take you step by step if you find the chip and just need help assembling it properly.Just ask! Now if all fails, the chip is gone, etc., then I would humbly suggest that you immediately contact our good friend Rob at needs wings on line and immediately order a new key fob from him for about $670. You must provide him with ownership documentation and vin number and will have it in a week. There is a ten second program procedure included to get it to open the doors that he will include. As of this moment the $830 option for getting the key from a Chrysler dealer is temporarily not available. Warnimg...It sure seems like you have a key fob issuse caused by disassembly, but your key or replacement sends a signal to an antenna which surrounds your key slot, which plugs into a vin sensitive receiver called a skree m located inside your dashboard. That can go bad at anytime and cause the exact same symptoms. I sincerely doubt that is your problem at the moment as your problem began after key fob disassembly, but save up your pennies and get a spare skreen for about the same price from Rob while you can still get them. The Chrysler Delalerships are also currently having trouble getting the skree m units at the moment. Make sure you end up at the correct needs wings site (check top of your page) as
I once was redirected to a bogus site. Rob is extremely legitimate and a great person. We are here for you and others know a lot more than me.I just went through paying $1300 for a spare key and skreem....made exclusively for my vehicle because I know without them out cars will just be big paperweights. Good luck!
I once was redirected to a bogus site. Rob is extremely legitimate and a great person. We are here for you and others know a lot more than me.I just went through paying $1300 for a spare key and skreem....made exclusively for my vehicle because I know without them out cars will just be big paperweights. Good luck!