Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher

Getting back to the original question,

Meester, Your dad needs to buy a car he wants. If he is making the payments he has to be happy everytime he gets in the car. And everytime he gets out.

Here is your delima.

If he is, shall we say, older, gettin in and out ain't easy so unless the perma grin comes on, he will not like the car. If he does like the car, why would he give it up and hand it to you?

Your screwed either way.

Here's an idea. These cars aren't all that expensive to purchase. You can get into one for under ten grand no problem. I can pretty much guaranttee that two years from now that situation will likely be the same.

So put your money away and drive whatever he finds he would like. Then he doesn't have to give up his toy and if you let him drive yours and he loves it, it's his loss to regret.

After all, you had told him.

Or let him have your Toyota for enough cash to go get your own Crossie now.

I loved every car I ever owned. I owned every car I every drove. Even the clunkers, 'cause they were mine. Sump'in to be said for that.

Every car I bought my kid, he tore up 'cause he didn't give a crap about something to which he thought he was entitled. And everytime he wrecked a car of mine that I had given him, I cried just a little.


Jus' sayin


roadster with a stick

Originally Posted by +fireamx

I felt that way about the SRT, but not the NA car. With an SRT things can get out of control real fast, and for that reason I wouldn't give it to a teenager. When you really think about it, there's hardly a car built that won't hit triple digits, and that's more than enough speed to ruin anybodys day.
I think most teenagers get into trouble while driving because they're paying more attention to cell phones, their tunes, text messaging, or being distracted by friends in the back seat, than their driving.
Being a 2 seater, eliminates most of the distractions. It's one of the fastest stopping cars on the road today. It's manuverability enables a driver with quick reactions to avoid sudden obstacles, it's quick enough to get out of somebodys way, and its traction control helps correct mistakes.
Above everything else, the Crossfire seems like it's built like a little tank. There has only been one fatality in a XF (as far as I can remember), and the driver had to do a swan dive into the Grand Canyon to do it. (no disrespect to the deceased, or his family).

Originally Posted by Big Al

The part about the dad being ,(older), and having trouble getting in and out of a Crossfire, hit home. I am going on 72,(would classify as older than dirt,) and I will just say this,"I do have a little trouble sometimes, getting out, getting in, I just kind of turn sideways and roll in."

Once I am in, seat belt on, radar detector on, "LOOK OUT, GRANDPA IS PASSING YOU AT 115 SO DONT TRY AND CATCH ME, WAHOOOOO!!!!

Originally Posted by blackcrossfire07

In my opinion the SRT and the limited are both the same. SRT just has a little bit more kick. An extra second or two on the 0-60... 2 extra seconds on the quarter mile.... same thing in my book for a common street car. Unless you are trying to race on a track then a couple seconds count. But on the street both cars will shoot off like a rocket with you hit the gas.

Any car may hit triple digits but how do they feel at that speed? And how easy is it to get up to that speed? The crossfire is different than most cars in that respect because it is much easier to get up to 130 MPH and stay there for a long period of time... and honestly most cars can't even hit 130 MPH without a govern kicking in. I have driven many cars and there are not too many that feel safe to me at 115 MPH. They feel very scary and unsafe even at 100 MPH.

No way would I let a 16 year old kid drive a crossfire. It is like giving him permission to get in trouble. He can have a 4 door sedan.

Originally Posted by blackcrossfire07

In my opinion the SRT and the limited are both the same. SRT just has a little bit more kick. An extra second or two on the 0-60... 2 extra seconds on the quarter mile.... same thing in my book for a common street car. No way would I let a 16 year old kid drive a crossfire. It is like giving him permission to get in trouble. He can have a 4 door sedan.

Originally Posted by Fritzauf

Get a Nissan Z. I has a better resale value....

As long as it's a white coupe it will be O.K.

Originally Posted by musicnsurf

i thought about making a lengthy reply but really...you need to buy your own car (and all that goes with it. you'll thank yourself when you get in your 40's).

Originally Posted by oledoc2u

Sorry kid....I have 3 sons....twins of their younger brother....twins did fine, repaid for the cars I bought them...they ended up their cars, which they traded after college for what THEY wanted. #3 son, love him to death, but never paid for his car, I sold it after college, and gave him one of the twin's cars that I kept for a spare. He is driving MY car, which is an old '97 Grand Am...I just put another $200 bucks in, which he didn't have, but it IS MY car...he has yet to buy himself a car...don't mine giving him transportation while away at college, but he is on his own now...still love him to death, but he is on his own...so no help to you here...Dad needs to do what Dad needs to do, and you should appreciate us old Dad's willingness to do it.....

PS.....yes, I saw that comment John....I got your AARP....lol

Originally Posted by +fireamx

Blackcross07, If you really don't think there's any difference between controlling a 15 sec. car vs a 13 sec. car under hard acceleration, I won't waste your time trying to convince you otherwise.
Just don't give any kids a 4dr. Camry, they're faster than the Cross.




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Originally Posted by Chris L.

C&D said stock SRT6 = 13.5 & Musclefan21 did < 14.4....stock 6 speed....the difference = 0.9 sec.

Originally Posted by +fireamx

I was comparing automatics, I didn't want to take advantage of the "unfair advantage" the 6 speed gives you. A manual transmission car performs only as good as the driver can launch and shift. Automatics run much more consistant 1/4 mile ET's.

Motor Trend best recordered time for a "NA" Crossfire was 15.18.
Road & Tracks best recordered time for a SRT6 "Roadster" was 15.3.
Sorry for fudging .12 sec.
I'm sure ANYBODY can hop into a SRT6 and turn near 12 sec. 1/4 miles. After all, we all know it takes no skill to drag race.

Originally Posted by xodus52

Again, the poor kid isn't talking about having his dad buy him a car. Re-read...

Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher

YES HE IS. HE WANTS DAD TO BUY AN XFIRE SO HE GETS IT LATER FOR COLLEGE.

YOU DIDN'T TRY THIS TRICK WITH YOUR PA?

roadster with a stick

Originally Posted by +fireamx

I was comparing automatics, I didn't want to take advantage of the "unfair advantage" the 6 speed gives you. A manual transmission car performs only as good as the driver can launch and shift. Automatics run much more consistant 1/4 mile ET's.

Motor Trend best recordered time for a "NA" Crossfire was 15.18.
Road & Tracks best recordered time for a SRT6 "Roadster" was 15.3.
Sorry for fudging .12 sec.
I'm sure ANYBODY can hop into a SRT6 and turn near 12 sec. 1/4 miles. After all, we all know it takes no skill to drag race.

Originally Posted by Chris L.

Is that true? MT did the 1/4 in a NA in a shorter time than R&T was able to in an SRT "Roadster" ???