Check Engine Light and Spoiler
Check Engine Light and Spoiler
I have a 2005 Base which has now been upgraded in many ways all at the same time. Battery has been upgraded - Optima, car has been chipped (PowerChip), K&N air filters, new stereo system (Pioneer head, Satellite radio, Rockford Amps/Sub, upgraded speakers in doors and additional speakers behind seats), doorsills, Sun HyperVoltage System, Tint, Fog Lights, upholstery, etc. There has not been much that has not been touched.
Here is the question...The check engine light appeared after the car was started the second time (it did not appear initially) also the spoiler went up and has stayed up. All wiring has been checked. The car is still not complete and therefore has not been driven. Will the spoiler and the check engine light clear up after the car has been driven? From what I have heard, the car has to "learn" all over again since the battery has been swapped. The shop where the car is at does exceptional work and I trust no one else. The car looks outstanding thus far. I appreciate any feedback that might help or any comments from any one that may have experienced the same.
Here is the question...The check engine light appeared after the car was started the second time (it did not appear initially) also the spoiler went up and has stayed up. All wiring has been checked. The car is still not complete and therefore has not been driven. Will the spoiler and the check engine light clear up after the car has been driven? From what I have heard, the car has to "learn" all over again since the battery has been swapped. The shop where the car is at does exceptional work and I trust no one else. The car looks outstanding thus far. I appreciate any feedback that might help or any comments from any one that may have experienced the same.
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Re: Check Engine Light and Spoiler
The check engine light should stay on. The spoiler shouldn't stay up either. If the spoiler is like the locks its vacuum powered, may be a leak somewhere in the vacuum system. My check engine light did not come on though when my deck lock went out. Is your gas cap on tight? I know that sounds stupid but that causes the check engine light to go on. Make sure its on tight. I'm sure one of the folks here has much more technical expertise about what might be going on.
Good Luck !
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Good Luck !
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Re: Check Engine Light and Spoiler
The spoiler is not vacuum powered. It is actuated by an electric motor in the rear hatch. If it goes up all by itself then your shop has jumpered something they shouldn't have. You might want to ask them to check that wiring again. I recall someone had a similar problem with the spoiler when they installed a new head unit and posted here about the problems he had. If you do a search, you will probably find it.
The CEL could be a bunch of different things. Take the car to a dealer and ask them to read the diagnostic trouble code(s). Chances are one of your other mods has made the car's computer unhappy with you.
The CEL could be a bunch of different things. Take the car to a dealer and ask them to read the diagnostic trouble code(s). Chances are one of your other mods has made the car's computer unhappy with you.
Re: Check Engine Light and Spoiler
bobs is right. The check engine light can be reset when the codes are checked and the spoiler is motor driven. The control module may be damaged. Hopefully your modifications did not void your warranty.
You should check with the person who chipped your car. I've heard of problems with the program documentation because the 2004 and 2005 models are different. Good luck and keep us posted!
You should check with the person who chipped your car. I've heard of problems with the program documentation because the 2004 and 2005 models are different. Good luck and keep us posted!
Re: Check Engine Light and Spoiler
I have no answers for this one, only guesses... ECU remap often throws codes and activates the CEL. Your wing problem is electrical, possibly a short, switch problem or the activator.
All I can say is good luck... This car has more wires and harnesses than (I've said it before) the Space Shuttle ... And you probably know, there is not one Chrysler dealer who has ever dealt with this problem...
My suggestion is to back-track all of your installation process and disconnect to see if the problem is eliminated. YIKES...
All I can say is good luck... This car has more wires and harnesses than (I've said it before) the Space Shuttle ... And you probably know, there is not one Chrysler dealer who has ever dealt with this problem...
My suggestion is to back-track all of your installation process and disconnect to see if the problem is eliminated. YIKES...
Re: Check Engine Light and Spoiler
When the car is finished, I will definitely post pics. I am not too worried about the spoiler it is the check engine that bothers me. I spoke with PowerChip and they claim all is good and the car should be driven about 75 miles to "relearn" the systems. If all else fails I will send the ECU back and get it checked. A Mercedes mechanic is scheduled to stop by and take a look. Car starts - no problem. As I stated before the shop where its at is outstanding and they have already checked every wire and connection. Depending on what the mechanic says, I may take it for a ride and see if it "heals" itself.
Re: Check Engine Light and Spoiler
Originally Posted by squat6
I spoke with PowerChip and they claim all is good and the car should be driven about 75 miles to "relearn" the systems. If all else fails I will send the ECU back and get it checked.
Sorry buddy... It seems like many of these guys are knuckleheads and hack the programs...
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HDDP - Thanks...I will be once again giving PowerChip a call to discuss and will probably send the module back to them for a second look. It's never easy. I wonder if it threw a code and also lifted the spoiler. That went up after the car was chipped also. Thanks for the help - I am sure I am sending it back. I will let you know.
Re: Check Engine Light and Spoiler
Here's the link to the Pioneer head unit/Spoiler issue mentioned above. There appears to be an issue with some aftermarket radio harnesses.
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...hlight=spoiler
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...hlight=spoiler
Re: Check Engine Light and Spoiler
Originally Posted by squat6
HDDP - Thanks...I will be once again giving PowerChip a call to discuss and will probably send the module back to them for a second look. It's never easy. I wonder if it threw a code and also lifted the spoiler. That went up after the car was chipped also. Thanks for the help - I am sure I am sending it back. I will let you know.
Re: Check Engine Light and Spoiler
I spoke to the shop where the car is at and the Mercedes mechanic was scheduled to make a visit today. I also found some threads where the spoiler deploys due to a weak battery. Before swapping the Varta for the Optima, the Varta was probably running low and since then the car has not been driven (nothing would have had a chance to reset). The shop was going to put the chip back in today and investigate further with the Mercedes mechanic. I hope to have more news tomorrow. If not, the chip will go back to California.
BTW - Thanks for the Pioneer radio harness tip but that was already checked. Could never be that easy.
Thanks for the help and keep it coming.
BTW - Thanks for the Pioneer radio harness tip but that was already checked. Could never be that easy.
Thanks for the help and keep it coming.
Re: Check Engine Light and Spoiler
Originally Posted by squat6
I hope to have more news tomorrow. If not, the chip will go back to California.
Re: Check Engine Light and Spoiler
The address where I sent my ECU was PowerChip, 2209 Federal Ave., Los Angeles, CA. Maybe they have upgraded since then. I used PowerChip because I heard many good things about them on this and other forums. They are also what is to be believed a "reputable" company. The alternative was Upsolute but after researching, it seemed like a coin toss.
I am hoping things went well today and should have some new information to post tomorrow.
Also thanks for the Auto Zone tip...we have discussed it.
I am hoping things went well today and should have some new information to post tomorrow.
Also thanks for the Auto Zone tip...we have discussed it.
Re: Check Engine Light and Spoiler
Originally Posted by squat6
The address where I sent my ECU was PowerChip, 2209 Federal Ave., Los Angeles, CA. Maybe they have upgraded since then. I used PowerChip because I heard many good things about them on this and other forums. They are also what is to be believed a "reputable" company. The alternative was Upsolute but after researching, it seemed like a coin toss.
These guys are losers and from what I hear, the programs were hacked from someone else.
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HDDP - Ok...you need to help me with this one. Since they are a bunch of losers, did you get your chip reprogrammed and if so who did you end up using? From what I have read, the Upsolute folks work out of their trunks. If you stayed with PowerChip, is it working properly now?
I am not trying to be funny or put down any company, I am just trying to understand. It seems they all work in some type of "shady" environment. Renntech may be the only one that does not.
I made my decision (more than 50%), based on what others expressed in these forums. Although you had a rough go at it (like I am), I am hoping all worked out for you and the chip was an improvement.
I am not trying to be funny or put down any company, I am just trying to understand. It seems they all work in some type of "shady" environment. Renntech may be the only one that does not.
I made my decision (more than 50%), based on what others expressed in these forums. Although you had a rough go at it (like I am), I am hoping all worked out for you and the chip was an improvement.
Re: Check Engine Light
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