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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 01:48 PM
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Hi Guys,

Another question for you....

Here in the UK, what Brake Pad Options do we have for both the N/A and the SRT6?

It seems Rotex Gold are a popular choice amongst the US owners but I don't have much knowledge and no experience of them from this side of the Pond.

EBC Brakes I'm well aware of and would prefer not to consider these pads due to previous experience of them so are there any alternatives?

Performance Friction?
Ferrodo?
Mintex? http://outcat-cs3.tecdoc.net/ows/en/...dexFramesetJsp
Pagid? - No listed pads for Crossfire Fitment
Rotex - http://www.buybrakes.com/rotex/
Akebono - http://www.akebonobrakes.com/index.asp

Demon Tweeks only list EBC Pads for Crossfire Fitment.

There would be used for Fast Road use and occasional track use.
 

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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 02:02 PM
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I am on the other side of the pond, but you might also want to consider Akebono Euro Ceramic Pads.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 02:06 PM
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Why didn't you like EBCs? I was gonna stick RedStuffs in my SRT coz the brake dust is driving me mad!!
 
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 02:44 PM
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Why didn't you like EBCs? I was gonna stick RedStuffs in my SRT coz the brake dust is driving me mad!!
On the road the Red Stuff never got to the correct operating temperature and therefore had zero bite from cold and had a very wooden feel to them. On track they marginally improved but then would return to there wooden feel after a few hot laps. I think I would have had a better response if I stuck the carboard box they came in onto the calipers. This was on a 300bhp Mitsubishi Evolution.

Greenstuff couldn't take the track heat and the pad material unbonded itself from the backing plates. This was on a car weighing only 850kg. (Not the EVO).

Then there was the 'Turbo Groove Discs' which were destroyed after a track day, again in a car weighing only 850kg. I upgraded to 4 pot Willwoods which were night and day compared to the previous set-up. (Quite interesting in a car without ABS).

So to sum up my EBC experience, it was dreadful and I would therefore never fit them again into any car I owned.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bmorgan
I am on the other side of the pond, but you might also want to consider Akebono Euro Ceramic Pads.

===I installed these with ss lines, no squeak, no dust and stop great====
 
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 02:59 PM
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Thanks for that - I was just about to order the RedStuff so I'll hold fire!

I really want some low dust ceramic compounds, so I'll moniter this thread with interest. I had an Elise with GreenStuffs in - they were okish for road use but still loads of dust and the Crossfire is nearly twice the weight!!

I had also considered the Rotex Gold. I've heard good reports and I believe Beeblebrox has them. It does involve getting them shipped from the states and I'm not sure you can get them for the SRT? Everything I've read about the Akebono also seems good, but again I think they are an import job!

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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bmorgan
I am on the other side of the pond, but you might also want to consider Akebono Euro Ceramic Pads.
I have found their website

Akebono Brake Corporation

They appear not to have any dealers this side of the Pond. Do they have any motorsport heritage in the USA? I believe a good brake pad is developed on the race circuit where extreme temperatures are observed. I therefore would make my choice based on what history the manufacturer has.

This is important to me when driving down a Swiss Mountain side or having a blast around the Nurburgring. Brake fade aint no joke when approaching a corner at three figure speeds and you rely on them.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 03:30 PM
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First post updated with links.

Looks like I'll consider importing in a pair of either Akebono's or Rotex Gold's. The research continues deeper.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 04:36 PM
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Im using EBC Red Stuff pads on front with drilled and slotted disks and factory pads on rear with drilled and slotted disks, car stops straight and square on a sixpence from any speed hot or cold and no dust. I have no complaints
 
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve - UK
Im using EBC Red Stuff pads on front with drilled and slotted disks and factory pads on rear with drilled and slotted disks, car stops straight and square on a sixpence from any speed hot or cold and no dust. I have no complaints
Cheers Steve, but once bitten, twice shy.

I have found an International Seller of the Rotex Gold on Ebay. Not too expensive, and therefore willing to give them a shot.

ROTEX GOLD BRAKE PADS KEVLAR FRONT & REAR CROSSFIRE : eBay Motors (item 220546998336 end time Mar-27-10 15:40:30 PDT)
 
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 02:01 PM
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I agree, Rotex Gold all round is the way to go, I was a little concerned my new disks would get "eaten up" if I fitted them to mine. The biggest benefit is getting rid of all that dust. Other job for summer is to detail the calipers and re paint the back plates and arches.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 03:31 PM
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After a bit of research I think I'm gonna go along the Rotex Gold route too. Even shipped from the States they are only about the same price as the RedStuffs.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 07:13 PM
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Rotex Gold all the way.
I fitted EBC Red Stuff as I couldn't find anyone at the time to ship Rotex here and found them still to create dust.
I eventually got them from Brakeworld as they started doing international shipping and they are superb pads.
Long lasting and they create virtually no dust at all.
Can highly recommend them.

Norrie.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Bazzer
Cheers Steve, but once bitten, twice shy.

I have found an International Seller of the Rotex Gold on Ebay. Not too expensive, and therefore willing to give them a shot.

ROTEX GOLD BRAKE PADS KEVLAR FRONT & REAR CROSSFIRE : eBay Motors (item 220546998336 end time Mar-27-10 15:40:30 PDT)
Bazzer there are several reports that e-bay sellers of Rotex Gold are fake pads, they have been reported as cheap alternatives that do not reduce teh brake dust and I personally would not buy them from e-bay. I have Rotex and imported them from the dealer in the U.S. They worked out cheaper than standard pads in the UK and they even "adjusted" the value to be below import duty. I am pleased with mine, they arrived quickly and good value, would buy again from that source.

I did a lot of research and concluded that they are likely to be the best low dust pads at normal temperatures , i.e. standard road use, not competition, for standard disks. On the EBC site you can see graphs of effectiveness versus temperature for their various products, mostly work best at higher temperatures, i.e. after heavy use.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 01:48 AM
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Bazzer there are several reports that e-bay sellers of Rotex Gold are fake pads, they have been reported as cheap alternatives that do not reduce teh brake dust and I personally would not buy them from e-bay. I have Rotex and imported them from the dealer in the U.S. They worked out cheaper than standard pads in the UK and they even "adjusted" the value to be below import duty. I am pleased with mine, they arrived quickly and good value, would buy again from that source.

I did a lot of research and concluded that they are likely to be the best low dust pads at normal temperatures , i.e. standard road use, not competition, for standard disks. On the EBC site you can see graphs of effectiveness versus temperature for their various products, mostly work best at higher temperatures, i.e. after heavy use.
Forgot to include details of where I got mine from it was TVT Design, Crossfire Performance Parts - TVT Design
 
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by beeblebrox
Bazzer there are several reports that e-bay sellers of Rotex Gold are fake pads, they have been reported as cheap alternatives that do not reduce teh brake dust and I personally would not buy them from e-bay
Do you not think the guys feedback rating and other buyers experience might have some relevance here? - 715 feedbacks and almost all of them positive and a lot of satisfied Crossfire purchasers - I think you might be being a bit paranoid. I guess ultimately you would have to ask the question of whether any source is going to be providing you with genuine components. I did see a documentary recently on Fakes which showed how much of the commercial drugs were fakes and knock offs so it's potentially an issue on a much wider scale

I guess time will tell - I'm about to experience them...and can't wait - I'll report back on my experience with them.

I've ordered a set from him after reviewing the feedback others had left and his communications in the process to date have been fantastic. Dave worked out a more realistic international postage charge for the pads and accepted a best offer I made (if others are considering buying from him then I suggest you make an offer - or just ask him for the best price when you ask him about the correct international freight price) I can see the shipping status on the USPS site and they've left the US - can't wait for them to arrive - no more weekly cleaning of the wheels!

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Forgot to include details of where I got mine from it was TVT Design, Crossfire Performance Parts - TVT Design
Doesn't look like there's much action there in terms of brake pads - nothing listed on the site
 
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Bodog
Do you not think the guys feedback rating and other buyers experience might have some relevance here? - 715 feedbacks and almost all of them positive and a lot of satisfied Crossfire purchasers - I think you might be being a bit paranoid. I guess ultimately you would have to ask the question of whether any source is going to be providing you with genuine components. I did see a documentary recently on Fakes which showed how much of the commercial drugs were fakes and knock offs so it's potentially an issue on a much wider scale

I guess time will tell - I'm about to experience them...and can't wait - I'll report back on my experience with them.

I've ordered a set from him after reviewing the feedback others had left and his communications in the process to date have been fantastic. Dave worked out a more realistic international postage charge for the pads and accepted a best offer I made (if others are considering buying from him then I suggest you make an offer - or just ask him for the best price when you ask him about the correct international freight price) I can see the shipping status on the USPS site and they've left the US - can't wait for them to arrive - no more weekly cleaning of the wheels!



Doesn't look like there's much action there in terms of brake pads - nothing listed on the site
Don't know, just going on feedback on this site with comments some folk have made that they haven't experienced reduced brake dust on some purchases on e-bay and had good experience with TVT. Their stock does appear quite variable, I had to contact them direct. I suppose I questioned how valid the feedback in e-bay was as you need to do a few miles to work out how good the reduction in brake dust is. I did experience large reductions in brake dust after fitting them with doing 500 miles a week was driving me nuts ! Hopefully this e-bay shop is fine and they work as expected.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by beeblebrox
Bazzer there are several reports that e-bay sellers of Rotex Gold are fake pads, they have been reported as cheap alternatives that do not reduce teh brake dust and I personally would not buy them from e-bay. I have Rotex and imported them from the dealer in the U.S. They worked out cheaper than standard pads in the UK and they even "adjusted" the value to be below import duty. I am pleased with mine, they arrived quickly and good value, would buy again from that source.

I did a lot of research and concluded that they are likely to be the best low dust pads at normal temperatures , i.e. standard road use, not competition, for standard disks. On the EBC site you can see graphs of effectiveness versus temperature for their various products, mostly work best at higher temperatures, i.e. after heavy use.
Cheers for the info Paul. I've decided I'll go with the Rotex and as I'm not in any particular hurry for them I'll source them from a US Dealer. Unless I visit the States in the near future where I'll buy them and bring them back in my suitcase. (Work maybe sending me back to Chicago to visit a Power Plant).
 
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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 03:23 PM
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Well, I decided to go for the Rotex Gold and they have landed in the country and avoided import tax. I clubbed together with a mate and got pads for both cars to combine the shipping cost so should recieve them from him Friday.

If the bank holiday weather stays good then I'll fit them, bed them in and report back.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 11:36 AM
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I just put Rotex Gold pads on my SRT-6 and so far I love them. They seem to be very well made, are quiet, and the stopping power is great! Plus, no dust yet!
 
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