After searching and searching on this forum, I can't find a part number for the SKREEM module for a 2005 XF Limited Coupe, NA. If you know the correct part number, please let me know. I checked ebay and they have everything from transmission control modules to door modules, to seat warmer modules, but no listing for a SKREEM unit. I thought that if I could get the correct part number I could try to find one with that number. Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't SKREEM stand for Sentry Keyless Remote Module. Let me know.

Thanks for your help,

Jim

I have one right here, Mercedes # 170 820 18 26, Siemens # 5WK4 8698.
On ebay they are called a door module, if they found out what they cost new the price would rocket up in no time.
I have two odd spares, they cost less than $40 each.

180 - Thanks for the part number. I wanted to let you know, I just looked up "Consumer Protection Agency" and found several blurps on the subject. There is reference to sales receipts, company names, dates of purchase, and so on. My original thought was to find out if we, or anyone, could file a complaint with this agency. We would have to have a company name. From what I read, it seems like most information is geared toward "after purchase" problems. Perhaps you, or someone else, would know who and how to contact to stop this problem now.

There has to be some protection for us against price gouging. I realize that a company can charge what they want and the buyer has the right to refuse to purchase. Still, there has to be some protection against outright price gouging. I know that drug company's have been called on the carpet for 100%, and 200% price increases and have been made to, or shamed into, reducing prices. Seems like that would apply for us as well. If you are aware of any agencies that can protect against this, please let me know. As I see it, we have a stumbling block with out having a company name. This is where I thought Rob at "Needswings" could help us out.

Your thoughts are appreciated, and if we can get this information going on the website, maybe others will have some good input, if enough people see this.

Jim

180 - tried to find the SKREEM module with the part number that you gave me. Found a part that has the number 170 820 15 26 but couldn't find any with the last four of 18 26. Couldn't find any with the Siemens part number either. Most of the modules that are listed under "Chrysler Crossfire SKREEM modules" start with the number 190. If you have any idea's that I can pursue, let me know.

Thanks,

Jim

Here is an eBay search for the SKREEM module 170 820 18 26. CLICK
Video of Skreem replacement showing the part number of the module as sold by NeedsWings. CLICK

180 - Thanks - found it. I guess I just don't know how to press the right buttons.

Jim

180 - I forgot to ask you if there is a difference in modules for the automatic transmission cars and for the standard shift models, and the coupe's and for the roadsters. Mine is a 05 Limited Coupe with the automatic transmission. I keep feeling like I read somewhere on this forum that a replacement SKREEM module should come from a matching transmission car. Can you enlighten me on this.

Thanks,

Jim

Buying a used SKREEM module won't help you. You need one (new) programmed with your code in it. No one seems to believe it is possible to wipe the donor car's code and insert yours. Chrysler controls this code - I don't think it can even be inserted by the dealer. That's why Needswings needs proof of ownership like a copy of current, valid registration and your DL. I believe they submit this info to Chrysler or MOPAR who then programs it and ships it to Needswings.

Josh will clone your working SKREEM for $300 I think it is. If he can do it others can as well, I believe one such company has been mentioned here. Give him a used SKREEM, your SKREEM and $300 and you have a spare, there obviously is some risk to your existing SKREEM I would imagine.

The SKREEM module.

Jim - if you look at the Needswings Skreem page you will see a video where they hold up the part and you can clearly see the numbers. I think you can still order from them but no ETA for delivery. That's why I'm trying to get FCA to provide them. Unless someone knows something I don't, a used one won't help you without your secret code number installed. This scenario reminds me of working for the DIA in Berlin back in the sixties. Maybe my top secret crypto clearance from those days will help with FCA, but I doubt it.

Onehundred80 and all... I just got this answer back from the UK:

Good afternoon.


Thank you for your enquiry.


We can carry out a permanent Immobiliser bypass on your Crossfire ECU. In order to carry out this service we will require your Engine ECU and Immobiliser Box.


The cost for this service is £349.00 + return shipping. We usually carry out this service within 24 hours.


When the work is complete you can either call and make a payment on a card over the phone or pay via a bank transfer.


Shipping to Us:
Please check with your postal services the best way to send your goods. Sometimes the quicker delivery services can cause delays this end because of import duties. We can not release any goods until we have received the import costs and this can take anything up to 14 working days. If you use USPS they will transfer your parcel to Royal Mail which means we will receive the import duty cost on delivery.
Please Note: If any import duties are occurred these will be added to your final bill.


Shipping To You:
We use Royal Mail International Signed & Tracked and this takes 5-7 working days and costs approximately £27.00 to USA. We can return your goods by whichever services you prefer but the cost will be higher.


If you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact us.

Kind Regards

Sarah Winsley
www.ecudecode.co.uk

ECU Decode Ltd
2 Summer Road
Westbury
Wiltshire
BA13 3HU
England
Tel 01373 302412


Seems more problems with the tax and postal people than with the actual work. Maybe they should open a subsidiary here in the US, teach their method to some knowledgeable person here and get a royalty, rather than go through all the rigamarole with shipping and customs. Easy enough to find customers for the service here, via the Forum.

Sooo, if you were to get a module from another car, you would need the whole system, key,key ring and skreem to make the system operate.?

YOu can transplant ALL of the below and get away with it:

ECM
SKREEM
Keys

If you do this, the electronic VIN changes to the VIN of the car the parts came from. THIS means that you may not be able to pass an emissions test, as the VIN won't match the registration.
Just something to keep in mind.

Odd they need the SKREEM. If they are going to remask the ECU to ignore the routine where it interrogates the SKREEM for startup permission, seems like they could do that with just the ECU.
I wonder what, and how, they are doing this. And yes, seems like somewhere over here could have figured this out by now. Not me, of course, but someone.

In doing this, or attemting to, you are going up against the mb engineers that invented this thing. I think that is risky as the krauts are, if anthing, redundant. There may be other domnsides such as the vin/emissions thing mentioned above. Don't think i would want to get into that situation. I prefer getting fca to rovide the damn part, in plug and play condition, ready to go. Again, i know nothing about how computrd work - proof is i started this in all caps. THE FORUM JUST OUTFOXED ME AND CHANGED IT, WHEN I HIT THE REPLY, TO THIS.

My bet:
1. Key inserted and turned to RUN
2. SKREEM reads chip in FOB
3. SKREEM compares secret code received to codes (8) stored in SKREEM
4. IF match, sends a unique start code to ECU (AKA PCM); IF NOT - failed start
5. ECU compares code received from SKREEM; IF match - engine starts

So, the Key FOB chip, SKREEM, and ECU all have VIN specific codes that are required to start.
As each VIN can have up to 8 keys, the SKREEM can accept 8 unique chip codes.

Hence, the FOB, SKREEM and ECU are required to successfully extract the unique start code from the SKREEM to be able to "spoof" the ECU with modified programming.

At least that's my guess...

I think you should refrain from using the word kraut, it is a derogatory word for a German. Whatever your personal preferences in private, this forum demands respect for all.

It wasn't meant that way = but point taken. I guess that's a hangover term from my days working in counter intelligence in Berlin, when they called us Amis and we all called the Russians or Russkis, or even Ivans. It wasn't meant to be negative, just an old habit. I meant to say that the German firms, all of them, due serious engineering and use these systems, so it might be a bit of a reach for a lone tech here to go up against them to invent a way to get around all their work. David vs. Goliath.

Then again, it was one guy teaching an engineering class at a university that discovered and proved VW made the software fake the emissions stuff. Cost - over $40 billion and counting and a few raids on their companies and some top execs in jail. So it does happen. No offense met.

but... wouldnt this solve your problem? why you havent send the parts and pay and then install them and have your car running?
just asking...