Does anyone know if the key/fob for the crossfire is a transponder type key? i am installing an alarm thursday and would like to get rid of the stock fob. Thanks in advance for any help.

 

lets help a new owner anybody

 

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I'm not sure what you mean by a transponder key. But here is what I know:

The fob serves three purposes.
1) the physical key, unlocks locks and turns the ignition
2) transmits lock and unlock and panic commands to the car
3) at the time of ignition, the car reads an RFID chip within the fob, and if the RFID does not match the ignition system, then the car will not start

So, if you want to get rid of your fob, you need to get what is called a "flat key" from your dealer. It is a smaller/thinner key than the fob. It will not serve any "remote" functions, like lock/unlock/panic. But it will physically unlock/lock the locks and ignition, and most importantly, it will start the car because it also has a matching RFID chip in it.

I don't know for sure, but I believe the flat keys cost about $60. If you search here in the forum, you can find the part number for them.

Just to be clear, your car won't start without two things, the physical key to turn the ignition, and the correct RFID chip within an inch or two of the ignition keyhole.

 

why would you bump a thread thirteen minutes after your last bump?

 

thanks for the info...thats exactly what i needed to know...

 

Do me a favor, if you get a flat key, let me know how much they charged you for it, and post a photo. I'm curious how big they are.

 

will do...take it you are a rush fan

 

Not doubting your information or anything, but why would a flat key costs $60 and a regular key costs 150$+?

The remote itself is CHEAP! You can find them on ebay for like 40$ or so, (not positive..).. but when you go to get the RFID chip from Germany from your VIN#.. t hat's where the $$$$ piles up.. I believe ??

 

Actually, I couldn't tell you why it's so expensive. But I know why the fobs on ebay are so cheap - compared to the correct one from a dealer. It's because they're useless. The fact that I was dumb enough to buy a "lot" of three of them for $60 just goes to show how useless they are. I could have turned right around and sold them on ebay individually for $30-$40 each, and made money, but I didn't want to cheat someone by selling them something I know would be worthless to them.

Oh, back to your question: the real reason they charge so much is because they can.

 

Yeah. How'd you guess?

 

I got the Viper alarm and did not want to carry two remotes, so I took 1 of 3 factory remotes that I received with my car apart and epoxy glued the small chip to the key and have had no problems after a 2 1/2 years.



Shade

 

Hey Shade, what chip did you glue to the key? Where was it inside the remote? I have my old broken one, and would LOVE to make a working key out of it.

 

OMG! didnt know you were still alive! i gaze at your gallery all the time, as that Viper alarm is the SAME one I want!

How do you turn the key? Is it hard? I'm majorly interested, and can I ask how much it cost to install / the unit itself / etc.

Details please !!!

 

This is a DIY project, and afterwards you can attach the key to any normal size keyring. Once you insert the key into the ignition, just turn the keyring to start the car, real smooth and easy to do.

• Rip apart a remote, remove the key and chip. The chip is small & black, it is next to the base of the key in the remote.
• Get a file and etch the base of the key, the side that has the small pin which holds the flat key to the base. Etching will make a rough surface for the epoxy glue to bond the chip to the base.
• Mix a small batch of Quick Set 5 minute epoxy glue. Wait about 2 minutes and smear the glue using a toothpick on the etched area. Then place the tapered portion of the chip flush with the base and let it set for 10 minutes.
• Mix a second batch of epoxy glue. Wait about 3 minutes and using a toothpick, smear epoxy to cover the entire chip. The glue will flow smoothly over the chip after 5 or so minutes. Let this cure overnight.

Shade

 

Thanks!! Any information on the pricing of the actual remote start ??

 

The Viper alarm+install costed $300, but I did not want or need the remote start option.

Shade

 

Thanks for the awesome info Shade! I just managed to swap the chip between my old beat-to-hell remote and a brand spanking new (prolly used) ebay fob. It starts my car just fine, which is sweet.

Unfortunately, I can't get it to lock/unlock the doors via remote. I've tried the "insert key in ignition, press lock twice and turn key to ON position". I didn't work.

Any ideas?