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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 11:16 AM
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Recently I drove away and started to smell some burned plastic wire. Stopped to check outside but could not get my finger on it. Later noticed that switching highbeam raised light level but could not get the lights out.
Lowbeam lights did switch on/off. At destination, ignition did not turn of the car, had to open hood and pull rcm and even battery.
Later that night connected batt. and rcm and could drive away, high beam lights can't switch off, low beam would,
Pulling multifunction increases high beam light level and indicator (indicator is on all the time
All along burnt smell.
At home could only get her out disconnecting battery.
CC roadster..

Today I opened the fusebox and found below.

What would cause this?

burnt power connector headlight switch



different focus on the connector to headlight switch

It's even worse, the pink one melted too...
 

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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 09:06 AM
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i recall one time having a customer come in with a headlamp switch that had a internal short. i replaced the headlamp switch and it was fixed. their connector was not damaged like your though but the switch housing was melted and burnt.
 

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Old Feb 24, 2019 | 02:13 PM
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THis is the most interesting electrical failure in one of these cars I've heard about - and I've been an owner for almost ten years now.

So, what you are saying is that something failed such that power is still fed to:
  • The ECM via the engine control relay.
  • The Fuel Pump via the fuel pump relay.
Who knows what else. I"m having a hard time seeing how the light switch could lead to this. But I do wonder about the security pump/module.
I'd yank the trim from the trunk area and look for moisture/water in there. Then I'd grab the service manual and try to find the connection here - I tried, but I dont see it.

This is a good one.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2019 | 09:32 AM
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This shows how bad it is.
I measure a short between VBAT and VSWITCH so this must have caused the motor to keep running.
I can't imagine the RCM playing a role here, but maybe a sticky contact there caused current to jump on a weak spot like this switch.

Now getting a replacement is a challenge. I need connectors and A 193 545 03 04 (the A 1935450004 is for US with 12 fuses) the 0504 is RHD
Mercedes part A1705450104 is confirmed to work but may signal a lamp warning on reverse (from german forum)

Inside of the light switch
 
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Old Feb 26, 2019 | 10:38 PM
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I hate to say it, but a salvadge yard is probably the way to go.
That, or go on Facebook to any one of the MANY Crossfire owner's page and buy one from someone parting a car out.

There ARE multiple switched A+ and B+ feeds to the ICM, I suppose it IS possible the ICM could have failed in such a way to make this happen.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2019 | 07:32 AM
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The MB part is ordered , used, with connectors, CF part is hard or expensive to come by.
Fingers crossed this will solve it.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2019 | 01:01 PM
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It will be interesting to see where this goes.

Please come back and tell us how things turned out.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2019 | 11:37 PM
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Contacts from inside switch come apart and short across the solder points? I never took the one I had apart.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2019 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ilrenato
The MB part is ordered , used, with connectors, CF part is hard or expensive to come by.
Fingers crossed this will solve it.
If you look on Florida Craigslist there are a few crossfire's being parted out.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2019 | 03:32 PM
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Yeah saw some on ebay, but the europe ones are slightly different.

I did a quick test pushing the molten connectors in the replacement mercedes part.
First look is good.!!!
On reverse the light for a bad reverse backup indicator comes up..

And I would like to see someones dash on low beam, does it show a default indicator on the dash or not? (Mine not currently) High beam does show blue.
The lights work, and the car works, now all I need is a warm garage or outside weather to do a full reinstall.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2019 | 04:06 PM
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There is no indicator for low beam on.
 
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