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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 09:09 PM
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Okay so my Father owns an '05 Crossfire Coupe and I am not too familiar with Chrysler's as I drive a VW. Anyways, his high beams do not work. From what I have read he needs to replace the turn signal switch and the headlight switch and things will be working again. However, it is a pricey and tedious job and dealerships and Indy's are quoting him at a pretty high price.

So my first question: Are there many part outs on this forum where I can pick up a turn signal switch as well as a headlight switch?? Being that the parts are used there is no guarantee that that they will work, but it is a cheaper solution and is worth a shot. OR does anyone know where to get either at a decent price so we can DIY?

Second question: would driving lights help with night lighting in lieu of high beams? There are cut outs on the bottom of the bumper for them and the owners manual states that if the car came with fog/driving lights, they are controlled by pulling OUT the switch on the dash when the regular beams are turned on. So, as far as installing driving lights, my question(s) are.. The wiring is not already there, is that correct? Will they throw off enough light to take the place of the high beams? If they can be installed, will they work if, in fact, the high beams do not work because the lighting module is bad?

Thanks for the help, let me know if any further information is need.
 

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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 09:18 PM
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Default Re: High beams out, have a few questions..

This may be a really stupid question, but I have to ask because this is the first car I owned that works this way. To turn on the high beams, you must push the lever forward. Did you try that? Seriously? I made that mistake driving my car home the first night.

I can't see both devices being defective at the same time.

And the OEM Fog lights are more for looks than actually doing any good, IMO. In no way will they take the place of high beams, not even close. There are many posts about DIY upgrading the base with fog lights.

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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 09:08 AM
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Default Re: High beams out, have a few questions..

Not sure why you would automatically think it was a bad switch and not a bulb issue.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 09:28 AM
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Default Re: High beams out, have a few questions..

Originally Posted by James1549
This may be a really stupid question, but I have to ask because this is the first car I owned that works this way. To turn on the high beams, you must push the lever forward. Did you try that? Seriously? I made that mistake driving my car home the first night.

I can't see both devices being defective at the same time.

And the OEM Fog lights are more for looks than actually doing any good, IMO. In no way will they take the place of high beams, not even close. There are many posts about DIY upgrading the base with fog lights.

James
He has had the car for a little over a year and has used to the high beams before, so he knows how those work.

It has been reported on here that replacing both is the fix, although both of them being defective at the same time does sound weird, but thats what I have read.

I have tried telling my Father that those are fog lights at the bottom of the bumper, but he states that he has had 'driving lights' down there on previous cars and they are actually very bright. I personally don't see how they can be brighter than headlights, unless they were HID bulbs in there, but they still will not shine farther than head lights becuase they are located so close to the ground.

Can anyone confirm if these 'driving lights' can be done where the fogs are located?
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 09:28 AM
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Not sure why you would automatically think it was a bad switch and not a bulb issue.
All bulbs and fuses have been checked.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 05cxfire
All bulbs and fuses have been checked.
Maybe try replacing them... sometimes they may look fine but are really shot. I just find it hard to believe it is a switch problem.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by blackcrossfire07
Maybe try replacing them... sometimes they may look fine but are really shot. I just find it hard to believe it is a switch problem.
I know and it's weird that BOTH would need to be replaced to fix the problem.. read here, esp. post # 6.

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...t-working.html
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 11:00 AM
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I read post #6 . Anything can be possible. Give it a try if you are at a dead end. I just like to be more sure of things before spending my money.

James
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by James1549
I read post #6 . Anything can be possible. Give it a try if you are at a dead end. I just like to be more sure of things before spending my money.

James
I'll have him give it a shot, thanks.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 12:13 PM
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Default Re: High beams out, have a few questions..

I had the same problem with my high beams and the dealer did replace both parts.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 10:13 AM
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This is the lighting module, correct?

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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 10:33 AM
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Default Re: High beams out, have a few questions..

Originally Posted by 05cxfire
This is the lighting module, correct?

Yes it is.
I really fail to see why both parts would fail at the same time. I would suspect the multi function switch first if the fuses were OK.
These components can be checked out using the diagnoses outlined in the repair manual available here. It is not restricted to SRT6 info as the title implies.
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...tml#post111722
 
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 10:38 AM
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Default Re: High beams out, have a few questions..

Originally Posted by robby363
I had the same problem with my high beams and the dealer did replace both parts.
Dealers use the shotgun approach to solving problems as they are not paying for the components replaced. They would have changed the tires if they could have come up with a reasonable excuse for doing so.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 10:58 AM
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Default Re: High beams out, have a few questions..

Originally Posted by onehundred80
Yes it is.
I really fail to see why both parts would fail at the same time. I would suspect the multi function switch first if the fuses were OK.
These components can be checked out using the diagnoses outlined in the repair manual available here. It is not restricted to SRT6 info as the title implies.
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...tml#post111722
None of those links work once you click on your original link..
 
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 01:57 PM
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None of those links work once you click on your original link..
I PMed the person who is hosting those, hopefully the links will work soon, and when they do, I recommend you download the full service manual and save it somewhere for future reference....
 
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Old Jun 21, 2011 | 02:04 PM
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Default Re: High beams out, have a few questions..

If the bulbs are the same age, it can be expected that they will both fail close to the same time.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2012 | 02:44 PM
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Default Re: High beams out, have a few questions..

My high beams just quit working, AGAIN !! I had the control arm repleased a couple of years ago. I love the car, but the electrical systems are a constant headache.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2012 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by clotiii
My high beams just quit working, AGAIN !! I had the control arm repleased a couple of years ago. I love the car, but the electrical systems are a constant headache.
I had my high beams go out suddenly and all it was was the plug at the back of the switch. I pushed it to see if there was a bad contact while the light switch to the headlights was on and the lights on reminder started. I looked up and the light was on, so I pushed the plug on tight and all was well with the world.
So the question is, does the chime work with the doors open and the headlights on?
 
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