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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 08:39 AM
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I have never heard a group of guys that think they know something sound so closed minded. Do some research. If you spent less time on this ONE site you may actually learn something that thinks outside of the box. The earth isn't flat, Grow up and realize that science IS advancing. Electric superchargers are COMPLETELY REAL. Look up Thomas Knight one of the inovators of the concept. It was only a couple of years ago you couldn't get a Cordless skill saw, well now due to battery advancments they are everywhere and they get better every Christmas. Can't wait for the first one of you to say well we're not talking saws, a super charger is a far cry from a hand held saw. WRONG it is not a factor of what the machine is, it is a factor of what is the power source supplying it. If you wont except this as very real and right around the corner you deserve to remain at 215 H/P. I recently said I could walk around a guy's Crossfire and shave .2 seconds off his time without spending a penny. The Group did what they always do, thought with one mind and doughted me. If someone that doesn't like to loose a bet, asks to bet you on something that just doesn't sound possible, pull your head out of the sand long enough to realize you may not be the smartest man in the room. Oh yah, Don't take the bet!
 
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Montana Crossfire
I have never heard a group of guys that think they know something sound so closed minded. Do some research. If you spent less time on this ONE site you may actually learn something that thinks outside of the box. The earth isn't flat, Grow up and realize that science IS advancing. Electric superchargers are COMPLETELY REAL. Look up Thomas Knight one of the inovators of the concept. It was only a couple of years ago you couldn't get a Cordless skill saw, well now due to battery advancments they are everywhere and they get better every Christmas. Can't wait for the first one of you to say well we're not talking saws, a super charger is a far cry from a hand held saw. WRONG it is not a factor of what the machine is, it is a factor of what is the power source supplying it. If you wont except this as very real and right around the corner you deserve to remain at 215 H/P. I recently said I could walk around a guy's Crossfire and shave .2 seconds off his time without spending a penny. The Group did what they always do, thought with one mind and doughted me. If someone that doesn't like to loose a bet, asks to bet you on something that just doesn't sound possible, pull your head out of the sand long enough to realize you may not be the smartest man in the room. Oh yah, Don't take the bet!
The question was, any update on the electric supercharger?

A little open minded skepticism is a good thing. Are you absolutely sure the earth isn't flat? If you are ever in NW Ohio, please stop and walk around my Crossfire. Every time I walk around it it slows down by .2 seconds. Maybe I'm walking around it the wrong way. Do you walk clockwise or counterclockwise to increase the speed? Would this walk around work on my 2002 Sierra also?

Are you going to send in your money along with Maverick? Maybe they could offer you two a group discount?

Most of us were trying to tell Maverick to simply be careful and not have someone without an address or testimonials take his money.
 

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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Montana Crossfire
I have never heard a group of guys that think they know something sound so closed minded. Do some research. If you spent less time on this ONE site you may actually learn something that thinks outside of the box. The earth isn't flat, Grow up and realize that science IS advancing. Electric superchargers are COMPLETELY REAL. Look up Thomas Knight one of the inovators of the concept. It was only a couple of years ago you couldn't get a Cordless skill saw, well now due to battery advancments they are everywhere and they get better every Christmas. Can't wait for the first one of you to say well we're not talking saws, a super charger is a far cry from a hand held saw. WRONG it is not a factor of what the machine is, it is a factor of what is the power source supplying it. If you wont except this as very real and right around the corner you deserve to remain at 215 H/P. I recently said I could walk around a guy's Crossfire and shave .2 seconds off his time without spending a penny. The Group did what they always do, thought with one mind and doughted me. If someone that doesn't like to loose a bet, asks to bet you on something that just doesn't sound possible, pull your head out of the sand long enough to realize you may not be the smartest man in the room. Oh yah, Don't take the bet!
you'll be the man when you have 217 hp
 
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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Wow, I can't believe I've read all of these posts. First I want to be one of those doubters and say I don't think it will work, but that being said I applaud your effort in trying to find a way to boost the HP at a decent price. Good luck and I look forward to seeing the results.

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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Montana Crossfire
I have never heard a group of guys that think they know something sound so closed minded. Do some research. If you spent less time on this ONE site you may actually learn something that thinks outside of the box. The earth isn't flat, Grow up and realize that science IS advancing. Electric superchargers are COMPLETELY REAL. Look up Thomas Knight one of the inovators of the concept. It was only a couple of years ago you couldn't get a Cordless skill saw, well now due to battery advancments they are everywhere and they get better every Christmas. Can't wait for the first one of you to say well we're not talking saws, a super charger is a far cry from a hand held saw. WRONG it is not a factor of what the machine is, it is a factor of what is the power source supplying it. If you wont except this as very real and right around the corner you deserve to remain at 215 H/P. I recently said I could walk around a guy's Crossfire and shave .2 seconds off his time without spending a penny. The Group did what they always do, thought with one mind and doughted me. If someone that doesn't like to loose a bet, asks to bet you on something that just doesn't sound possible, pull your head out of the sand long enough to realize you may not be the smartest man in the room. Oh yah, Don't take the bet!
For one, there really isn't such a thing as a cordless skill saw. There is however such a thing as a cordless circular saw. Skill happens to be a major manufacturer of circular saws though.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 07:50 PM
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And I was happy in the thought that this thread was done and put away.

Thanks svo for bringing it back.


Just a thought.......is anyone here going to be surprised when there's no word on if this super sucker thingy ever made an improvement?
 
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 12:31 AM
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You are a dog aren't you, you naughty boy.....
 
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by apkano
super sucker thingy
sucks, blows, same difference.

 
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 03:28 PM
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Chech out this site, seems credible. Not sure. http://www.electricsupercharger.net change the net to .com and you get another site with same pictures on the site and same price. That got me wondering. anyways just a thought.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Montana Crossfire
I have never heard a group of guys that think they know something sound so closed minded. Do some research... Electric superchargers are COMPLETELY REAL. Look up Thomas Knight one of the inovators of the concept.
One more time?

Yes, you can use an altenator (parasitic drag) to generate an electric power reserve to be used for a short time (by an electirc motor) to create positive charge air pressures.

BUT WHY!?

You lose energy in the transition from fuel to mechanical force, from mechanical force to electrical charge, AND from electrical charge BACK to mechanical force. That means an electronic supercharger will NEVER be as efficient as a purely mechanical means of forced induction.

AND

You still have to overcome all the fuel and ignition timing problems that surface when forcing air down a naturally aspirated Crossfire's throat. For what equates to an even weaker burst of power than you could accomplish with a moderate wet shot of nitrous oxide.



The argument isn't that electric superchargers don't exist... it's that they are only considered a viable means of forced induction by people who think their electric toothbrush runs on magic (aka- downsyndrome babies).


Now kill this damn thread!


EDIT: Somebody rename the thread "Rube Goldberg's Forced Induction"
 

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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Opticon
One more time?

Yes, you can use an altenator (parasitic drag) to generate an electric power reserve to be used for a short time (by an electirc motor) to create positive charge air pressures.

BUT WHY!?

You lose energy in the transition from fuel to mechanical force, from mechanical force to electrical charge, AND from electrical charge BACK to mechanical force. That means an electronic supercharger will NEVER be as efficient as a purely mechanical means of forced induction.

AND

You still have to overcome all the fuel and ignition timing problems that surface when forcing air down a naturally aspirated Crossfire's throat. For what equates to an even weaker burst of power than you could accomplish with a moderate wet shot of nitrous oxide.



The argument isn't that electric superchargers don't exist... it's that they are only considered a viable means of forced induction by people who think their electric toothbrush runs on magic (aka- downsyndrome babies).


Now kill this damn thread!


EDIT: Somebody rename the thread "Rube Goldberg's Forced Induction"
I don't agree to killing this thread. Maverick started it almost a month ago and he owes it to us all to keep us up to date. I don't want to see him get burnt. Enough of us aren't negative but our B.S. detectors are sounding off loudly. I know that you're still reading these posts Maverick so how about it, have you ordered and/or received the supercharger yet? You owe the forum to keep us informed. If Maverick doesn't respond soon, by all means kill this thread. We can refer to it in the future as in " remember what Maverick fell for thread".
 
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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You don't need any electric supercharger, I just hock a loogie in my gas tank when I need more power! If those guys rip you off I'll roundhouse kick them into infinity.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ChuckNorris
You don't need any electric supercharger, I just hock a loogie in my gas tank when I need more power! If those guys rip you off I'll roundhouse kick them into infinity.
Sorry for the sidetrack, but I just had to post this for ChuckNorris!

http://www.chucknorrisfacts.com/page1.html
 
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ChuckNorris
You don't need any electric supercharger, I just hock a loogie in my gas tank when I need more power! If those guys rip you off I'll roundhouse kick them into infinity.
Chuck Norris
John Travolta
Jonny Depp

This is turning into Entertainment Tonight.

Hock a Loogie ? I haven't heard that in years.

This is turning into a thread like the "girly" one. Maybe we should drop it.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by apkano
Sorry for the sidetrack, but I just had to post this for ChuckNorris!

http://www.chucknorrisfacts.com/page1.html
Why would I read something I wrote?
 
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck65
Chuck Norris
John Travolta
Jonny Depp

This is turning into Entertainment Tonight.

Hock a Loogie ? I haven't heard that in years.

This is turning into a thread like the "girly" one. Maybe we should drop it.
Drop it? How bout I drop kick this sissy thread! If your going for more power, go all the way. Its cheaper, at least thats what I tell my women.
 
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Old May 13, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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So.......what's the verdict. It's been more than 3 weeks.

Did the hairdryer work? Did you get that "361 HP" ?
 
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Old May 13, 2008 | 09:43 AM
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So.......what's the verdict. It's been more than 3 weeks.

Did the hairdryer work? Did you get that "361 HP" ?

Thanks apkano, I forgot about this tread. It's sure has been more than 3 weeks it's been 7 weeks. Maverick owes us. He started this thread and he should finish it. We all share information openly. I for one would derive no satisfaction from saying I told you so. He might be able to help some of our members from losing their money.

Maverick, did you even buy the supercharger yet?
 
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Old May 13, 2008 | 09:52 AM
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Must be busy stocking up on AA batteries.
 
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Old May 13, 2008 | 10:19 AM
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On the same note.. maybe he could wire up a battery charger into the AA battery holders so that he can use the juice from the AA to charge itself.. and not worry about running out of battery ever... hey.. i think I might be on to somthing here...
 
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