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Old Nov 9, 2023 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronman
That part number molded on there is not a valid Mercedes part number. The white sticker is on the top and yes it falls off or maybe they didn't put them on all Crossfires just like they didn't always use the same screws on the grille etc. PP stands for polypropylene the type of plastic used to make this part. I gave you 2 correct Mercedes part numbers in my previous post.

Even the part number on the dome light starts with 170 and is not a valid Mercedes part number either.
It is a valid Mercedes part number, if they decide to use that same part in a new model that is exactly the number that would appear on it, just as it has on the Crossfire. Mercedes is an efficient company and would not mould any useless number on a part.
This is obviously done so that they do not have identical parts with different part numbers on them.
The first three numbers are the car model that the part was first used on, the next three are part group for example lighting, suspension etc. the next two are the modification number and the last two are the item number. Older Mercedes cars are more random in their numbering and do not fit into the current numbering system.
All Mercedes parts have the code for the plastic material it is made from on the part moulded into it, this is in line with the noble intention that all or most plastic parts are recyclable.
 

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Old Nov 10, 2023 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by onehundred80
It is a valid Mercedes part number, if they decide to use that same part in a new model that is exactly the number that would appear on it, just as it has on the Crossfire. Mercedes is an efficient company and would not mould any useless number on a part.
This is obviously done so that they do not have identical parts with different part numbers on them.
The first three numbers are the car model that the part was first used on, the next three are part group for example lighting, suspension etc. the next two are the modification number and the last two are the item number. Older Mercedes cars are more random in their numbering and do not fit into the current numbering system.
All Mercedes parts have the code for the plastic material it is made from on the part moulded into it, this is in line with the noble intention that all or most plastic parts are recyclable.
The part number stamped on there is not a valid Mercedes part number! I already supplied the correct part number for this part.

I'd prefer you no longer reply to any of my posts, I have told you this before.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2023 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronman
The part number stamped on there is not a valid Mercedes part number! I already supplied the correct part number for this part.

I'd prefer you no longer reply to any of my posts, I have told you this before.
I will reply to anything I want to.
I do owe you an apology though, I mixed the numbers in my head when replying.
We must remember though that the SLA is made of a good few parts and each part has a number.so if you pick up an assembly you may find a number of part numbers on it. In this case we can assume that the first six numbers indicate it is used on more than one assembly. If there were two plus two more numbers after it it would indicate the version and the item number of that version.The first six numbers show that it has not been changed at all. That is how I understand the numbering system of Mercedes parts to work.
The paper label will have saved money for Mercedes by having no need to alter the 170 to a 193 and allowing the mild to stay in production without any stoppage. They would have needed parts with 170 on them even though Crossfire production had started.
The line with the 242 number in it is I assume the maker of the moulds identification number a small logo is on the left. The I and II is probably their modification numbers.
 

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Old Nov 10, 2023 | 11:02 PM
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To be clear, the number Ronman keeps pointing to is the SLA "assembly" number, which probably came on a sticker that was affixed to the bag carrying the SLA on the production line. The numbers on the parts (like PP170-267-054) that make up the assembly are valid Mercedes part numbers (obviously since they are printed right on them), but you couldn't buy them separately, so they don't use the -xx -yy number convention, but a single 3 digit number. Some available parts that were sold separately had an extra 4 digits, like the shifter **** 170-267-11-10-1A84 ( Search Results | Mercedes-Benz USA Parts (mbusa.com) Most are discontinued, but trim pieces are also available are there.) Yes, Chrysler has/had its own parts numbering system, and it probably was cheaper to use a sticker with their number on it then change the Chrysler Database pneumonics or the Mercedes factory stamp. For example, on 2004-2008 Chrysler Crossfire Transmission Shifter 5114036AA | Mopar Factory Parts, under 2005 crossfire, the part number for the SLA assembly is 5114036AA, whereas on Pelican auto parts or mbusa, the part number for a SLK320 SLA assembly is 170-267-08-24 or 170-267-11-24. Interestingly enough, pelican has the -08-24 version for sale at $620. I was confused by the PP (thanks for setting me straight on that) since reading the blogs about Mercedes numbers says the first letter should be "A" for passenger car, like the RCM is A 170 545 03 05, or the TCM is A 033 545 11 32. Maybe that convention is only for the assembly part number (?) and the plastic identifier is for the part level (?). But regardless, the fact remains that if you try to find a used SLA on ebay or on junkyard sites, most will have it listed under the PP170267054 part number since that is the most prominent number visible on the SLA.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2023 | 01:10 PM
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Then don't whine to Valk in the future if you do not like any of my posts like you did before. Apology not accepted! Nobody cares or needs a history less on how Mercedes creates their part numbers. People only care what the part number is when they need a part. Don't forget to say like usual, that this shifter is used in thousands of other cars and you can just buy it off the shelf somewhere. Lol

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You are not being clear at all. I provided the correct part number for the SLA which you did not, no idea what you mean by an "assembly number." You don't even know by now that the first letter in any Mercedes part number is to be ignored which most people already know. The part number stamped on the SLA is not a valid part number on any dealership website or even the official MbUsa parts website. It might just be for the plastic itself or for internal use only and there is another part number on the SLA which isn't a valid part number either. I have an extra SLK320 and Crossfire shifter. Mentioning the Crossfire part number is pointless since yes it is discontinued and even if it was in stock the price would be extremely high. Chrysler has 2 part numbers in their system, the Chrysler part number and corresponding Mercedes part number which is either an actual valid Mercedes part number or starts with 193 (Crossfire specific part).

I am no longer replying to this thread.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2023 | 02:51 PM
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Clear as mud.
Dam boys outstanding info just went south.
Ive got one from a Crossfire coming.
Let you know.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2023 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronman
180:


I am no longer replying to this thread.
Then it really is a memorable day.
Understanding the Mercedes numbering system confuses many, but it is good to know the benefit of what each three or two number means.
When I say off the shelf l mean it is a common part, not that you can pick it up at Walmart, but a specialty store dealing in that type of part.
By whining to Valk was it you who said I should curl up and die? Probably.
 

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Old Nov 12, 2023 | 03:05 AM
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Ronman, I never said the part numbers you supplied were invalid, I just said I couldn't find them on the part. I latter found them on the website links I put in my post. For your information, an assembly is made of parts. Each part has a part number. When you put all of the parts together to make the assembly, what part number do you use - one of the individual part numbers, or a new part number for the whole group of parts, i.e., the assembly. I went searching for a A193 stickers in my crossfire and found some affixed on the crossfire unique parts like the instrument cluster, the cigarette lighter and after a closer look, painted on the top of the SLA. The non crossfire specific parts all had mercedes part numbers like the TMU, the SKREEM, the plastic bezel around the instrument cluster, the pulse module, the pcm, the tcm, even the center console only had a mercedes part number, etc... I find it interesting that you keep saying the part number found on the part is not a valid part number. How does that work? What do the assemblers check when they go to install it - they make a guess, by feel or look. I agree, it isn't the part number for the assembly, but it is a valid part number. Maybe our misunderstanding is what does valid mean - I'm guessing to you it means what a dealership can access or sale you, to me, a valid part number is what I can use to identify individual parts if I need to replace them since the assembly is no longer available. For example, I replaced the motor in the CLP since the CLP is not available anymore. Without the part number on the motor, I would've had a hard time finding a replacement motor.


 
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Old Nov 19, 2023 | 11:41 AM
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Update, Mommas ride is fixed!

It was the solenoid in the SLA gone bad.

I received the replacement from ebay, $210. The first thing I did was compare it with mine, it was cleaner and identical. However, the solenoid on the new one was spring loaded and mine was not, so the spring in mine is broke. The spring action is what allows the shifter to return from neutral forward.

There was evidence of a previous owner spilled coke all over the place.

I dare to mention part numbers again, ahhhhh, but there are numbers on the solenoid, I don't think they are MB but just standard electronic whatever and maybe find one and fix the old SLA.

After finishing I had a few console screws left but its all done and good.

So add this to the list of fixes and thank you for all your help.


 
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Old Nov 19, 2023 | 11:56 AM
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Thanks for publishing the solution, many do not.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2023 | 01:07 PM
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Yes sir my pleasure.

I just took a closer look at the solenoid, it is a MB part # PP210 267 082
with “BINDER 40E90530A00” 12v. Initial search show nothing.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2023 | 10:32 PM
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Congratulations on getting your XF back on the road. Also, thanks for posting the part number of the solenoid. I'll check that against CLK 320 SLA solenoid part number - might give us DIY's more options in the future.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2023 | 05:28 PM
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FYI, the CLK320 SLA solenoid has the identical part number to the one you posted for the XF. It is also spring loaded in that if I manually pull the plunger out, it retracts when I let go.
# PP210 267 082 with “BINDER 40E90530A00” 12v.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2023 | 05:36 PM
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Right, its probably one of those identifiable parts that is a part of a part that we cant get by it self.

Thanks again!
 
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Old Feb 22, 2025 | 05:52 AM
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Me to same problem, key stuck can’t put it in reverse or park
 
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