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Anyone ever put a small block 360 with a 904 trans in a crossfire?

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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 01:23 PM
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Yeah I just remember seeing the bay and I was just in awe at how much work someone put into making that poor excuse of an engine (IMHO) fit in there lol.
True, the first gen 5.7 Hemi was a bit watered down for the times at 340-ish horsepower (depending on the packaging). And 2006 was not a grand year for the LX platform. Compare that to the 390hp they churn out of the Eagle 5.7 nowadays though.

Having owned a 2008 SRT, I can affirm that it certainly had no issue making power! And the vehicle itself held up just fine till we parted ways.

Not arguing, just kinda throwing that out there.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 01:25 PM
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But- but- but the OP wanted his Crossfire to be all Chrysler. What about all them Diamler/Chrysler parts in the Chrysler product line?

I mean really, the auto industry is so incestuois. It's all just branding labels anymore.
 

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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 01:33 PM
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But- but- but the OP wanted his Crossfire to be all Chrysler. What about all them Diamler/Chrysler parts in the Chrysler product line?

I mean really, the auto industry is so incestuois. It's all just branding labels anymore.

Absolutely true. It's not just the engines either. The LX chassis is based off of the W211 Mercedes chassis as I'm sure we're all aware by now. The communications bus is Mercedes (with some tweaks) and heck, even the WK1 Jeep was based off of the older ML body and electrics.

So for the OP, the short answer is "no", it has not been done and unfortunately, it's just not realistic, perhaps even impossible.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 01:53 PM
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True, the first gen 5.7 Hemi was a bit watered down for the times at 340-ish horsepower (depending on the packaging). And 2006 was not a grand year for the LX platform. Compare that to the 390hp they churn out of the Eagle 5.7 nowadays though.

Having owned a 2008 SRT, I can affirm that it certainly had no issue making power! And the vehicle itself held up just fine till we parted ways.

Not arguing, just kinda throwing that out there.
I had just read that the Hemi's weren't doing so great come 90K+ miles. Not sure about the newer ones or the SRT's but I wasn't impressed with the 06 R/T I drove and the doubts about reliability once older had me worried. My wife works 35 miles away so we rack up miles quick on our family car. It's ok though, my wife is really diggin the 03-06 E55's
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 02:33 PM
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Absolutely true. It's not just the engines either. The LX chassis is based off of the W211 Mercedes chassis as I'm sure we're all aware by now. The communications bus is Mercedes (with some tweaks) and heck, even the WK1 Jeep was based off of the older ML body and electrics.

So for the OP, the short answer is "no", it has not been done and unfortunately, it's just not realistic, perhaps even impossible.
And there you have it. It is just not a realistic swap IMO. So one should do it only to prove it can be done. Otherwise, what is the benefit?

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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 06:42 PM
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I bought the crossfire with the intentions of building a hot rod. I'm not lookin to produce insane amount of horsepower or crazy speeds, my father and i are carburetor fans to the max, im not even gonna make this motor fuel injected. im building it to make a lot of noise with a really rumpy cam. its not gonna be pretty and supercharged like everything else. you can believe me or not but you dont have to follow everyone else and just put a mercedes motor in these crossfires. one day i hope to put a tube chassis in it and make it strictly a drag car. i know that itll never be a true chrysler only vehicle but itll be one of a kind. anything can be done if you put your mind to it for sure.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 06:45 PM
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I bought the crossfire with the intentions of building a hot rod. I'm not lookin to produce insane amount of horsepower or crazy speeds, my father and i are carburetor fans to the max, im not even gonna make this motor fuel injected. im building it to make a lot of noise with a really rumpy cam. its not gonna be pretty and supercharged like everything else. you can believe me or not but you dont have to follow everyone else and just put a mercedes motor in these crossfires. one day i hope to put a tube chassis in it and make it strictly a drag car. i know that itll never be a true chrysler only vehicle but itll be one of a kind. anything can be done if you put your mind to it for sure.
Well then, have at it. Chop away. 'Cause nobody here has done what you are suggesting.

We thought you were asking for, and we arrogantly presumed, wanted advice. Our bad.

Good luck with it and have fun.

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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 07:05 PM
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i agree. thank you at least one of you purists understand haha
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 07:10 PM
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All we're saying is that it hasn't been done before. What's been done before was difficult and fairly expensive to figure out. Good luck. Dream big, no harm in wanting, but do lots of research after the dreaming. It could go bad if you don't.

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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 07:25 PM
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my father and i have tons of experience which is definitely needed. it wont be a high dollar car for sure its definitely gonna decrease the value and im not even planning to sell it like ever haha. its gonna be fun for sure though and itll be one of a kind for sure. i will make sure i put it all over the site when its in progress and complete
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 07:33 PM
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My father gave me tons of good advice when I was, ahem, younger. I rarely took it but he was always right. Talk it through with yours and if you do it please post all the details or or or ELSE. J/K but really, every door opened is another choice. Who am I kidding. I think your nuts!

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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 07:38 PM
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haha trust me building this thing is gonna be huge when it finally hits and is finished
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by pv2haisch
I want an all Chrysler vehicle.
I think you're setting yourself up for failure, frankly.

Nobody is saying you can't transplant any item into the body, hell put a frame and 9" lift under it and go mud bogging if that's what suits you.

The point is, based on what your wrote, it is an actual impossibility. The chassis is Mercedes, the suspension components, interior electronics, etc., all Mercedes.

All of that aside, no matter what you end up doing with it, nothing beats wrench time with your best friend. Be sure and keep us posted!
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 07:44 PM
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i disagree man it aint impossible. itll be done within the next 2 years for sure. and i promise ill prove everyone wrong. itll get done no questions about it.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 07:46 PM
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Feel free to UPS all those crap GM products to my front door.. Address is one PM away.. Headers to fit an Avalanche and high flow exhaust for same will be most welcomed..
That would be easy. You willing to pay shipping on a package of air? Thats the total amount of GM products that I currently own, and will ever own. The perfect amount if you ask me!
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 07:48 PM
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i disagree man it aint impossible. itll be done within the next 2 years for sure. and i promise ill prove everyone wrong. itll get done no questions about it.
Dropping a carbed engine and completely stand alone trans into a crossfire is easy. The hardest part will be having an adapter made to bolt a standard driveline to the differential.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 07:52 PM
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dum dum dummmmmmm finally someone with a head on their shoulders! yeah im gonna have to get the drive shaft cut and balanced. and one day ill put my 8 and 3/4 rear end pulled from a plymouth a while back into it. anything can be done people you just gotta get your head in gear.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 08:05 PM
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dum dum dummmmmmm finally someone with a head on their shoulders! yeah im gonna have to get the drive shaft cut and balanced. and one day ill put my 8 and 3/4 rear end pulled from a plymouth a while back into it. anything can be done people you just gotta get your head in gear.
Easy pal. we all know "anything" can be done. Some of us were once young and foolish, some are now foolish and think we are young.
Most wouldn't mate a German Shepard to a Pomeranian on purpose. Not because it is impure but because the results would be nothing more than unique. But have at it.

When it barks, let us know what you got. Yes, many of us are honestly interested in the results.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 08:26 PM
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i know that itll never be a true chrysler only vehicle but itll be one of a kind. anything can be done if you put your mind to it for sure.
Hey they make nice looking stretch limo's too.. there's a photo shop one here somewhere..
 

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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 09:56 PM
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trust me everyone, i live an hour from don garlits museum. this thing is gonna be at everyone mopar meet from now on afterward!
 
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