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Old May 18, 2024 | 10:41 PM
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having an issue. all lights on dash are light, wing is up but the care runs fine. been told that its a grounding issue or something with the CAM module? anyone ever heard of this issue? i have pics from a mechanic who scanned it but can't fix this issue and told me he's heard of it.
 
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Old May 18, 2024 | 11:13 PM
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Do you mean the can buss? Controller area network.. That is how the modules communicate with each other. If it is. Then you might want to start checking the wiring for corrosion or damage. The pics you mentioned would help. If it shows DTC's (codes ), what are they in the order that the scanner displayed them?
 

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Old May 22, 2024 | 12:09 AM
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Old May 22, 2024 | 12:17 AM
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sorry, CAN communication. Funny the other day the car totally went back to normal for 1 day. Only check engine light was on. Tail went down. I couldn't believe it!
I noticed it when the seatbelt ringer went on. That's the best thing about all of this is that annoying bell is off too. Car still runs strong!
I wouldn't know where to begin to look for wire corrosion or damage. I'm a guitar and tube amp guy, but thank you so much for reaching out.

please if you have information or suggestions
djg333@gmail.com
thank you so much

D.
 
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Old May 22, 2024 | 04:31 PM
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Hi Bzargtar,
I had a can bus error which turned out to be a bad splice in the engine compartment. I went through a lot of troubleshooting before I found it which I documented in this post: no crank, black rectangel/square in the IC - CrossfireForum - The Chrysler Crossfire and SRT6 Resource. The easiest way to verify if your can bus has issue, is to measure the resistance of the can bus circuit at the PCM (ECM) C4 connector, between pins 1 and 11. If you back probe that connector (i.e., leave the connector connected to the PCM and touch the probes to the back of the pins in the connector) you should measure around 60 ohms. If you measure an open, a short or 120 ohms, you either have a broken wire (usually very hard to find or fix), or a bad termination in the SKREEM. If you have any questions regarding the troubleshooting steps I took, please ask.
Good Luck,
-Jerry
 
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Old May 23, 2024 | 10:05 AM
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Have a look in the trunk at the PSE. Or central locking pump.
Is it sitting in water? Its under the passenger side black foam insert encased in a soft foam.
 
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Old May 23, 2024 | 12:37 PM
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Everything you are experiencing can point to a weak battery. What I would do:

1) Do Jame's mod here:
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...le-engine.html
2) Replace the battery if it is four years or more old OR if you have allowed it to "go dead" to the point you had to charge it or use a booster battery to start the car.

Between those two items, MOST of the time (not all) the flaky wing behaves. You can have a brake controller/wheel speed sensor issue, or perhaps the Traction Control output of the RCM is flaky (but probably not, if you are not seeing a BAS/ESP light).

The same condition that causes the BCM to raise the wing can cause CAN BUS errors. In fact, the BCM will put the wing up if it's having CAN BUS communications failures; my theory (which may not have good legs) is that the default is to put the wing up if the BCM is not being updated by the Brake controller on vehicle speed.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2025 | 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by machfivecrossfire
Have a look in the trunk at the PSE. Or central locking pump.
Is it sitting in water? Its under the passenger side black foam insert encased in a soft foam.

i guess i have to remove the lining? everything seems dry in and around the jack on left side etc... right side there's nothing there unless it's under the lining i assume.

sorry for the delay thanks for the reply
 
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Old Feb 6, 2025 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bzargtar
i guess i have to remove the lining? everything seems dry in and around the jack on left side etc... right side there's nothing there unless it's under the lining i assume.

sorry for the delay thanks for the reply
You've got to rip all the trim out of the trunk to get to it. Not all that hard, really, but it helps if you have one of these, and it need not be this particular kit, there are many variations out there:


 
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Old Feb 7, 2025 | 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bzargtar
i guess i have to remove the lining? everything seems dry in and around the jack on left side etc... right side there's nothing there unless it's under the lining i assume.

sorry for the delay thanks for the reply
The CLP is located behind the right wheel well (Passenger side in U.S.).
It's wrapped in what looks like that old style yellow carpet padding foam.
 
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