Continental Extreme Contact DWS... a winner in my book
Originally Posted by JHM2K
They will be going on the (future) wife's Accord once her crummy Bridgestones wear out... 
All kidding aside, I have these on mine. I thing the trailering my Crossfire to Texas from Pennsylvania messed up the front end alignment. I didn't want to spring for the full car carrier and just a tow dolly. Anyways, the front tires were worn to the belts on the inside edges, lots of positive camber. So I got these Conti's about 7 months ago. It has snowed here in Lubbock a few times since then, crazy weather and they worked very very well like John was saying. I got them mostly for wet though. Drainage is **** poor here in Lubbock. I have been here just over a year and have gone through 4 pairs of fog lights because the standing water gets so deep. These tires power though the water quite well. I have a new set stacked in storage for when I get my 17 inch wheels so that I can rotate.
The Goodyear F1-GS-D3's are absolutely great in dry times, but like I said earlier, the weather is crazy in Lubbock and I want not a good, but great all season, and these are it.
Justin
Originally Posted by Jeep2Xfire
I have a new set stacked in storage for when I get my 17 inch wheels so that I can rotate.
No trying to knock you, just wondering, after all, I am sure many ppl think my 20" rims are an abomination
Me personally, I don't see how an inch or two is gonna look silly. I mean really?? How much difference?? I'm not into the 24"" bling bling Chrome Dubs, and spinners, and all that crap. I found a set of good looking gunmetal 17s that will match the paint of the car quite well.
I think an inch, especially 2, can have a dramatic effect on the look of a vehicle. My 20's look substantially different than the 19" it replaced in the rear. Look through some galleries and check out some of the guys with 17" drag radial wheels. When I see guys with 17" DRs in the rear, IMO it looks silly, there is supposed to be at least a 19" wheel in there. I am merely trying to understand why someone would want to go this route. Is it a performance thing, are they lighter, less spinning weight? Maybe it is an economical thing, cheaper tires for sure.
I am simply curious.
I am simply curious.
Last edited by BoilerUpXFire; Jul 15, 2010 at 12:01 PM.
Actually all of those. When I bought the F1 GS D3's all 4 of them purchased, mounted, balanced, installed with tax and insurance came up to like 1700 if I remember correctly. I do NOT want to skimp on tires because they're the only thing in contact with the ground. But I don NOT want to keep forking over that kind of money being a wear item. Performance/lighter weight?? Sure I'll take that. Lowers the car a little, fine nice too. The car will be lowered to fill in the wheel wells as well.
Originally Posted by Jeep2Xfire
Actually all of those. When I bought the F1 GS D3's all 4 of them purchased, mounted, balanced, installed with tax and insurance came up to like 1700 if I remember correctly. I do NOT want to skimp on tires because they're the only thing in contact with the ground. But I don NOT want to keep forking over that kind of money being a wear item. Performance/lighter weight?? Sure I'll take that. Lowers the car a little, fine nice too. The car will be lowered to fill in the wheel wells as well.
And, it goes without saying that you'll definitely notice a decrease in responsiveness/steering feel.
The only reason folks go with 17's in the rear is for sidewall flex... which, in drag-racing, is advantageous.
When I go with my next set of wheels, I'm going to stay true to the 18/19 stagger, as the engineers designed it. I realize you can fit bigger wheels and tires, and live to tell about it... but the suspension components, spring rates, and shock dampening all was designed around the weights of the 18/19 stagger. Once those weights change drastically, so should the other values in the entire car to compensate. No doubt that lighter would be more desirable than heavier; after all, it's simply that much less rotational mass that you have to bring up to speed, turn, and stop.
But... sidewall rigidity shouldn't suffer in the name of weight and frugality. Based on that math, 16" wheels/tires are even lighter, and significantly cheaper. You might even be able to get a set for $400.
As for me, I'll stick with what the engineers set forth as precedent.
Yeah, but when I worked at Quadratec, on of the vendors was Centric, who owns StopTech. I picked up a StopTech Big Brake kit for a steal.. My "industry discount" for all 4 corners were just over 2200$ shipped. Only problem was for me that the car was in storage while I was in school in Arizona and then when I moved to Texas, I didn't bring the kit with me, they're still in Delaware at my parents house. 17" wheels is the smallest wheel I can run with those calipers. So 17's it is.
I totally agree with you, John. I had Conti Extreme Contacts on my Eclipse. And I drove that car like I stole it - rain or shine - snow or not. They are great performing tires. Good grip when hot or cold. They had very reasonable grip even in deep snow. I highly recommend these tires.
I can also recommend anyone stays away from Sumitomo HTR Z III tires. They suck. As soon as I smoke them off the rears of the Crossfire I'll be looking at some Contis to replace them. I don't need to go with all-seasons on my XF since I store it over the winter, or I would be putting Extreme Contacts on.
I can also recommend anyone stays away from Sumitomo HTR Z III tires. They suck. As soon as I smoke them off the rears of the Crossfire I'll be looking at some Contis to replace them. I don't need to go with all-seasons on my XF since I store it over the winter, or I would be putting Extreme Contacts on.
Originally Posted by Jeep2Xfire
Yeah, but when I worked at Quadratec, on of the vendors was Centric, who owns StopTech. I picked up a StopTech Big Brake kit for a steal.. My "industry discount" for all 4 corners were just over 2200$ shipped. Only problem was for me that the car was in storage while I was in school in Arizona and then when I moved to Texas, I didn't bring the kit with me, they're still in Delaware at my parents house. 17" wheels is the smallest wheel I can run with those calipers. So 17's it is.
As far as the prices you paid, I am a little shocked. I can find (if I look high and low) a nice set of Falken 452's (the tires I run) for around $1,000 a set. Mine are pretty rare sizes as well, 225/30-20 and 275/30-20. I have heard of many people buying good tires for $600-$700 in the OEM sizes, but $1700 is absurd.
Good luck with the swap, and please post some pics when done. I will eat my words if it looks good, but I am skeptical...
Haven't been around in a long time. Really busy after a complete change in careers at 55 (now 56). Today I put "the last set of this tire in the country" on my rears, as my wear bars on the OEM tires were just starting to show, and Ill probably need to drive my baby this winter. We'll see.
In any case, I researched these on TireRack.com, but they were backordered. Contacted DiscountTire and they claimed they had stock (they didn't), and they offered a whopping $3 off per tire over the TireRack price. Since I needed mounting and balancing, and I have a DiscountTire 3 blocks from my office, I took their offer. Subsequently to waiting for the tires to arrive (from a store in Arizona), my wife obtained a $25 coupon on 2 tires from her company, which sponsors the CarCareOne credit card accepted at DiscountTire.
Went in this morning, 8AM, and I was out the door before 8:30, even with applying for a new CarCareOne card to get 6 months with no interest (if paid in full). At first, I really couldn't believe what I was feeling...and not hearing. I always thought the Crossfire with the OEM Continentals road smooth, and decently quiet. But as others have posted, I notice a substantial decrease in road noise, and they are baby-butt smooth. And that's with only the rears changed. I can't imagine how much difference 4 tires would make. I didn't make 20K miles on the originals, although I may have eked out 3 or 4 more months on the rears, but these tires are 540AA, Speed Rating Z tires, with a manufacturer's warranty of 50,000 miles. At this rate, this could very well be the last pair of rears I buy for the Crossfire, and I may just go ahead and get the fronts ordered now, since they may take months to stock. In any event, the fronts look like they could last another 20-30K miles.
Anyway, I was excited about these tires, and wanted to share the news, but it's pretty clear that others are already enjoying the sweetness of this rubber. I haven't put on a dozen miles yet, but I am so very impressed at this point. I haven't even put them on the interstate yet, so I have a lot of exciting times ahead.
Aloha!!
In any case, I researched these on TireRack.com, but they were backordered. Contacted DiscountTire and they claimed they had stock (they didn't), and they offered a whopping $3 off per tire over the TireRack price. Since I needed mounting and balancing, and I have a DiscountTire 3 blocks from my office, I took their offer. Subsequently to waiting for the tires to arrive (from a store in Arizona), my wife obtained a $25 coupon on 2 tires from her company, which sponsors the CarCareOne credit card accepted at DiscountTire.
Went in this morning, 8AM, and I was out the door before 8:30, even with applying for a new CarCareOne card to get 6 months with no interest (if paid in full). At first, I really couldn't believe what I was feeling...and not hearing. I always thought the Crossfire with the OEM Continentals road smooth, and decently quiet. But as others have posted, I notice a substantial decrease in road noise, and they are baby-butt smooth. And that's with only the rears changed. I can't imagine how much difference 4 tires would make. I didn't make 20K miles on the originals, although I may have eked out 3 or 4 more months on the rears, but these tires are 540AA, Speed Rating Z tires, with a manufacturer's warranty of 50,000 miles. At this rate, this could very well be the last pair of rears I buy for the Crossfire, and I may just go ahead and get the fronts ordered now, since they may take months to stock. In any event, the fronts look like they could last another 20-30K miles.
Anyway, I was excited about these tires, and wanted to share the news, but it's pretty clear that others are already enjoying the sweetness of this rubber. I haven't put on a dozen miles yet, but I am so very impressed at this point. I haven't even put them on the interstate yet, so I have a lot of exciting times ahead.
Aloha!!
I have to agree with everyone on these tires. I put 4 new ones on a week ago. Just finished a 700 mile trip and they work great. Hope I get the wear that is advertised.
Oz
Oz
Originally Posted by JHM2K
Chris L : Yes, these have a treadwear rating above 500. Guaranteed for 50,000 miles, and they're pro-rated if you happen to chew through them faster. They're also advertised to yield a few extra MPG, although that's a claim I'm not worried about observing in the slightest. Even if they DID, my foot is too heavy 
My local shop gave me prices today:
four of the Original Conti Touring Contacts that came with the car: $1061.00
Four of the Extreme Concact DWS's: $847.12
These are CHEAPER than the tires the car came with? I'd never have guessed that, based on the opening post in this thread!
Originally Posted by pizzaguy
That would be nice, since my original Conti's are about finished - with 28,700 on them.
My local shop gave me prices today:
four of the Original Conti Touring Contacts that came with the car: $1061.00
Four of the Extreme Concact DWS's: $847.12
These are CHEAPER than the tires the car came with? I'd never have guessed that, based on the opening post in this thread!
My local shop gave me prices today:
four of the Original Conti Touring Contacts that came with the car: $1061.00
Four of the Extreme Concact DWS's: $847.12
These are CHEAPER than the tires the car came with? I'd never have guessed that, based on the opening post in this thread!
Don't wait, GET 'EM!!!!
Unless you're getting a different roadster
dont forget john my 32 came oem with 17" rims 7.5 width in the front 8.5 in the rear. 225/45 -17 front 245/40-17 rear with y rating good to speeds up to 186 mph.
Last edited by 32krazy!; Aug 14, 2010 at 07:42 PM.
Just a heads up for anyone considered these tires and buying them through the tirerack (and likely other places). I ordered a set of 4 of these for my crossfire today. When I spoke with Wes he said that he has a shipment of the OEM sized rear tires coming in tomorrow, but after that they are back ordered indefinitely.
So if you want a set of these, you might want to act on it sooner rather than later.
So if you want a set of these, you might want to act on it sooner rather than later.
Or they could upsize a bit... 
The 285/30 fit perfectly on my OEM wheels, and offered a bit more protection. So close to factory OD, it's scary...
The 285/30 fit perfectly on my OEM wheels, and offered a bit more protection. So close to factory OD, it's scary...
I recently put the DWS on the fronts. So far so good. I took a nice drive this past weekend hitting some pretty curvy roads and no squealing. These are much better than the General UHPs that I had before. I do hope that these tires will last more than 13,000 miles.


