How to build a fast Crossfire
Originally Posted by jonnyangel04
I see why HDDP gets so annoyed sometimes.
Originally Posted by jonnyangel04
This information has been around for almost 2 years or more NO one bothers to do a search anymore I have come up with at least 5 to 6 different pulley companies and almost 7 different ecu tunning companies by searching and reading, HALF THE GUYS ON HERE by not taking the time to search have not figured out that you can get the ASP pulley for about $400 by buying a lousy tool off ebay for $40 to ensure you don't ruin the pulley while removing it and sending it to them, I don't get it SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH. CHI-SRT6 Its great you figured it out and your times are pretty decent, but if people would just take the time to use the search button post like this wouldn't even be on here for the 4th or 5th time. Third if people really cared about these cars they would be talking to the guys and reading about the guys who have been doing this SINCE 98 SEARCH PEOPLE AND READ there is mbworld, srtforum, slkworld, benzworld, mercedesforum not just crossfireforum THE CROSSFIRE only has one site and all though its great to see people excited about **** they just discovered THIS SITE HAS BEEN THE MOST BORING OUT OF ALL Of THEM everything has become a repost because no one searches... I see why HDDP gets so annoyed sometimes I am sorry if I seem like an a$$ but ever since this car has become affordable its been a new wave of new people posting about stuff that has been around before they came around. When i first got here all i did was read to catch up It took me almost two months DO a search look me up and call my bluff lol SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH seriously just my 2 cents I'm done ranting...
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Originally Posted by jonnyangel04
This information has been around for almost 2 years or more NO one bothers to do a search anymore I have come up with at least 5 to 6 different pulley companies and almost 7 different ecu tunning companies by searching and reading, HALF THE GUYS ON HERE by not taking the time to search have not figured out that you can get the ASP pulley for about $400 by buying a lousy tool off ebay for $40 to ensure you don't ruin the pulley while removing it and sending it to them, I don't get it SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH. CHI-SRT6 Its great you figured it out and your times are pretty decent, but if people would just take the time to use the search button post like this wouldn't even be on here for the 4th or 5th time. Third if people really cared about these cars they would be talking to the guys and reading about the guys who have been doing this SINCE 98 SEARCH PEOPLE AND READ there is mbworld, srtforum, slkworld, benzworld, mercedesforum not just crossfireforum THE CROSSFIRE only has one site and all though its great to see people excited about **** they just discovered THIS SITE HAS BEEN THE MOST BORING OUT OF ALL Of THEM everything has become a repost because no one searches... I see why HDDP gets so annoyed sometimes I am sorry if I seem like an a$$ but ever since this car has become affordable its been a new wave of new people posting about stuff that has been around before they came around. When i first got here all i did was read to catch up It took me almost two months DO a search look me up and call my bluff lol SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH seriously just my 2 cents I'm done ranting...
This car has become affordable but it certainly has not become cheap. Most are still paying 22-26K for there SRT and even though that does allow "a new wave" of people in that does not mean you should bash them. The ones who need to be bashed are the ones who paid ANYWHERE near 50K for this car. That's just plain silly!
Some of the "older" members on here have spend THOUSANDS on there cars only to see small results not worth posting about. Some of these "older" members act like little bitches cause they have 70-80K invested in there crossfire and it upsets them to see someone come in and show people what can happen with just 2K in mods.
BTW Johnny no disrespect intended but if my numbers are only "pretty decent" I would really like to know what your car is running.
Originally Posted by Chi-Town SRT/6
The reason I posted this thread is because IMO opinion many "older" members were denying the fact that this car could be made to go faster with things like intake/ECU and pulley's. My car and several others have proven that that old theory wrong.
This car has become affordable but it certainly has not become cheap. Most are still paying 22-26K for there SRT and even though that does allow "a new wave" of people in that does not mean you should bash them. The ones who need to be bashed are the ones who paid ANYWHERE near 50K for this car. That's just plain silly!
Some of the "older" members on here have spend THOUSANDS on there cars only to see small results not worth posting about. Some of these "older" members act like little bitches cause they have 70-80K invested in there crossfire and it upsets them to see someone come in and show people what can happen with just 2K in mods.
BTW Johnny no disrespect intended but if my numbers are only "pretty decent" I would really like to know what your car is running.
This car has become affordable but it certainly has not become cheap. Most are still paying 22-26K for there SRT and even though that does allow "a new wave" of people in that does not mean you should bash them. The ones who need to be bashed are the ones who paid ANYWHERE near 50K for this car. That's just plain silly!
Some of the "older" members on here have spend THOUSANDS on there cars only to see small results not worth posting about. Some of these "older" members act like little bitches cause they have 70-80K invested in there crossfire and it upsets them to see someone come in and show people what can happen with just 2K in mods.
BTW Johnny no disrespect intended but if my numbers are only "pretty decent" I would really like to know what your car is running.
No disrespect at all It was a rant as you can read I was kinda upset and there are tons of errors, but I don't think I was out of line at all.. I guess what I am saying is I just want to see something new thats all I am all out of ideas. Most of the members on mbworld are about the 55s which is fine some of the concepts that apply to that engine also apply to ours. The 32s have some new buzz with LE in the mix but he has been around for awhile. I am reaching out for people to join sites, DON'T POST AND JUST READ. Read about VRUS who created a company VRP, that has created pulleys, carbon fiber air boxes, heat exchangers, carbon fiber engine covers, and now cams and even a tune. Read about Adam with evosport and how he started a company with a dream to make bmw's and Mercedes faster. He started with being a member on a forum, reading about a need for other forum members to want to make there cars faster and got the idea. Hell read post by HDDP where he is talking back and forth with Woody, Seriously you will not understand any of it, half the fun was searching Google or Wikipedia after reading a sentence to find out what the hell they were talking about. Look Woody up check out his website and the things he is coming up with. SEARCH AND READ.
WITH ALL THESE MINDS ON HERE I WANT TO COME UP WITH NEW **** and it just sucks reading THE SAME STUFF. You have been here for three months you don't get it yet wait till you read about your 25th post about a pulley and ecu. Or wait till you see probably close to my tenth intake and have everyone be so stoked because no one wanted to go weld one up themselves, IT's sad to see that people will drop $500 on something new that probably cost less then $300. I will break it down for you and lets pretend we all don't have TIG welders, most of us don't Including me. Order an $80 3in intercooler kit off eBay, Mock it up on your engine probably with tape that will work best, have a shop weld it up for probably $50, buy a 1ft X 3in rubber hose run it up to the grill buy a 3in 90 degree elbow and a K&N, put it all together with 3 hose clamps, and save $350. The K&N and the aluminum will probably cost close to $130. HDDP, STRYFOX, ME, AND probably a dozen more have all built intakes for less then that hell TVT has his on ebay already for less then $300 and it is probably only costing him $80 to make. This has turned into another rant but it all comes down to people not searching FOR THE BEST THING OUT THERE FOR THERE CAR, THE BEST QUALITY AT THE BEST PRICE. Or just thinking things up themselves being a real car guy and building it themselves.
And about your 12.2 to be completely honest with you I have only had my SRT6 crossfire for about 3 months and have only gotten to drive it for about two. This winter I will be doing all the modding and your 12.2 is the number ever since you have posted that I will be shooting for. It is a great time and I take back saying decent. Bottom line part of me just wants to see NEW threads with new excitement and this car running where I think it should... in the 11s. I think that Is very possible for less then $3,500 maybe even $2,500. I hope to prove this next summer.
This entire rant started with how to build a fast crossfire and reading members posting, that this is the information they needed, ohh I'm so glade someone posted about this is what I was looking for, and oh wow this is great to read I am going to go right out and get all the same products, Thank you for paving the way for us. It just kinda tweaked me because its all been on here before your not the first and I am sure you wont be the last. People used to do the search first and ask questions later, It is sad you don't see that anymore.
WITH ALL THESE MINDS ON HERE I WANT TO COME UP WITH NEW **** and it just sucks reading THE SAME STUFF. You have been here for three months you don't get it yet wait till you read about your 25th post about a pulley and ecu. Or wait till you see probably close to my tenth intake and have everyone be so stoked because no one wanted to go weld one up themselves, IT's sad to see that people will drop $500 on something new that probably cost less then $300. I will break it down for you and lets pretend we all don't have TIG welders, most of us don't Including me. Order an $80 3in intercooler kit off eBay, Mock it up on your engine probably with tape that will work best, have a shop weld it up for probably $50, buy a 1ft X 3in rubber hose run it up to the grill buy a 3in 90 degree elbow and a K&N, put it all together with 3 hose clamps, and save $350. The K&N and the aluminum will probably cost close to $130. HDDP, STRYFOX, ME, AND probably a dozen more have all built intakes for less then that hell TVT has his on ebay already for less then $300 and it is probably only costing him $80 to make. This has turned into another rant but it all comes down to people not searching FOR THE BEST THING OUT THERE FOR THERE CAR, THE BEST QUALITY AT THE BEST PRICE. Or just thinking things up themselves being a real car guy and building it themselves.
And about your 12.2 to be completely honest with you I have only had my SRT6 crossfire for about 3 months and have only gotten to drive it for about two. This winter I will be doing all the modding and your 12.2 is the number ever since you have posted that I will be shooting for. It is a great time and I take back saying decent. Bottom line part of me just wants to see NEW threads with new excitement and this car running where I think it should... in the 11s. I think that Is very possible for less then $3,500 maybe even $2,500. I hope to prove this next summer.
This entire rant started with how to build a fast crossfire and reading members posting, that this is the information they needed, ohh I'm so glade someone posted about this is what I was looking for, and oh wow this is great to read I am going to go right out and get all the same products, Thank you for paving the way for us. It just kinda tweaked me because its all been on here before your not the first and I am sure you wont be the last. People used to do the search first and ask questions later, It is sad you don't see that anymore.
Last edited by jonnyangel04; Nov 26, 2007 at 09:10 AM.
Originally Posted by jonnyangel04
This information has been around for almost 2 years or more NO one bothers to do a search anymore I have come up with at least 5 to 6 different pulley companies and almost 7 different ecu tunning companies by searching and reading, HALF THE GUYS ON HERE by not taking the time to search have not figured out that you can get the ASP pulley for about $400 by buying a lousy tool off ebay for $40 to ensure you don't ruin the pulley while removing it and sending it to them,I don't get it SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH. CHI-SRT6 Its great you figured it out and your times are pretty decent, but if people would just take the time to use the search button post like this wouldn't even be on here for the 4th or 5th time. Third if people really cared about these cars they would be talking to the guys and reading about the guys who have been doing this SINCE 98 SEARCH PEOPLE AND READ there is mbworld, srtforum, slkworld, benzworld, mercedesforum not just crossfireforum THE CROSSFIRE only has one site and all though its great to see people excited about **** they just discovered THIS SITE HAS BEEN THE MOST BORING OUT OF ALL Of THEM everything has become a repost because no one searches... I see why HDDP gets so annoyed sometimes I am sorry if I seem like an a$$ but ever since this car has become affordable its been a new wave of new people posting about stuff that has been around before they came around. When i first got here all i did was read to catch up It took me almost two months DO a search look me up and call my bluff lol SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH seriously just my 2 cents I'm done ranting...
Perhaps most SRT6 owners don't want to modify or swap their OEM pulleys with ASP.
If this site is so boring, why do you feel the need to log in and post?
If you see a post that is a duplicate, how about just not replying or ignoring it?
There are ways to tell someone to do a search without being blatantly rude.
BTW, posting these huge paragraphs makes reading them difficult.
Edit: I was replying to his original post when he posted at 8:35 AM forum time.
Last edited by RPM; Nov 26, 2007 at 08:42 AM.
Originally Posted by RPM
Seriously?
Perhaps most SRT6 owners don't want to modify or swap their OEM pulleys with ASP.
If this site is so boring, why do you feel the need to log in and post?
If you see a post that is a duplicate, how about just not replying or ignoring it?
There are ways to tell someone to do a search without being blatantly rude.
BTW, posting these huge paragraphs makes reading them difficult.
Edit: I was replying to his original post when he posted at 8:35 AM forum time.
Perhaps most SRT6 owners don't want to modify or swap their OEM pulleys with ASP.
If this site is so boring, why do you feel the need to log in and post?
If you see a post that is a duplicate, how about just not replying or ignoring it?
There are ways to tell someone to do a search without being blatantly rude.
BTW, posting these huge paragraphs makes reading them difficult.
Edit: I was replying to his original post when he posted at 8:35 AM forum time.
Here's a possibility. This site and this SRT6 thread were the first places I found out about when I was looking into possibly modding my new car. I'm 21 and pretty proud of my ride as I'll be paying for it for about four more years.
So I hop onto this forum and see guys like NeedsWings and Chi-Town talking about their mods and their suddenly blazingly fast cars. Hence...I get real excited. I don't have time (full-time student at Ga Tech and Air Force officer in training) to make up my own mods. I see this high quality intake from NeedsWings that has been proven and everyone that has it remarks on the quality. I get it too, and sure enough it looks great and performs awesome. I would not have a gorgeous car and strap on some rigged up intake that I pieced together. I just am not that crafty anyway.
Lastly, people keep asking about all this stuff because this is the main place they go for this information. And more importantly, we see these times posted with two or three simple mods and get excited, mostly because people like Chi-Town are excited. In conclusion, I ask around because I see people are active on this site, have done what I'm looking to do, are very excited about it, and happy with their results. So I think that if I feel it out with them and ask their opinion, I too will be very happy with my car.
So I hop onto this forum and see guys like NeedsWings and Chi-Town talking about their mods and their suddenly blazingly fast cars. Hence...I get real excited. I don't have time (full-time student at Ga Tech and Air Force officer in training) to make up my own mods. I see this high quality intake from NeedsWings that has been proven and everyone that has it remarks on the quality. I get it too, and sure enough it looks great and performs awesome. I would not have a gorgeous car and strap on some rigged up intake that I pieced together. I just am not that crafty anyway.
Lastly, people keep asking about all this stuff because this is the main place they go for this information. And more importantly, we see these times posted with two or three simple mods and get excited, mostly because people like Chi-Town are excited. In conclusion, I ask around because I see people are active on this site, have done what I'm looking to do, are very excited about it, and happy with their results. So I think that if I feel it out with them and ask their opinion, I too will be very happy with my car.
I like the work and the write ups being done by the flood of new SRT owners (me being one of them).
If it truly bothers the "old-school" on the forum then perhaps you can start a section of your very own were the rest of us won't have access. Kind of like your own secret society. You can even have secret passwords and hand signals.
I too thought this forum was for posting your ideas, mods, results, thoughts, desires and requests. I didn't realize there was an "un-written" protocol or permission was required to post your mods and results - even if they were done three years ago by someone else.
I hope the current group that is buying the intake/pulley combo flood this forum with their experiences.
If you don't like it - don't read it.
If it truly bothers the "old-school" on the forum then perhaps you can start a section of your very own were the rest of us won't have access. Kind of like your own secret society. You can even have secret passwords and hand signals.
I too thought this forum was for posting your ideas, mods, results, thoughts, desires and requests. I didn't realize there was an "un-written" protocol or permission was required to post your mods and results - even if they were done three years ago by someone else.
I hope the current group that is buying the intake/pulley combo flood this forum with their experiences.
If you don't like it - don't read it.
Originally Posted by BrianBrave
I like the work and the write ups being done by the flood of new SRT owners (me being one of them).
Hi, old schooler here! I guess I am getting new schooled since I never stopped screwing with my cars and had to learn new things. For the record ECU, intake and pulley is what made my Mini Cooper S scream. Those are the bang for the buck mods on a supercharged car. After this you start spending large amounts for very small increases. Good work Chi-town!
For me it really doesnt matter if i could have sent my stock pulleys to asp and saved $400 bux. I never had any intention of giving up the option of putting them back on if and when the day comes.The reason the asp pulley and needswings cai is so popular here right now is because it is backed up by facts and first hand info like how to threads, time slips, and dyno pulls. Everything showed great results and i hope that threads like these never stop.
Originally Posted by hawksview
For me it really doesn't matter if i could have sent my stock pulleys to asp and saved $400 bux. I never had any intention of giving up the option of putting them back on if and when the day comes. The reason the asp pulley and needswings cai is so popular here right now is because it is backed up by facts and first hand info like how to threads, time slips, and dyno pulls. Everything showed great results and i hope that threads like these never stop.
Someone may have posted about something 3 years ago that has since had a negative side effect or proved to be a waste of time/money. A 'newbie' comes along and asks about it, and now that the 'old' person has 3years experience, he can provide a 'new' response about it.
If this 'newbie' would've just searched, he may have wasted his time/money reading all of the hype about a product when it first came out.
I agree to a point though - as a forum owner, it is nice to see less repetitive threads. BUT, when the threads are simply positive reviews, and 'compilations'...no sweat.
All Abe did was take all of his mods, compile it into one easy to find post, and piled all of the info into one area. This makes it easier to reference later, and easier to find all of the info in a search.
A lot of good moderators/administrators of forums will actually MERGE threads to do the exact same thing that Chi-Town did. If the Mods/Admins are unhappy with the new posts - maybe they should exercise this function of the forum software. Then people may stop complaining about redundant posts.
There is always going to be someone who is unhappy. I learned this quickly when starting a forum...do your best to please the masses, the rest will follow suit or just live with it.
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Last edited by ShawnQ; Nov 26, 2007 at 02:13 PM.
Originally Posted by jonnyangel04
This information has been around for almost 2 years or more NO one bothers to do a search anymore I have come up with at least 5 to 6 different pulley companies and almost 7 different ecu tunning companies by searching and reading, HALF THE GUYS ON HERE by not taking the time to search have not figured out that you can get the ASP pulley for about $400 by buying a lousy tool off ebay for $40 to ensure you don't ruin the pulley while removing it and sending it to them,I don't get it SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH. CHI-SRT6 Its great you figured it out and your times are pretty decent, but if people would just take the time to use the search button post like this wouldn't even be on here for the 4th or 5th time. Third if people really cared about these cars they would be talking to the guys and reading about the guys who have been doing this SINCE 98 SEARCH PEOPLE AND READ there is mbworld, srtforum, slkworld, benzworld, mercedesforum not just crossfireforum THE CROSSFIRE only has one site and all though its great to see people excited about **** they just discovered THIS SITE HAS BEEN THE MOST BORING OUT OF ALL Of THEM everything has become a repost because no one searches... I see why HDDP gets so annoyed sometimes I am sorry if I seem like an a$$ but ever since this car has become affordable its been a new wave of new people posting about stuff that has been around before they came around. When i first got here all i did was read to catch up It took me almost two months DO a search look me up and call my bluff lol SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH seriously just my 2 cents I'm done ranting...
Then there's this little gem: Jonnyangel04 wrote;
WITH ALL THESE MINDS ON HERE I WANT TO COME UP WITH NEW **** and it just sucks reading THE SAME STUFF.
So what your saying is you want other people to come up with new ideas for you. Why don't you come up with your own ideas?
And don't forget about this one:
This has turned into another rant but it all comes down to people not searching FOR THE BEST THING OUT THERE FOR THERE CAR, THE BEST QUALITY AT THE BEST PRICE.
How do you know what others consider to be the best thing out there for THEIR (spelled properly) car? Or what they consider the best quality for THEIR car? Or what they want to spend on a given item for THEIR car?
Dude your ramblings are incoherent and nonsensical and the way each individual uses this forum is really only up to them, the administrator and the moderators, other than that it's really no one elses business. This forum seems to be like any other learning tool, take what you can from it and give back whatever you can to it.
Maybe I'm way off base here but it wouldn't be the first time.
Everyone is becoming so pissy - maybe the whole forum should shut down for a month, let everyone breathe and realize what a great tool it can be. Geez, reading these posts are harder than mowing the lawn sometimes...oh wait, I have a choice - I'll take my own forum sabatical...sorry...leaving now...bye.
If you would have read the post minus all the spelling errors IT clearly states I AM OUT OF IDEAS and there is nothing new. Anyways I apologize for making this thread into this I don't know IF it is the fact my car has been in the shop for two weeks, the fact that I had it completely detailed and I know it is sitting out in the snow, or what but i'm kinda cranky. I suppose reading post from other members like what does SRT6 stand for, will 22s fit, and is it illegal to debage my car, followed by Mercedes Benz emblems on a Chrysler I think it just all piled up to this moment and I exploded. Won't happen again sorry.
Resonator Removed: $150
Intake: $500
Pulley's: $1,000
Tuning: $500
I went from 13.2 @ 103 to 12.2 @ 113 with those above mods and that's a fact.
Intake: $500
Pulley's: $1,000
Tuning: $500
I went from 13.2 @ 103 to 12.2 @ 113 with those above mods and that's a fact.
If you search and read like Johnny-Be-Banned said, you will find that Eracer76 and Steve Hellums both did the Renntech packages and then some. The base package started at $2,995 without an intake. From what I could find Eracer76 ran a 12.67 and couldn't find if Steve Hellums posted a time. Wait this is new stuff, why wouldn't they be hitting low 12's if it was already done before. News Flash - It's better and has evolved and became cheaper in the process. We are all thankful for ASP, Renntech, and everyone else on here. HDDP doesn't even have an SRT-6 even though he's thought of here to be the expert on Crossfires. Until now the SRT's weren't the majority and weren't cheap enough to risk blowing it up and test. It's not who invented an idea, but who makes that idea better and with rising gas prices, comes down to price. Who makes an intake for $400 bucks that looks and performs better than needswings? What about that smoking pulley price? Without this demand we wouldn't be getting these prices. 1/3 of what it cost to do it 9 months ago!! Props to Abe for spending the money first, and then backing it up with 1/4 times. Then props to all the newbies for stirring up excitement including myself. When is the last time 200 members were on at the same time? Keep it going.
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Originally Posted by jonnyangel04
If you would have read the post minus all the spelling errors IT clearly states I AM OUT OF IDEAS and there is nothing new. Anyways I apologize for making this thread into this I don't know IF it is the fact my car has been in the shop for two weeks, the fact that I had it completely detailed and I know it is sitting out in the snow, or what but im kinda cranky. I suppose reading post from other members like what does SRT6 stand for, will 22s fit, and is it illegal to debage my car, followed by Mercedes Benz emblems on a Chrysler I think it just all piled up to this moment and I exploded. Won't happen again sorry.
No apology needed for that but thank you never the less.
I have been a member for only 4 months and have spent a great deal of time doing searches randomly. I find that subjects have been repeated for several years and not just recently. For example "Sprint Booster" has been repeated since May '06. "Rotex golds" have been repeated over multiple threads since July '04. "Oil Changes" have been repeated on many different threads since June '05.
The list goes on and on. It is just the nature of a forum to constantly post threads about subjects that have been previously posted on. All you can do is browse through the posts and read only what interests you and if it is something that has no new added value to a topic for you then simply move on.
That is really the only way you can use this forum IMO.
For newer people that don't search it is first time info and for those who have been here for a long time it will become repetitive. Just my 2 cents and thanks for taking the time to read this post as it isn't the first one of this kind.


