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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 09:40 AM
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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I never had it pop out of gear but does anyone else run into strong resistance when putting it into 1st? Sometimes it goes right in, smooth as can be. Other times its like trying to push it in from neutral without using the clutch. I usually just have to push harder and kind of force it into gear, then I let up on the clutch and go. It's not like I have to RAM it into 1st with all my strength, but there is definately a noticable resistance I must push through to make it. Or if I let up on the clutch and push it back down, it will go in smoothly. 2nd through 6th never had the same issue.

Anyone else experience this exact thing?
 
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by NJspeed69
I never had it pop out of gear but does anyone else run into strong resistance when putting it into 1st? Sometimes it goes right in, smooth as can be. Other times its like trying to push it in from neutral without using the clutch. I usually just have to push harder and kind of force it into gear, then I let up on the clutch and go. It's not like I have to RAM it into 1st with all my strength, but there is definately a noticable resistance I must push through to make it. Or if I let up on the clutch and push it back down, it will go in smoothly. 2nd through 6th never had the same issue.

Anyone else experience this exact thing?
Always go into 2nd gear before, and then 1st, should eliminate problem.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 10:09 PM
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Going over, lets say, 15 mph, I have yet to put the car into 1st...but when I just "pretend" to put it into 1st, the shifter resists greatly...it feels as if over this speed the car cannot go into first.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by golfdude
Going over, lets say, 15 mph, I have yet to put the car into 1st...but when I just "pretend" to put it into 1st, the shifter resists greatly...it feels as if over this speed the car cannot go into first.
Golfdue:
You do not want to downshift when the engine is under so much load, at 15 miles per hour your rpms are at 3,000 and that is way too much. Downshifts at 5 mph maybe are about all you want.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 01:34 AM
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First gear is only for takeoffs. 2nd gear is your friend... - Ward
 
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 06:19 AM
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I always wanted to downshift at that speed just because I am thinking about racing...some corners are 1st gear corners and if you cannot downshift to 1st, you are at a disadvantage.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 03:50 PM
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Unless you are turning into your driveway, NO corners are 1st gear corners! Remember, if you come up to a corner it's because you are already underway. So unless you are planning to stop before you go around it, then you use 2nd plus.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 07:26 AM
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My 6 speed is a ***** to get into first sometimes. No rhyme or reason to it. I now go to third and then to first and it glides right in. Mine has had the new syncros installed also. I thought it would help. It didn't.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 09:43 AM
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try going to second gear and then move shifter straight up to first, this does work for me every time.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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Mine has 4500 miles on it now and it still is very resistant to downshift to first. Other than that, it is a very smooth tranny. I have had mine to the strip and if you practice a bit it shifts very quickly. Having said that, if I had it to do over, I believe I would have bought the auto stick. I live in the country so that isn't the issue, its just that the autostick is so good that it seems there is no longer the BIG advantage that a stick used to have. You don't have to take my word for it though go to any drag strip and virtually all the cars there are autos and many of the road racers have opted for a sequental gearbox which is virtually the same thing. By the way you should still be able to downshift to first at up to 20mph or so, and yes you should ALWAYS downshift sequentally.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 02:05 PM
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I never really downshift into 1st, so I'm not talking about when your moving. In fact you shouldn't ever downshift into 1st in this car unless your at a virtual crawl. LOL I just reread this message before this, and you say its okay to downshift into first if your going less than 20mph? LOLL.. mine CANT downshift into first unless I'm going 1 or 2 mph...

I'm talking about sitting at a light and trying to put it into first, it doesn't want to go sometimes, you need to push it through the resistance.

Same thing today when I tried putting it into second then first, same EXACT thing. It wouldn't go into second without the same exact resistance. However, I've never noticed resistance when going from first to second.

It seems to be something about standing still and trying to get it into gear. Personally I'm getting annoyed at it.

BTW I think its the early cars who have a similar problem, not you guys with brand new ones.

I'm #6060.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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NJspeed69:

I don't think its exclusive to early builds. My build # is up in the 13000's and I have a hell of a time getting it into first, and even into second is difficult until the trani is warmed up really well. I find the best remedy is to double clutch. The other alternative is to force it, but I feel better not having to stress the trani that way.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 11:43 PM
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If it's any consolation, they can shift quite nicely. I have a later 04 model and as I have mentioned before that a shift to 2nd before 1st, makes the 1st gear shift great. Reverse is very easy also. Surely I'm not the only one that shifts properly, so, if we know they can work, then it's time to see the dealer. There is a standard shift lever adjustment with tool # 9120 so you might want to try that 1st. Of course we all know that a cold transmission is tough until it warms up a bit. Believe me, I know, -40 last night. Please let me know if it helps.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob G
When I first purchased my Xfire I saw a company on line out of Florida which said that if you send them your ECU and they would re-chip it for faster throttle response and about 10-15 hp. I am assuming that they are referring to the chips that others have installed, from places like Powerchip and Upsolute. I have not heard from someone with a 6 speed and a chip, to see if this is true. So lets ask now! Has anyone done this mod on a standard, and is the throttle response quicker?
Other than that, you will get used to the split second delay and your shifts will be smooooooooth!!
Can't tell you how much I enjoy the 6 Speed!
The overall "feel" and "g force" of the car is improved...especially in 3rd and 4th gears since I put in an Upsolute chip...worth the money!

Rick
 
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 09:52 AM
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I didn't spend this kind of money just to always have to go into second before first.. I mean what is that..? Your happy doing that? Thats something I'd expect to do on a 10 year old Honda, not a brand new Crossfire. I'll happily shove it into first every single time because I just don't care. If this tranny breaks they can replace it under warranty for being a pos. The sooner it breaks and I get a new one, the better.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 10:57 AM
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So what are you bitchin' about? Cram it in there! All I said was that the Upsolute Chip improved the performancee of the car in the mid range. Much smoother and more power at the 3000 mark.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 01:06 PM
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Damn whats your problem? Just because I happened to reply to the message after yours, doesn't mean I was directing my message towards you. Take a second look and you'll see the comments I made have no correlation whatsoever towards your Upsolute chip. Theres 4 pages of posts here.
 
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