Unless your supercharger looks like this....








....I would have to say your boost gauge looks like this:





Everything is B.S. until proven innocent.

 

Why is everyone so tied up in a knot over this post. Isn't it obvious that this is a joke post meant to be somewhat funny???

 

Wow... Lets all beat him up some more. Maverick should tell us where the info comes from so the BS flag doesn't hit the top of the pole but that is up to him. This will be interesting to follow.

 

What is a Jesel belt drive?

I've heard of "Direct Exhaust Injection" but not a Jesel...

 

The only electric I know of, if I remeber correctly, was good for maybe 5% increase in horsepower. I honestly think even 5% is a stretch for that manufacturer.

The best route to take would be a supercharger or something from Vortech. If they ever take the time to make something for our cars.

The next best thing would be a real Turbo or twin turbo setup. Hell I would even consider swapping out my pistons for a lower compression set just to have the chance to add about 15 to 20 psi of boost. That should be good for a few extra ponies.

 

I got one of those on my riding lawn mower...

What in the tar nation is that thing anyway?
A SC with 3 starter motors on it. Is that a P.S. image?

 

Direct exhaust injection........I still love that one!

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if this is what i think it is, it's pretty cool - especially for us roadster owners. it's really just a place to store your hairdryer since you have limited trunk space. you attach it under the hood and when you stop at the motel, you disconnect it and bring it into your room to dry your hair in the morning. lots of hairdryers are called turbos - come on folks, go to any walgreens or wally world. of course i usually only pay $10 for a hairdryer...

 

First of all, if you don't care what other people think, then why post on a forum at all? And, why all the secrecy? The whole point of a forum is for like minded individuals to share information, not brag about some new innovation but hide all the details. And I also agree that if you knew ANYTHING about the automotive aftermarket you would understand why everyone is so skeptical.

 

Jesel belt drives are just funny to me, its not a bad thing to have. Its just a belt that replaces the timing chain (i think they only make them for chevy v8s) and it makes like 10hp more. The funny part is they cost $900. direct exhaust injection is a fool-proof idea that will revolutionize the automotive industry.

 

He also has a bridge in New York city he would like to sell us!

 

Maybe add on a 40 hp electric motor ooops "batteries not included"!

 

It must be true. He used 10 exclamation points in his post. Or, he needs to back off on the coffee a wee bit.

I belong to an invitation only BMW forum that specifically says we cannot discuss electric superchargers or we get kicked off. A previous forum had a member that would promote his own electric supercharger until everyone got completely fed up. The guy was a nut ball.

 

Maverick,

If this thing works, don't tell any of these guys who are ribbin' you.
This FORUM is supposed to be a place to share ideas.
Some advice, next time contain your excitment untill you have your secret decoder ring installed.

Then remember your friends and let the other's wonder.


Roadster with a stick

 

Let me make sure I understand the concept.

You want to take mechanical energy from the engine and transform it to electrical energy via an alternator then transform the electrical energy back into mechanical energy via an electric motor to... Compress air.

As opposed to taking mechanical energy directly from the engines rotating mass to... Compress air.


Brilliant!

 

I can't believe the continuing dialog about this thread

APRIL FOOL---- a little early---- even in Canada we do not bite on bait like this

 

lol @ at the direct exhaust injection.

I just want to point out that I'm not trying to be at all down on "maverick". I may have used the word 'poo' in my original post, but that's to point out that most if not all electric superchargers are a waste. It's a fact of life, not an attack on "maverick". Think about how many engines are used in the world outside of the automobile world. Airplanes, boats, and trains use superchargers. Yet how many use electric superchargers? None! One might argue the reason why no-one uses electric superchargers is because they are some kind of secret, a technology pushed down by a secret society or a conspiracy. This is unlikely.

As Opticon so clearly points out, there are significant disadvantages in using an electric supercharger as compared to a belt-driven supercharger. The basic physics don't add up. The amount of energy required to provide 300hp @ 10 psi using an 80% efficient supercharger is 20 to 40 hp (Source: Corky Bell's "Maximum Boost".) An electric motor would therefore have to have a power source capable of producing 15 to 30 kW.

Let's say, for example, you can source a 12V, 200 amp alternator from a diesel truck or something. This alternator would still produce only 2.4kW. Charging a battery is an 80% efficient process, while discharging a battery is also a roughly 80% efficient process (these are just estimates, due to the internal resistance of the battery.) This means that the total amount of energy being generated is roughly 1/10th that required to make boost. Which means that for each 10 second burst of power, you need to let the car charge for 100 seconds. This is assuming a 200 amp alternator charging nothing but your "boost batteries".

This is why hybrid cars made by big companies (like Toyota and Honda) use electric motors to drive the cars directly through the transmission. One only incurs a battery discharge/charge penalty and a transmission loss. One doesn't need to sit there and waste energy going through a motor, supercharger, and an engine to generate more power.

Although I love cars, they are rolling temples to wasted energy. A belt-driven supercharger is a huge parasitic load, but they are used because they let you make boost when you want it and however long you want it. If you want to cruise at 150mph for 10 minutes running 10 psi boost, the supercharger will be right there, whining for you.

An electric supercharger has limited utility when you consider the effectiveness of a belt-driven supercharger.

 

Sonoronos, you said it best.
This started out kinda weird and funny but I gotta say the math and engineering info has been very interesting. Cool stuff.
Thanks to those who contributed the real data as well as those who contributed real humor. LOF



roadster with a stick

 

You know guys, I am really starting to like this forum really, really, well. You guys are brutal. Let the kid have his fun...we ole' dogs know better, but they have to learn too....Doc

 

The comment was not meant to be sarcastic......this is the only proof that you can be provided that will prove the results.