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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by danimal
Franc....mine, bone stock was around 6100 or 6200. It happens pretty quick at that RPM but it was surely WAY ABOVE 5470. It's now at approx. 6350 in all gears (up through 4th anyway....haven't hit it in 5th or 6th). I can only assume that it would be the same since RPM is RPM, no matter what gear you are in (engine RPM).
Yes, mine pulls waaaay over 5470 before the rev limited kicks in. It's fairly common for me to run right up to redline without issue and my engine is bone stock (not even K&N filters!!!!)
 
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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 03:32 PM
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Default Re: Hitting the Rev-Limiter

Me too, coming home from my daily visit to the casino I just ran 3rd gear right up to the redline.....no cut-off. Stock limiter setting must be higher??
 
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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by danimal
Franc....mine, bone stock was around 6100 or 6200. It happens pretty quick at that RPM but it was surely WAY ABOVE 5470. It's now at approx. 6350 in all gears (up through 4th anyway....haven't hit it in 5th or 6th). I can only assume that it would be the same since RPM is RPM, no matter what gear you are in (engine RPM).
I hadn't noticed but that is backwards. It was 5740, not 5470, when I first had my car at Jakes for a tune. I think I posted once before and made the same error. I'm olt' OK.

Frankly running up thru the gears the engine would likely pass the 5740 rpm limiter and reach 6100. It would stay there because of the vehicle's inertia unless you actually hit the limiter, shutting the engine down.

It is a weird and scary feeling when that happens. For sure

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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 09:36 PM
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When I hit the rev limiter in 1st and then try to shift into 2nd, 90% of the time I get that disgusting grinding noise............

1st gear is over pretty damn fast in this car. I think they could have made it "longer"...
 
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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 09:42 PM
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When I hit the rev limiter in 1st and then try to shift into 2nd, 90% of the time I get that disgusting grinding noise............

1st gear is over pretty damn fast in this car. I think they could have made it "longer"...
There is a pedal, just left of the brake pedal.

Try shifting using that in the depressed position.
If you time it right, should be a bit quieter.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
There is a pedal, just left of the brake pedal.

Try shifting using that in the depressed position.
If you time it right, should be a bit quieter.
Franc, I have found this to be true.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 10:27 PM
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Larry, I found this out when driving firetrucks. Stephens were the worst. Most of them have lousy synchros and I always seemed to lose track of where a gear or two was when driving the big rigs thru traffic.

Grind grind, it is a wonder we had a working rig when I got to the scene.

Then I found that pedal.

WOW!
 
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 12:25 PM
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Franc, The only manual firetruck i've driven was a 60's something ford. If you did not do it right or missed a gear you had to stop and start all over.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
There is a pedal, just left of the brake pedal.

Try shifting using that in the depressed position.
If you time it right, should be a bit quieter.
haha, I'll give it a try
 
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
Chris, I was told by the guys at Eurocharged that it depends on the tranny, Stick shift vrs auto. However the revelimiter on my six speed was set factory at 5740 RPM. This to allow for over spinning under heavy acceleration.
I think the autos are set at 5800.

Mine is now set gears one, two three at 6300. I am almost never there holding at 6000.
Gears four, five, and six, are set at 5800 RPM's

These engines are good to 6800 easy. The worst you should get at those RPM's is valve float, which should do nothing as it isn't an interference engine.

Of course, I have had an unexplained issue which could be related to high RPM's. However I have had several V6 engines, non Mercedes, that regularly hovered around 7,000 RPMs and had no problems.

Just my two cents.
I have the auto limited xfire. I hit the rev-limiter at every pass at 6300 rpms which is the reason my top speed has never been better than 102 mph. I use nitrous so I will hit the limiters in the 90s mph and back off the gas. Shortly after I will hit the gas again. Is there a way to fix this problem with-out hurtng the car?
 
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 10:22 AM
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You hit the limiter before the transmission shifts on it's own?
 
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Larry Hitze
Franc, The only manual firetruck i've driven was a 60's something ford. If you did not do it right or missed a gear you had to stop and start all over.

I'm from leather helmets, standing on the fantail holding on for life as you put on your flammable bunker gear.
We carried two MSA paks on the truck but only the wimpy guys wore them.
Dem was the good ole days.

You new guys are spoiled.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by psuperti
I have the auto limited xfire. I hit the rev-limiter at every pass at 6300 rpms which is the reason my top speed has never been better than 102 mph. I use nitrous so I will hit the limiters in the 90s mph and back off the gas. Shortly after I will hit the gas again. Is there a way to fix this problem with-out hurtng the car?
Get a stick shift.

Doesn't it up shift when you click right?
My SRT shifts up when I click right and let the throttle up slightly.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 01:21 PM
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Default Re: Hitting the Rev-Limiter

Originally Posted by Chris L.
You hit the limiter before the transmission shifts on it's own?
I was on the last gear already at 90s mph.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
I'm from leather helmets, standing on the fantail holding on for life as you put on your flammable bunker gear.
We carried two MSA paks on the truck but only the wimpy guys wore them.
Dem was the good ole days.

You new guys are spoiled.
It was still that way when I started 26 years ago, ride on the back and MSA's in the compartment in plastic cases. It wasn't a good fire unless you threw up your dinner. Only way to get a good tan on your ears was at a run. Thats why you don't want to miss a meal. No leather helmets though, and we had the long nomex coats to the knees.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 04:15 PM
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[quote=psuperti]I was on the last gear already at 90s mph.[/quo

Do you mean your automatic was in 3rd ....hitting the rev-limiter....and it wouldn't shift to 4th on it's own?

I thought I read on this forum that if you click left from a stop....stomp on it .....that even if you didn't slap to the right....that the automatics would go ahead and shift at redline???
 
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
These engines are good to 6800 easy. The worst you should get at those RPM's is valve float, which should do nothing as it isn't an interference engine.
You'll probably have issues with balance shaft bearings before you'll experience valve float
 
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 04:29 PM
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[quote=Chris L.]
Originally Posted by psuperti
I was on the last gear already at 90s mph.[/quo

Do you mean your automatic was in 3rd ....hitting the rev-limiter....and it wouldn't shift to 4th on it's own?

I thought I read on this forum that if you click left from a stop....stomp on it .....that even if you didn't slap to the right....that the automatics would go ahead and shift at redline???
Yest if you shift the auto manually it will change gears on its own at redline. I cant shift manually because I have the operate mine NOS buttons so I do my passes at full automatic. At 90s, I'm in 4th gear already and I hit the rev limiter 5 or 6 sec before the finish line. So I stop giving the car gas and NOS then punch it at the end again. Hope it makes sense now.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2010 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by +fireamx
Every car I own has a factory tach, but sometimes I just forget to use it.
But Mike how could you forget to use the rest of the car too???
Yea I'm talking blue and in your garage, a shameful waste, the Viper gods have lighting bolts in their hands waiting to throw them at you in your little white coupe.
 
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