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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 10:29 AM
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Does anybody have any info on this 350 Crossfire? Unfortunately I don't speak German.
YouTube - Väth Chrysler Crossfire: Tim Schrick im Dauerdrift - auch wenn das eigentlich gar nicht geht
 
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 10:38 AM
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lol, last night at midnight, i was watching the same video and asked exactly the same question to myself.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 10:45 AM
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I watched this 10 min. ago and wondered what the story was. Never seen that video (or XF) before! This forum needs a translator for all of the foreign reviews and vids on youtube.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 11:04 AM
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That's the Väth V35 engine... the narrator lists it as a 350, in similar nomenclature like the Mercedes lineup (SLK320, CLK500, etc). They also have smaller tuning programs and programs for the SRT. I love their options but the price is exorbitant, as with anything from Deutschland.

Here are the performance figures... V35 is highlighted in red and blue (286 HP)

CHRYSLER CROSSFIRE:
MOTORVARIANTEN


Crossfire 3,2 V6 - Optimierung der Motorsteuerung

Hubraum: 3.199 cm³ (unverändert)
Leistung: 171 kW = 232 PS
Drehmoment: 320 Nm ab 3.900 U/min
Höchstgeschwindigkeit: 253 km/h
Kraftstoff: SuperPlus (ROZ 98) (Empfehlung)
Abgasnorm: unverändert



Crossfire 3,2 V6 - Tuning-Kit V32s

Hubraum: 3.198 cm³
Leistung: 193 kW = 262 PS
Drehmoment: 350 Nm ab 3.900 U/min
Höchstgeschwindigkeit: 265 km/h
Kraftstoff: SuperPlus (ROZ 98)
Abgasnorm: unverändert



Crossfire 3,2 V6 - Hubraummotor V35

Hubraum: 3.452 cm³
Leistung: 210 kW = 286 PS
Drehmoment: 390 Nm ab 3.900 U/min
Höchstgeschwindigkeit: 275 km/h
Kraftstoff: SuperPlus (ROZ 98)
Abgasnorm: unverändert



Crossfire SRT – Optimierung der Motorsteuerung

Hubraum: 3.198 cm³ (Serie)
Leistung: 260 kW = 354 PS
Drehmoment: 475 Nm bei 3.500 U/min
Höchstgeschwindigkeit: 272 km/h
Kraftstoff: SuperPlus (ROZ 98)
Abgasnorm: unverändert



Crossfire SRT – Tuning-Kit V32k

Hubraum: 3.198 cm³ (Serie)
Leistung: 287 kW = 390 PS
Drehmoment: 500 Nm ab 4.400 U/min
Höchstgeschwindigkeit: 282 km/h
Kraftstoff: SuperPlus (ROZ 98)
Abgasnorm: unverändert
 
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 11:04 AM
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Other posts with related info for ya.

LINKY1

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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 11:16 AM
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Semi-translated

Originally Posted by JHM2K
Here are the performance figures... V35 is highlighted in red and blue (286 HP)

CHRYSLER CROSSFIRE:
ENGINE VARIANTS

Capacity: 3,199 cm ³ - 195 cu in
Achievement: 171 KW = 232 HP
Torque: 320 Nm starting from 3.900 rpm - 236 ft lbs
Maximum speed: 253 km/h - 157 mph
Fuel: Superplus (RON 98) (recommendation)
Exhaust standard:

Crossfire 3,2 V6 - Tuning-Kit V32s

Capacity: 3,198 cm ³ - 195 cu in
Achievement: 193 KW = 262 HP
Torque: 350 Nm starting from 3.900 rpm
Maximum speed: 265 km/h - 258 ft lbs
Fuel: Superplus (RON 98)
Exhaust standard:


Crossfire 3,2 V6 - Hubraummotor V35

Capacity: 3,452 cm ³ - 211 cu in
Achievement: 210 KW = 286 HP
Torque: 390 Nm starting from 3.900 rpm - 287 ft lbs
Maximum speed: 275 km/h - 171 mph
Fuel: Superplus (RON 98)
Exhaust standard:


Crossfire SRT – Optimierung der Motorsteuerung

Capacity: 3,198 cm ³ - 195 cu in
Achievement: 260 KW = 354 HP
Torque: 475 Nm with 3.500 rpm - 350 ft lbs
Maximum speed: 272 km/h - 169 mph
Fuel: Superplus (RON 98)
Exhaust standard:


Crossfire SRT – Tuning-Kit V32k

Capacity: 3,198 cm ³ - 195 cu in
Achievement: 287 KW = 390 HP
Torque: 500 Nm starting from 4.400 rpm - 369 ft lbs
Maximum speed: 282 km/h - 175 mph
Fuel: Superplus (RON 98)
Exhaust standard:
 

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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 11:20 AM
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I've never seen a Crossfire tossed around like that. The crossfire looks incredibly hot when drifting.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 11:21 AM
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nice with all the money i have spent on all my cars i could get that. jim
 
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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It would seem that the guys at VÄTH in Germany have a few tuning options and accessories for the Crossfire:

VÄTH ::: Mercedes Tuning :::
 
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 11:46 AM
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Thanks JHM2K and Tighed1, I don't know how I missed both of those other threads.
It was cool seeing a Crossfire being tossed around like that.
I disconnected the center wire to my traction control module so I guess I could probably duplicate some of those manuvers with my car if I was so inclined. (which I'm not)
It did look like the driver was having a great deal of fun though.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by +fireamx
Thanks JHM2K and Tighed1, I don't know how I missed both of those other threads.
It was cool seeing a Crossfire being tossed around like that.
I disconnected the center wire to my traction control module so I guess I could probably duplicate some of those manuvers with my car if I was so inclined. (which I'm not)
It did look like the driver was having a great deal of fun though.
Don't forget the BCM
 
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 03:47 PM
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Don't forget the BCM
In what capacity John?
 
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 03:51 PM
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BCM = Body Control module...

You said you turned off traction control and planned on doing some donuts/drifting... but the BCM (if I remember correctly) stays active even when TCS is disengaged. So the electronic nannies will still 'arrest' your fun...

Killing the BCM allows lots of drifting, but also kills ABS, so play carefully...
 
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 04:14 PM
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TO that end I isolated my yaw sensor with a switch to allow autocrossing and keep the ABS active. Woody
 
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JHM2K
BCM = Body Control module...

You said you turned off traction control and planned on doing some donuts/drifting... but the BCM (if I remember correctly) stays active even when TCS is disengaged. So the electronic nannies will still 'arrest' your fun... Killing the BCM allows lots of drifting, but also kills ABS, so play carefully...
I thought that was what you were refering to (the BCM cutting in) but so far, I haven't noticed it spoiling any of my fun. But then I don't do donuts anymore either. (Don't plan on starting either)
As far as the ABS is concerned, I don't miss it. But I know if I ever have an accident that could be remotely linked to the ABS being shut off, I'm sure you guys will never let me live it down.
I'm just not a big fan of anti-lock brakes thanks to some "close calls" I've had in 4 different GM cars I've owned. A Vette, a Z-28, and two Chevy Vans.
 

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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 06:50 PM
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Ok, did anyone else notice that the majority of the footage that was taken from outside the car showed a driver with a full face helmet, while all the footage from inside the car shows Tim Schrick driving with an open face helmet. Maybe this Schrick dude needed a stunt driver. LOL
 
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 06:52 PM
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Thanks for the info, JHM. I'm not sure how I missed those 2 threads, though.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 07:45 PM
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My German is super rusty, but the following is better than nothing. Maybe Daun or another one of the German folks on here could help:


Chrysler Crossfire wann fahr motoren richtig - Chrysler Crossfire whenever engine correct

am der extra fahr arten optik an den fahrt nichts - on the special driving-art looks to driving nothing

directe zur auge feuern die neunzehn zoller - direct to the eyes fire the nineteen inchers

die durch funf und dreissig millimeter tieferlegungsat im ihren haus sitzen - the across 35mm lower design sits in the openings.

vor unsutz?? zwei hundert funf und dreizig auf achte macht zoll vergen - in front 235 by 8 inches

hintern zwei hundert funf und sechsige auf neun halb zoll - in back 265 by 9.5 inches

lange haube kurs?? rasch - long hood invokes speed

diskinktsid?? einfach geile aus - <don't know> simply super awesome

blah, blah, blah, tim schrick says something
announcer says, "you can never turn off the stability control on this car"

auf der straBe zollgen solche gretz??? frei experimente besser nichts stat vil??? -
no idea wtf this means....on the street something should something free-experiment better nothing ???? (that was useful)

Schrick says, "the 3.2L 6 cylinder is overbored to 3.5L"

blah blah makes 300 PS

announcer says, "the 1.5 ton chassis is obviously fun" (spaBige)

schrick mumbles something about the brakes

announcer says,"boring is different"..."also after nine laps of hochenheim the crossfire <something>"..." normally the grabbing of the brakes is already gone <something>"...

schrick says, "<something> this crossfire is obviously a series product"

schrick says, "<something> drift <something> coupling <something> good"

Announcer says, "Thank God!!!"

<something> acht und zwanzig tousand euro - 28,000 Euros <something> genau immer wegt?

sorry for the pathetic translation, I tried
 

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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by sonoronos
My German is super rusty, but the following is better than nothing. Maybe Daun or another one of the German folks on here could help:
I tried
We appreciate the effort Sonoronos. Thanks.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 09:52 PM
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Posted this video on the Crossfire Facebook Page. One of the "fans" was kind enough to paraphrase what he's saying.

"They say they increased the engine volume from 3.2 to 3.5 liters and exchanged the cylinders. 19 Inch rims allaround, lowered suspension by 35mm and changed the brakes. Puts out only 300 hp though. He says its a good car, but its super enoying that the ESP does not shut off completly and if you reach its limit, it still understears and goes straight.... The cost of the whole package, including exhaust etc., is 28,000€, so about $36,000 which you could use to buy an SRT 6 and bring it to TVT to be honest"

There you go.
 
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