i posted a thread after i got my upsolute done. i got a 'custom' tune to extract some extra horse power out and will only run on 93, not 91. i paid around $400 or $425, don't remember. i also paid to ship it, but shipping back was free.

no problems removing or reinstalling. just make sure to put markers, e.g. 1, 2, 3, 4 to mark the order in which you pull the wires out of the harness.

the difference was noticeable in my opinion and others that did before and after drives on my car. i think it was the best mod i've done to any cars i've owned and would recommend much before exhaust, cai, etc.

as with most companies, make sure the person YOU are dealing with is GOOD. a great company is only made great by the people, and there always bad people trying to take advantage of you!

 

Hmmm... I don't mean to burst your bubble but what program did your UPsolute tuner use to "extract" that extra horse power???

The tuners buy the equipment and programs from UPsolute. I would gather to say, most of them wouldn't know how to reprogram the original program they get from UPsolute if their life depended upon it. There's more to creating a program than just flashing your chip. And if they did, they'd be charging you more $$$ than the MSRP for the time it took them to modify the original program.

I had the same thing in mind before getting mine done... maybe they could squeeze some extra HP for me. I called two different tuners and visited the one where I had mine done before committing to getting the work done. Even after committing to have my car chipped he said he could not do it. If either one did they would be hanging their a** out in the wind and the parent company would take action against them let alone back any warranty. UPsolute will not stand behind the tuner that did that work if he could.

Anyway that was my experience of trying to get some extra HP and how it was explained to me.

If you go to the Upsolute website, it explains why the programs are made with the parameters they are... in short, they don't want to push the limit of the engine. It would be bad for business if they did.

You are right on one thing, the Upsolute chip for the Crossfire is $400.00 + $25.00 labor. That too is in the Upsolute web site.

 

Andrew,

I'm assuming its the metal encased componant, sits in the middle inside the box?

Thanks

 

Which Upsolute programmer have you all used? I tried to call and e-mail a guy in Atlanta and he doesn't answer his or return calls.

 

i have seen some shops that modify the fuel curve and spark on your already flashed ecu, but nothing worth paying for.

 

$400 - $500 bucks for 6-7 whp? No thanks.

 

the original tuning program is the best for now! from 215 to 235. so about 20 hp for $370, not that bad, but you can feel the difference in the car.

 

Awhile back on this forum, we actually got dyno proof. And it was a whopping 7 whp for the chip. $400 bucks for 7 whp or 8 bhp is not worth it to me.

 

I don't know what the dyno said or who provided the specs you are referring to. All I can say is that there is a definite and noticeable seat of your pants improvement between before and after.

 

I was mistaken, it is actually 9 whp and 13 wtq.

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ight=dyno+chip

Still rather just do a 50 shot for that price.

 

Yes it would void your warranty... and please do not go into that sad story about how a part can be changed and not void your warranty... we are dealing with Chrysler here folks... Chrysler will refuse to repair your car under warranty for any reason that Chrysler can find. hooah

For $400 dollars you will gain about 15 HP, go figure how much faster that'll make your Crossfire in the 1/4 mile time... that would be in your ability to drive your car hard in a 1/4 mile run... there are other factors such as air intake, exhaust, gear ratio, etc, etc determines much more then the ECU at how fast you run a 1/4 mile... HP gains without the other stuff is just "numbers."... yes I would still flash my ECU, if for no other reason then a fast kick in the pants.

As for the black box it only records "Data useful to researchers and investigators, such as delta V, driver seat belt usage, and pre-impact data", I do not believe it stores information concerning the ECU, but if I am wrong please correct me.

hooah

 

My program came from company HQ in Austria. I can't remember right now but if you search you'll find who my Upsolute dealer was.

I am not saying I got a total custom tune, but they told me an extra 1 - 3 HP were possible. We have 87, 89, and 93 gas. So I always put 93 in anyway, it was a no brainer to ask and get it done.

 

Bullseye, when you are trying to bash the Upsolute ECU for not providing enough HP gains, at least make sure that you have the right chip. The dyno results you found were for the power chip, not the Upsolute. Those are 2 different companies and 2 different chips. I have this chip installed, and i can promise you it is more than 9 hp and 13 torque.

 

Post your dyno.

 

If i had a dyno, i would be showing you, not promising you its more. But i haven't yet, and im simply saying that it is more than 9 hp and 13 torque.

 

If you don't have before & after dyno's how do you know that you are making more that 9 hp & 13 ft/lbs of torque gain? How do you know if you gained anything at all? If not a dyno graph how about before & after trap speeds from the drag strip?

Not trying to bust your chops its just that there are lots of claims for hp & torque gains that are proven inflated or non-existent once the car is strapped to the dyno.

 

I don't have a dyno sheet nor do I have plans to go to the drag strip, but I can tell you there is a definite difference after having my car chipped with UPsolute. I can't imagine a 9 hp gain would give that much seat of your pants feel.

 

Just personal opinion here, if we take there word at 20 horse power, subtract 4 horsepower for an overzealous manufacturers claim, you get 16 HP. Subtract 15% drive train loss then you have ~14 HP at the wheels. This seems to me exactly what it feels like and it probably accurate.

 

Living in the Denver area we obviously have lower level of performance, but how will running 91 octane work with the Upsolute chip, you can't get 93 octane?

 

One gallon of Toluene or Xylene in 10 gallons of 91 octane will give you your desired 93 octane.