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Old Feb 13, 2025 | 10:21 PM
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Can you run a 66.66 bore on wheels?
 

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Old Feb 14, 2025 | 11:07 AM
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Crossfire and Mercedes wheels are hub centric/center bore 66.6mm.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2025 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Hdhillbilly
Can you run a 66.66 bore on wheels?
Yes
 
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Old Feb 15, 2025 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by zip439
Crossfire and Mercedes wheels are hub centric/center bore 66.6mm.
sorry zip but the crossfire and most Mercedes have a hub bore of 66.56

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Yes
I am not sure but from .56 to 66 is .10 that divided by 2 is .5 on each side
and if slides over to one side then the Lug bolts take all the pressure if it was me (drag racing I would not do ir ,
,,have snapped off a few lug bolts in my time they do have a hub centric to make it jim
 
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Old Feb 15, 2025 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by amx1397
sorry zip but the crossfire and most Mercedes have a hub bore of 66.56

I am not sure but from .56 to 66 is .10 that divided by 2 is .5 0.050 on each side
and if slides over to one side then the Lug bolts take all the pressure if it was me (drag racing I would not do it,
,,have snapped off a few lug bolts in my time they do have a hub centric to make it jim
There has to be some clearance in order for the wheel to fit over the hub. Otherwise, we as DIYers wouldn't be able to slide the wheel onto the hub. Is the 0.050 all around adequate? It most certainly is but may be just a little over than desired. Hard to tell with wheel manufacturers as to how much clearance is allowed and/or acceptable. Most machining practices would be to make the hub shaft tolerance +0 /-? and the wheel bore -0 / +?. Knowing what the mysterious (?) tolerance is key to a proper fitment between Hub & Bore. Is a hub-centric spacer available for a wheel bore of 66.66 with a hub bore of 66.56? I doubt it - too fragile! Most hub centric rings applicable for our wheels are listed at having an inner diameter 66.6 mm, which implies total clearance of 0.040 inches for the hub diameter. And that assumes everything is 'dead-on' otherwise, and I'm betting it isn't.

Machining practices & capabilities have improved significantly over the years. Some years back, I was in a precision machine shop doing the final inspection on an engraved calender roll (1 meter dia x 6 meters long). That same precision machine shop was performing a final grind on a US Navy submarine drive shaft and they were holding tolerances out to the 6th decimal space! (Note: Had to 'run silent' when submerged.) Hard to believe that capability existed and harder yet to believe it could be measured! Of course, the entire grinder was encased in a wooden box structure for secrecy & security.
 

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Old Feb 15, 2025 | 01:58 PM
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The Crossfire and most Mercedes have a hub bore of 66.56
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Old Feb 16, 2025 | 12:19 PM
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To get some better clarification on hub & wheel bore tolerances, I found the below on a BMW Forum and I think this highlights the tolerances between hub diameter & wheel hub bore.
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'Does anyone know what the tolerance is for hub bore on OEM BMW wheels? I searched the internet and came up with one answer but the poster did not state where these numbers came from:

hub tolerance: 72.48-72.43mm
wheel tolerance: 72.54-72.59mm

I noticed a lot of aftermarket wheels say they have a 72.6mm bore which is at the high limit of what I show here. I just purchased a set of wheels and I measured the hub bores with a bore gage and measured 72.69-72.72mm for all 4 wheels. If the spec I showed above is correct than these wheels are out of OEM spec. If the spec I showed above is incorrect then I need to know if my wheels are within spec.'
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Based on the above figures, it is possible to have a clearance tolerance of the following:

Max = 72.59-72.43 = 0.16 mm
Min = 72.54-72.48 = 0.06 mm

So when we see a hub bore of 66.56 mm for wheels that fit our Crossfires, that is typically a nominalxsize figure.

So feedback to the Thread Starter, the wheels should fit fine - IMO.
 

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