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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by cruzinquick
I am still testing on the pressure. I have made passes from 21lbs up to 34lbs. It seems like the higher pressure works better for some reason. One night session the track wasn't that good and I lowered down the pressure and traction was worse from my first pass that night. It's completely opposite from normal slicks. The big ballon tires run like 8lbs. The only thing that concerns me is you can see that not all the tread is hitting the track. Maybe like an inch on each side doesn't have wear marks. I'll have to flatten them out and see how low they will have to be to hit. My concern is the big tires usually have bead locks on the rims to keep them from spinning and coming off the rim. We don't and I don't want to risk ruining the tire or worst from too low of pressure. So I'm awaiting curiously. If you call again, be sure to let me know.
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I got home from work and the tire were here, so I loaded them in my truck and took them over to my neighbor to look at them. He own's a machine shop named Woodruff Machine, he builds race engine's and helps the guy that owns the local 1/8th strip run it. He use to race in his younger day's, but pretty well stay's to busy building engine's and running the track. He actually sell's Hoosier tire's and does know a lot about them, he said he has had guy's ask him about these DOT DR's, but had never seen them. He and another guy that does race that just happened to be there said they felt like a DO5 compound, they both said they should sick real good and should be no wear problem's driving it to the track from where I live. He said the biggest thing to worry about was running over something because they would puncher real easy. I was going to take a picture and post them & the wheels in the back of my truck, but I can't find the camara the wife must have it with her.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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Steve, what offset are those wheels? They look like VOXX, and I only see a 40mm on discounttiredirect.com.
Sounds like a good setup as long as the offset works. I was thinking about running 18's all around with 245/40 F and 275/35 Falken Azenis RT-615, for better handling/hookup. I have had Azenis on all my cars and I love the way they perform in the curves and straight line. 17x9 with some DRs is def. the way to go for strictly drag racing, can't wait to see what you run. Good luck!
 
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 04:00 PM
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Hey guys here in my part of Indiana all I would look for is the DOT on the side of the tire. So Steve you should be safe. I think the warnings on the tires are more to cover the tire company in case you get caught out in the rain. Or if you run the tire all of the time and wear them out quickly. Heres the law from Indiana:


IC 9-19-18-1
Solid rubber tires
Sec. 1. A solid tire made of rubber on a vehicle must have rubber on the tire's entire traction surface at least one (1) inch thick above the edge of the flange of the entire periphery.
As added by P.L.2-1991, SEC.7.

<A name=IC9-19-18-2>IC 9-19-18-2
Metal tires
Sec. 2. A person may not operate or move on a highway a motor vehicle, trailer, or semitrailer having a metal tire in contact with the roadway.
As added by P.L.2-1991, SEC.7.

<A name=IC9-19-18-3>IC 9-19-18-3
Protuberances on tires
Sec. 3. (a) Except as provided in subsections (b) through (d), a tire on a vehicle moved on a highway may not have on the tire's periphery a block, stud, flange, cleat, or spike or any other protuberance of any material other than rubber that projects beyond the tread of the traction surface of the tire.
(b) Implements of agriculture may use tires having protuberances that will not injure the highway.
(c) Tire chains of reasonable proportions may be used upon a vehicle when required for safety because of snow, ice, or other conditions tending to cause a vehicle to skid.
(d) From October 1 to the following May 1, a vehicle may use tires in which have been inserted ice grips or tire studs of wear-resisting material, installed in a manner that provides resiliency upon contact with the road, with projections that do not exceed three thirty-seconds (3/32) of an inch beyond the tread of the traction surface of the tire, and constructed to prevent any appreciable damage to the road surface.
As added by P.L.2-1991, SEC.7. Amended by P.L.210-2005, SEC.30.

<A name=IC9-19-18-4>IC 9-19-18-4
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Sec. 4. The Indiana department of transportation and local authorities in their respective jurisdictions may in their discretion issue special permits authorizing the operation upon a highway of:
(1) traction engines;
(2) tractors having movable tracks with transverse corrugations upon the periphery of movable tracks; or
(3) farm tractors or implements of agriculture designed to be operated primarily in a farm field or on farm premises;
the operation of which upon a highway would otherwise be prohibited under this chapter. As added by P.L.2-1991, SEC.7. Amended by P.L.210-2005, SEC.31.


<A name=IC9-19-18-5>IC 9-19-18-5
United States Department of Transportation regulations; classification of violations
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(1) contains parts and accessories; and
(2) is equipped;
as required under regulations of the United States Department of Transportation.
(b) A person who violates this chapter commits a Class C infraction.
As added by P.L.2-1991, SEC.7.

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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SRTpowa
Steve, what offset are those wheels? They look like VOXX, and I only see a 40mm on discounttiredirect.com.
Sounds like a good setup as long as the offset works. I was thinking about running 18's all around with 245/40 F and 275/35 Falken Azenis RT-615, for better handling/hookup. I have had Azenis on all my cars and I love the way they perform in the curves and straight line. 17x9 with some DRs is def. the way to go for strictly drag racing, can't wait to see what you run. Good luck!
Yes they are VOXX and they are a 40mm offset.That would mean they would only sit out 5mm more than the OEM's. The 19X9.5 Stern wheels that I'm running on the rear are a 35mm (OEM) offset and I'm running a 20mm hubcentrical spacer behind them, so that would be a 55mm offset if I'm thinking right . I fitted the VOXX wheel on the rear of the car and they sat inward alot farther than the Stern's with the spacers. I wanted them to sit out a little more so when I ordered my lug bolt's I ordered a pair of 10mm hubcentrical spacers to go behind them. I'm sure a 40mm offset would work all the way around the car. My front Sten's are a 35mm offset too and I'm running a10mm hubcentrical spacer behind them and they are a 18X8.5 wheel with a 245/35/18 PS2 tire.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 05:22 PM
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Hey guys here in my part of Indiana all I would look for is the DOT on the side of the tire. So Steve you should be safe. I think the warnings on the tires are more to cover the tire company in case you get caught out in the rain. Or if you run the tire all of the time and wear them out quickly. Heres the law from Indiana:
Thank's bikecop, I probably wouldn't run them all the time anyway, there would be to much of a chance of having a flat. I was a little conserened about driving 12 to 15 mile's to the track though. The DR's do have a wear bar in the line's so you can tell when it's about time to buy another set .
 
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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How far are yours brand new away from the wear bar? Mine are almost down to the wear bar now. I probably have 20 passes on mine and about 50 miles of driving back and forth. That's a month and a half of racing. Don't tell me I have to order another set already?
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by cruzinquick
How far are yours brand new away from the wear bar? Mine are almost down to the wear bar now. I probably have 20 passes on mine and about 50 miles of driving back and forth. That's a month and a half of racing. Don't tell me I have to order another set already?
Cruzinquick
I got the mounting & balance job this morning, there is only about 2 to 3mm from the wear bar to the surface of the tire and the groove's are about 4 to 5mm deep. I got a bunch of pic's and one of them have a closeup of the wear bar & groove. The pic's with the rear left on the car has a 5mm spacer behind the wheel and it sit's about like OEM, I'll be putting a 10mm hubcentrical behind them. One of the pic's has the 285/35/19's on the Stern on the left, OEM on the right and the Voxx wheel with the DR's in the middle. The DR's are less than 1/4 shorter than the OEM. I have a few more pic's of the offsets I'll try to post tonight, wifey is waiting on me to go pick up the grandbabies.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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Here is a few more pic's of how the offsets measured, the first is the OEM - 2nd is the Voxx/40mm offset and the third is the 35mm stern. And one more pic from the rear.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 07:32 PM
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a little late now, but Nitto makes the NT-01 race tire. Supposed to be very sticky, 100 treadware and fairly cheap. I might have to let my infatuation with Azenis go, and to try them, suppose to not get greasy from what I have read and are softer.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 05:53 AM
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a little late now, but Nitto makes the NT-01 race tire. Supposed to be very sticky, 100 treadware and fairly cheap. I might have to let my infatuation with Azenis go, and to try them, suppose to not get greasy from what I have read and are softer.
I think I made the right choice, the guy that runs the local 1/8th mile track and a guy that races there looked at the Hoosiers for me because I wanted an expert opinion. They both said to not even do a burn out with them, to drive through the water box and just give them a quick spin to dry them off. They said no doubt that they will stick well and that if my car has the power I think it has that they would worry about something snaping, I hope the rearend holds up. Come on April .
 
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 09:20 AM
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yeah since you have a second set of wheels you made the right choice for sure. I am looking to run the same set 18's all around, on the street, at the auto-x/road course and the strip. The Nitto's seem to be the best for my application. Good luck in April!
 
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 10:30 AM
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Awesome Steve!

How did I miss this post?

Any 'street' tests yet?

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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 07:47 AM
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Awesome Steve!

How did I miss this post?

Any 'street' tests yet?

SQ
No street test yet, although if I would have had the correct lug bolts the day I got them mounted I probably wouldn't have been able to resist. It was about the warmest day we've had in a while, I think it was in the lower 40's. But there is still a lot of salt & chemicals on the roads and the car is about as clean as it gets so I'm kind of glad I didn't. I have the correct lug bolts and a pair of 10mm hubcentrical spacers that I'm going to be running behind the 17" wheels now. I couldn't order the lug bolt's & spacers till I could fit them on the car to see where they would sit. A lot of people probably don't know that you can not thread lug bolt's into the rear hubs more than about 18mm or they hit something inside the hub. The OEM bolts thread in about 16mm. The tire's are VERY sticky, when I unloaded them out of my truck and rolled them across my garage floor they were just covered with dirt & sand. I keep my floor pretty clean and couldn't believe they were that dirty, so as soon as I got them in the garage all operations stopped till I swept the floor .
 
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 08:01 AM
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I keep my floor pretty clean and couldn't believe they were that dirty, so as soon as I got them in the garage all operations stopped till I swept the floor .
lol...that's funny right there!

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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 05:21 PM
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I just ordered up some Voxx Ancona 17x9 wheels that discount tire had at BELOW COST on ebay brand new...............$88/each with free shipping. I also scored some Hoosier drag radials 275/40 17's. Here's some pics...............

 
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Moparrbust
I just ordered up some Voxx Ancona 17x9 wheels that discount tire had at BELOW COST on ebay brand new...............$88/each with free shipping. I also scored some Hoosier drag radials 275/40 17's. Here's some pics...............
Those wheels look a LOT like the stock SLK32 wheels. How are the backspacings going to work?

Great find!
 
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Those wheels look a LOT like the stock SLK32 wheels. How are the backspacings going to work?

Great find!

40mm offset................I also have a set of OEM S-Class wheels that are 16x 7 1/2 with a 46mm offset and they bolt up with over an inch between the rim and the shock absorber. I don't forsee any issues with these rims and worse case scenario I'll use some spacers.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Moparrbust
40mm offset................I also have a set of OEM S-Class wheels that are 16x 7 1/2 with a 46mm offset and they bolt up with over an inch between the rim and the shock absorber. I don't forsee any issues with these rims and worse case scenario I'll use some spacers.
Keep us posted on how they fit, and how it hooks!

Pics!

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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Moparrbust
I just ordered up some Voxx Ancona 17x9 wheels that discount tire had at BELOW COST on ebay brand new...............$88/each with free shipping. I also scored some Hoosier drag radials 275/40 17's. Here's some pics...............
Humm, just like my set up except for the style of the Voxx wheels, (great deal on the wheels). I chose the Voxx wheels that looked closest to my ST-8 Sterns, they are actually more like the ST-7 Sterns. I just wish the wheels would have been avaliable in 10" wide so I could have went with the 315 Hoosiers instead of the 275's. I think the 275's will hook up just fine, like Shawn said let us know how they do. It will be a while yet before my car come out of the garage, wind chill factors this morning here in Indiana are below 0 and calling for rain, sleet and snow for the rest of the week & weekend .
 
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 06:30 AM
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It will be a while yet before my car come out of the garage, wind chill factors this morning here in Indiana are below 0 and calling for rain, sleet and snow for the rest of the week & weekend .
That 75* air was brutal yesterday...
 
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