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Anyone ever put a small block 360 with a 904 trans in a crossfire?

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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 10:02 PM
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Many of us are curious about your success. Let us know when you get there.

Meanwhile, I'm sure some "purists" might want the parts you toss away. List them in Parts for Sale and help reduce the cost of your swap.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 10:20 PM
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very good idea haha thanks for that!
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 11:41 PM
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I bought the crossfire with the intentions of building a hot rod. I'm not lookin to produce insane amount of horsepower or crazy speeds, my father and i are carburetor fans to the max, im not even gonna make this motor fuel injected. im building it to make a lot of noise with a really rumpy cam. its not gonna be pretty and supercharged like everything else. you can believe me or not but you dont have to follow everyone else and just put a mercedes motor in these crossfires. one day i hope to put a tube chassis in it and make it strictly a drag car. i know that itll never be a true chrysler only vehicle but itll be one of a kind. anything can be done if you put your mind to it for sure.

Sort of sounds like something Carrol Shelby said over 50 years ago.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 09:48 AM
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anything can be done people you just gotta get your head in gear.
Lmao. . . Some people on this forum have done things you would struggle deeply to, if ever understand.

In any case, you want a Chrysler engine, trans and all that to work. I would reccomend Haltech for the stand alone ECU. If you run carb, then you have quite a lot to figure out. Either direction and you can kiss your seat heater, wing, instrument cluster, A/C, all good bye. Any electronic component inside and out is controlled by our body control module. The body control module, PCM, TCU, and KI are all tied together. That covers pretty much everything the car has to offer. Sure you could run bypasses for some but they will never all work if you ditch even one module. Just a heads up.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 09:59 AM
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Anything is possible.. Just close your eyes and believe!



 

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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 10:05 AM
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Well, it crossed my mind to strip one down to bare bones and put my JUNK Chevy drive train in there. But, after you see the ton of wiring to pull and a gutted dash, door panels, it brings back memories of building pro stocks working for Norm Paddock who now lives near Don Garlits as well, lol. You end up building a whole new chassis, and only use the panels from the XF. A lot of metal work to bring it altogether. You could drive it stripped if just for the track. But to put down any real power, a tubed chassis, and just the shell of the XF would net you a pretty light gasser. Definitely a wheel stander... It had crossed my mind to do a project like that, then I woke up from that dream and came to my senses. I can buy just about any drag car out there a lot cheaper and whatever power I want. Good luck kid...hopefully Dad will wake up from his dream as well. Look on the back pages of your NHRA magazine. Plenty of drag cars to buy. A whole hell of a lot less work.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sk8erjosh09
Lmao. . . Some people on this forum have done things you would struggle deeply to, if ever understand.

In any case, you want a Chrysler engine, trans and all that to work. I would reccomend Haltech for the stand alone ECU. If you run carb, then you have quite a lot to figure out. Either direction and you can kiss your seat heater, wing, instrument cluster, A/C, all good bye. Any electronic component inside and out is controlled by our body control module. The body control module, PCM, TCU, and KI are all tied together. That covers pretty much everything the car has to offer. Sure you could run bypasses for some but they will never all work if you ditch even one module. Just a heads up.
Yeah I know. The carb is there for the rump. I'm not worried about ac. I live in southern florida and I literally never use my ac. Yeah I know theres some difficult challenges up ahead but this is definitely happenin!
 
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by oledoc2u
Well, it crossed my mind to strip one down to bare bones and put my JUNK Chevy drive train in there. But, after you see the ton of wiring to pull and a gutted dash, door panels, it brings back memories of building pro stocks working for Norm Paddock who now lives near Don Garlits as well, lol. You end up building a whole new chassis, and only use the panels from the XF. A lot of metal work to bring it altogether. You could drive it stripped if just for the track. But to put down any real power, a tubed chassis, and just the shell of the XF would net you a pretty light gasser. Definitely a wheel stander... It had crossed my mind to do a project like that, then I woke up from that dream and came to my senses. I can buy just about any drag car out there a lot cheaper and whatever power I want. Good luck kid...hopefully Dad will wake up from his dream as well. Look on the back pages of your NHRA magazine. Plenty of drag cars to buy. A whole hell of a lot less work.
Yeah you're right I could buy any car out there but then what fun would it be when I look at my car knowing someone else built it. Wake up from a dream? Lol sorry I wanna do somethin else then build yet ANOTHER chevy that literally helen keller could build.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by pv2haisch
Yeah I know. The carb is there for the rump. I'm not worried about ac. I live in southern florida and I literally never use my ac. Yeah I know theres some difficult challenges up ahead but this is definitely happenin!
Well I wish you the best of luck.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 04:24 PM
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It could just be me but, I think you were gaining a little respect until your last few posts. Now you sound about 12 years old.

Go build you dream without all the trash talk and chest bangin'. Then come back with something real.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 04:38 PM
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Well, I don't get it but I'm willing to give it a slight chance. Why build a rat rod out of a Crossfire? I can't imagine it being cool, just …. confusing. But hey, I've done strange before, so I'm trying to constrain my true thoughts on the matter.

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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
It could just be me but, I think you were gaining a little respect until your last few posts. Now you sound about 12 years old.

Go build you dream without all the trash talk and chest bangin'. Then come back with something real.
Well Franc.. it's at least different than the ricer club and "I can tune that car in 5 minutes with my I-phone.."

 
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 04:43 PM
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Well, I don't get it but I'm willing to give it a slight chance. Why build a rat rod out of a Crossfire? I can't imagine it being cool, just …. confusing. But hey, I've done strange before, so I'm trying to constrain my true thoughts on the matter.

Les
I just hope he lets us know when this starts.. Maybe like at 9:00 that night we can all gather here for a candlelight vigil memorial or something.. One less Crossfire..
 
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 05:32 PM
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Well Franc.. it's at least different than the ricer club and "I can tune that car in 5 minutes with my I-phone.."

True that!

A lot of kids his age would just put a fart can on it and go pick a fight with a Ford Mustang GT. He is, at least, doing something requiring skill and effort.

I agree with the candle light vigil. At least he is not murdering an SRT.

But for all he must do to get a running vehicle, why not salvage a few totaled cars for parts and bolt them to the tbe tube frame around his Mopar driveline.
 

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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 05:52 PM
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I would agree.. do the homework.. find a "Dodge" with the same wheel base and width as close as possible.. rip the body off and set a salvage yard special on top of it.. Let the chest beating begin.. Shout in the street "It's ALL Dodge"..
 
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 08:23 PM
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He can build whatever he wants. It's his money. But after spending some time underneath the car, and thinking...just isn't worth the effort to me. Too many obsticles. Not a lot of room as it is down the tunnel. Rear end needs a lot of cutting and beefing up. You have to steal a car in order to justify all the trashing you have to do to get to where you need to be. I have found some pretty good buys on track car lately, without the motors and trans. Sometimes I think, buy an old '65 vette track car, and add my own goodies and go play again, and sell the XF's... But there is just something about the XF's that are different. Not ready to give up yet. Good luck kid, build away, just post photos or it didn't happen.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmiata
I would agree.. do the homework.. find a "Dodge" with the same wheel base and width as close as possible.. rip the body off and set a salvage yard special on top of it.. Let the chest beating begin.. Shout in the street "It's ALL Dodge"..
Crossfire- Length-159. 8" Width-69.5". Wheelbase- 94.5"
Viper GTS-Length-175". Width-76.66". Wheelbase- 98.8"
AMX-------Length-176". Width- 75.2". Wheelbase-- 97.0"
 
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by pv2haisch
trust me everyone, i live an hour from don garlits museum. this thing is gonna be at everyone mopar meet from now on afterward!
Because you are so close to that museum it all makes sense now. I live an hour from the Ontario Museum with fossils and bones in it, so I guess that qualifies me to try some mammoth task as well.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 05:19 AM
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Yes i have ! A 451 inch small with 600 plus no on my enginestand just waiting.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by onehundred80
Because you are so close to that museum it all makes sense now. I live an hour from the Ontario Museum with fossils and bones in it, so I guess that qualifies me to try some mammoth task as well.
Sorry I wanna do somethin that chrysler should've done when they built the damn crossfire and not put a **** *** 6 cylinder in it. No one here has answered my question. All I asked was has anyone ever put a small block 360 in this thing? Not should I do it? Or would it be hard? Of course its gonna be hard. Sorry I don't wanna put a stupid eurotrash motor in a car that should've had more displacement in it anyway.
 
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