I'm a founding member of CICCI but became a sponsor of .org, at the time Mighty stated he needed funds to keep this forum going and like other CICCI board members, members as well some none members. We did it to keep this forum up and running for the members that don't feel like they need to pay.

 

the way to return the favor is to be active on the site, be helpful and if you have something you dont want and someone needs it hook them up. its the ones that give without the expectation of return that i admire the most, the ones that mod and give the ideas freely. its what makes this forum heads above the rest.

 

Forums and clubs come and go, but I believe clubs will stick around longer if the members are dedicated to the principles of the clubs formation.

This site (.org) is stable right now but has had its issues. Outside of the antics of outsiders (those who join only to cause trouble) and perhaps some with what others consider childish behavior (not accusing anyone), I still have yet to find one I would absolutely turn down having a drink with.

Understand the CICCI site/club is still in its infancy and as such still has a way to go (IMO) into becoming a club comparable to what many of us envision the Vette, Mustang, etc. clubs to be like; what that vision is, is up to the individual. There is nothing wrong with joining CICCI or not and certainly there is no obligation to renew your membership if you find it isn't for you.

There are so many ways (as there are owners) to phrase the difference between the two types of sites as well as ways to "justify" joining or not, but in the end it comes down to your personal preference. I would like to see both sites stick around for a while...at least till I can't drive my XF anymore.

However you decide, you are still welcome at either and certainly any gathering of Crossfire's that I know of regardless of member status.

 

At my age (68) I decided I needed a convertible and looked long and hard at Mustang, Volvo and BMW - both new and used. First noticed the Crossfire by accident online (Chrysler did a LOUSY job promoting it but they did me a big favor cause I saved big bucks when I purchased mine NEW in May of '08). Never owned a Mercedes or dealt with foreign car service issues. Found this forum and read everything I could to learn as much as I could. Lot of good people posting here!! Since fewer than 80K Crossfires were built I felt we could become an "endangered species", especially with the state of Chrysler financially. When CICCI was started I became a founding member (just before cut-off date) because I saw a lot of the people joining there that had been so helpful on this forum and I liked the concepts they were promoting for CICCI. As far as I'm concerned CICCI is a VOICE (small in numbers but the numbers are growing) for the Crossfire that will pay off for all owners of the car. What they have accomplished so far and what will develop from their efforts in the future can be nothing but good news for all of us. As stated previously, you don't have to join CICCI but we all will benefit from their efforts.

 

Now that is what it is all about...thank you sir......

 

Well said HARRYV, thank you sir..

 

" I don't want to be in any club that would have me for a member!"....Woody Allen

 

And no one ever wanted Woody Allen in their club.

 

Wow - this is amazing - and you wonder why polictics are a mess!! I have had my Crossfire since July 07, and if were not for the honest and informative feed back on this site, I wouldn't be driving a Crossfire, it was the passion that you can hear when you read the threads that make this a great forum, and I for 1 will continue to spend too many hours here. So thank you!!!

 

in the politics of economics, very well said.

 

I read somewhere that he purchased a Crossfire for one of his kid.

 

If this site didn't have all the great folks and advice, I'd join CCCI. I don't have enough time to multi task so I just play on here for now since this one fulfills my Crossfire state of mind....

 

If this site didn't have all the great folks and advice, I'd join CCCI. I don't have enough......... Well said. I very seldom post here but let's set the record straight.


Did you know the great folks you're talking about ARE CICCI?

Did you know that over 80% of all post on the forum are by CICCI members?

Did you know the five Founding Directors of CICCI met on this forum?

Did you know it was CICCI members that pushed for Julian to fix and properly maintain this forum when it was going to crap?

Did you know that CICCI members have formed intregal positions with Chrysler, LLC to maintain "parts" production and availability for our beloved Crossfires forever?

Did you know CICCI members maintain, moderate and support this forum?

Did you know CICCI is DuPont Registry recognized and now a major contirbutor to the All Chrysler Nationals in Carlisle, PA?

Did you know CICCI goes to bat for any/all Crossfire owners regardless if they're a member or not?

Did you know CICCI compiles data for service in all States relative to the Crossfire?

Did you know CICCI contacts/assists all Crossfire owners who may have had a Crossfire destroying accident to assist them in any way possible?

Did you know CICCI is dedicated to the preservation of the car you profess to love?

Did you know CICCI does charitable donations via Crossfires4Charity?

Did you know reknowned car clubs recognize and appreciate CICCI members for their dedication to the Crossfire?

Did you know that CICCI has made it possible for the Crossfire to be accepted and self classified at Vintage, Import, Domestic and Modern Mopar car show events?

Did you know the Chrysler Owners Group contacted CICCI for assistance with their restructing based on CICCI's sound club foundation?

Did you know CICCI was formed to make sure every Crossfire owner gets their due respect from Chrysler, Fiat, SEMA, NHTSA,etc?

Did you know that the designer and the producer of the Crossfire are both CICCI members?



DID YOU KNOW CICCI IS THE BACK BONE OF THIS FORUM?

Say what you want and be a part of those "who did not know" for as long as you wish but, stop bashing CICCI just because you dont want to be a member and dont know what CICCI does or has done.


AND IT'S -C-I-C-C-I

 

don't think so
who is ichon

 

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Thats an old Groucho Marx line originally.

 

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Really??? The last one is the one that really gets me. You do realize that they were/are Crossfireforum.org members first right? I thought long and hard before I responded to this thread. I was really ready to let this thing go, but you're statements are ridiculous.

 

Come on now fellas. This is a ridiculous thing to argue about.

The difference between CrossfireForum.org and CICCI is simple. CICCI is a car club that has a forum. And CrossfireForum.org is simply a forum.

That's about as simple as you can say it. But there's a lot more depth to a car club than just an online forum. Keep in mind that CICCI is first and foremost a club. Yes, they have a forum too. And, yes if you become a member you get access to that forum. And yes, members can buy stuff from the club store. But that's not the point of CICCI.

The point of CICCI is an organization that supports and promotes the Crossfire community. The membership fees paid into CICCI go to support the Crossfire community. CICCI supports events like the Tail of the Dragon, the All Chrysler Nationals, and Crossfires Across America. CICCI also promotes the community's interests with Chrysler, and with other car clubs. They build relationships with vendors. The provide support for members.

Does any of that come from CrossfireForum.org? No. Does any of the money donated to CrossfireForum.org go to the support of the community? No. It's privately owned, and Julian (the owner) has every right to do with it as he pleases.

Don't get me wrong, I love this forum. But it is just a forum. If you love your Crossfire (which all of us do), then why would you not support (or at least not bash) CICCI?

 

Because Tommy, you and I will still be driving and racing ours when they all long gone to the next big love of their life.......I belong to a vette club for yrs...even when I didn't still own one...but I finally gave them up...so I dropped out, and that is what these gentlemen will do, so that is the jest of it....when I belonged to the 'vette club, the internet wasn't that big yet, and there weren't any forums available....regardless....this is just bullshit at best...those who want to enjoy a club membership is who want to join....I gave money to Julian to keep this forum up, and I would do it again....but not for the reason the above have stated, it is because many of my fellow club members enjoy being here too...