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Old Nov 17, 2012 | 07:29 PM
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For what it's worth, here's a link to a time in history when I had my Limited.

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum/634749-post8.html

Mods were: a tune from Eurocharged, C320 Airbox, and Ansa Muffler
 
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Old Nov 17, 2012 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Beaner
Nope, supercharged s2000 ran in the 13's with street tires, srt6 ran 12.9 with street tires. they are a close match. Take it easy with the honda is best attitude. they are all good for what they are built for

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOFLrQexv_o
Comptech supercharged s2000 with an after cooler will put down 350+ whp and it weighs 400 lbs less than SRT, maybe he couldn't get any traction, from a roll it would whoop on a pullied/tuned srt. And for the 1/4 mile time comment, your time doesn't start until you cross the line. That's why people deep stage to have a small rolling start when the time starts so reaction time has nothing to do with ET doh.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2012 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by xman03
Comptech supercharged s2000 with an after cooler will put down 350+ whp and it weighs 400 lbs less than SRT, maybe he couldn't get any traction, from a roll it would whoop on a pullied/tuned srt. And for the 1/4 mile time comment, your time doesn't start until you cross the line. That's why people deep stage to have a small rolling start when the time starts so reaction time has nothing to do with ET doh.
Maybe they couldn't get traction... ohh well, win some loose some.
Dont matter, stock they are a close race, modded they are close race. No whooping going on here
 
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 12:21 AM
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Stock what.. s2000 and the srt? lol
 
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 03:12 AM
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Better listen to the guy, sell all your crossfires and Buy Hondas! They must be the best, they are preached like religion by one person here who can't make a decent, worthwhile comment to save his life.

As far as low 60' times in a 6 speed, I think you run out of first gear too fast. I don't think you would get to 60' before you are well into the rev limiter at WOT, making a shift required. If they had a gear that was about halfway between first and second I think the car would actually be a lot quicker off the line.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by boostmonkey
Dragtimes slips show stock NAs run low 15s, even high 14s on a good pass. The only ones I see that are into the 13s have nitrous.

I do not think a 1.99 60' is possible with a stock NA, even on a perfect launch. I could be proven wrong with a timeslip, but until then I'm going to say no. The car doesn't have the right gearing or torque for it.
Not trying to sound like Superman here, just trying to be helpfull. IF zeroto60times.com has a 2004 manual at 14.5 stock, seems to be plausible, right? Base is a little lighter than limited. Higher flow exhaust and rear cat delete= less low end power to help with launch, considerably more mid and top end power, less weight, close to 70 lbs lighter than stock. Better breathing through k&ns and intake mods. Not sure if it helps or not, but taller than stock tires with a 245/45/18 in front and let pressure down to 25lbs at track in rear. It seems feasible to me to run that. I was actually expecting better times, but you guys have made me feel a bit better about what I ran. I love running "questionable" times. That means that I am doing better than a time that no one disputes Again, I am just trying to help and offer input. I just moved for the second time in two weeks (long story), but if I find some time slips, I will post one up. Good luck in your go fast efforts guys and be safe.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 10:02 AM
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Oh, and trap speeds just broke 100mph. I remember getting excited about breaking 100 but do not remember exactly how much, but definately just over a few tenths I believe?? Looking for slip.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 04:34 PM
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14.5 is more than decent for a 3000lb car with 175whp.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 04:54 PM
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Of course it is just a calculator and not actual conditions, but the calculator on dragtimes.com says that a 14.2 1/4 mi run with a trap of 100 mph and 3200lbs (probably low estimate including driver), is an estimated 235.32 hp at the flywheel. Hmmm, let's try a 13.9 at 104 and see...also changed vehicle weight plus driver to a closer 3400lbs...274.36 at the flywheel. It would take a few mods to get to that probably, lol. Oh well, enjoy the n/a for what it is, a fun and quick (not fast) car that turns heads and handles like its on rails. Did I mention that women love them?

EDIT: Maybe I need a 50 shot? lol, fun times!
 
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 09:57 PM
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This is the data from my Bluetooth OBDII and Torque Android App... note the max MPH and the best 1/4 mile... now I don't expect that 14.076 is doable completely stock, just wondering how far off this thing is.. I would expect a decent amount of accuracy given its plugged right in, but maybe theres a delay?

 
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 11:24 PM
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By today's standard, 15 - high 14s is not quick, v6 accord is faster than that. Stock SRT is quick - very low 13s car with a rather high trap for that ET and not fast. C6 Z06 is fast.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by xman03
By today's standard, 15 - high 14s is not quick, v6 accord is faster than that. Stock SRT is quick - very low 13s car with a rather high trap for that ET and not fast. C6 Z06 is fast.
We got a honda lover among us! bow down because they are the best/fastest/perfect in every way car EVER!!!!!
 
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by xman03
By today's standard, 15 - high 14s is not quick, v6 accord is faster than that. Stock SRT is quick - very low 13s car with a rather high trap for that ET and not fast. C6 Z06 is fast.
Yes, BY TODAY"S STANDARD the NA's are not fast. They are after all mid 90's technology. But when they made their debut in 2003, (even though they were using a 7 year old platform) they performed pretty well when compared to the competion.
As we all know, the performance never changed in the 5 production years it was built, so yes it is and was sort of "frozen in time " so to speak.
For the record: Per Road & Track Road Tests.

04, Crossfire 6sd. 14.7 sec.
04, Audi TT 3.2 Quattro,14.7 sec.
04, Mazda RX8, 14.6 sec.
03, Porsche Boxter, 14.6 sec.
05, Nissan 350 Z, 14.1 sec.
05, BMW Z4 3.0i, 14.1 sec.
05, Honda, S2K, 13.9 sec.
04, Honda Accord EX-V6 Coupe, 14.8 sec.

By the way, one thing that should be pointed out, ALL the above mentioned cars had a final drive ratio of 3.44:1 or better. The RX8 had a 4.44:1, the Audi a 4.20:1. and the S2K with a 4.10:1.
Compared to the 3.27:1 Autobahn Crusing Gear the Crossfire was stuck with, personally I think it performed admirably.
I don't think I'd be going too far out on a limb if I said that a set of 4.10 gears in the back of a Crossfire would easily cut a 1/2 sec off its 1/4 mile times, and quite possibly break into the 13's as well.
As for the modded SRT6's, which are now in the mid 11's, 10's would surely be a possibility using 4.10 gears.
Hondas are fantastic cars. I've owned over15 different models in the last 30 years. Mostly all Civics, one Accord, and a 3 CRX's. If the S2K had come out with a coupe, and a little better looking body, I may very well have purchased one, that is if I could have fit in it. I tried on a roadster in the showroom once, and it was a no go.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by xman03
By today's standard, 15 - high 14s is not quick, v6 accord is faster than that. Stock SRT is quick - very low 13s car with a rather high trap for that ET and not fast. C6 Z06 is fast.
Will you please go read what you were supposed to. I found data to prove otherwise on an accord forum of dudes with mod's running low 15's.... Get yourself on Google and do some damn research man, it really isnt that hard.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Beaner
We got a honda lover among us! bow down because they are the best/fastest/perfect in every way car EVER!!!!!
But of course, compared to a Honda, there is no other....
 
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 11:51 AM
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Leave him alone are we not lovers of all cars the s2000 is a great car! Build from the nsx in mind and came from one of the greatest f1 drivers of all time s2k was the most powerful n/a engine ever built until Ferrari beat that in 2008 Japanese are great engineers! Hate the young people who branded Honda into vtec yo.. But you have to admit being young and broke a Honda is great value for power! In saying that the crossfire is the best looking car on the planet! His on this forum properly because he also owns one like us his not putting crossfires down... #edit most powerful for engine size*
 

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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 11:56 AM
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Honda worship.. isn't that what the "other cars" thread is for? Then "Fan Boys" for the Crossfire can stay pure..
 
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Beaner
We got a honda lover among us! bow down because they are the best/fastest/perfect in every way car EVER!!!!!
You left out the best part.. you can buy at least 2 for the price of a Crossfire!
 
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by xman03
That 4-banger put out 110whp per liter, do the math of what NA does, pathetic that NA with bolt ons will never be as fast as a 2L RSX.. At least the Japanese got it right. Or throw a supercharger on an s2000 and no SRT would even come close to beating it, lets not be crossfire fanboys.
I may have a weed eater that makes 200 HP per litre. It doesn't matter. It's a pointless metric. You might as well compare by HP per # of main bearings or HP per water pump bolts.

HP/weight, HP/manufacturing cost, HP/MPG, or torque/curb weight! would all be meaningful metrics to the consumer. HP/liter is just an excuse for underperforming cars.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by beaner
we got a honda lover among us! Bow down because they are the best/fastest/perfect in every way car ever!!!!!

hilarious! Lol
 
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