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Finally Someone Raced Me!! SRT-6 vs Lancer Evo

Old Nov 12, 2008 | 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by mrphotoman
Evos are a lot of fun, several of my friends have them. I have a video posted up of me racing my friends evo. You can make them run low 12's or high 11's fairly easy. That AWD launch can be a killer on 1/8 mile tracks but you can usually make it up on the 1/4 mile tracks.

It sounds like you had a lot of fun racing him lol. Now get you a CAI and beat him even worse next time!

Here is some info for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowoff_valve

Superchargers typically will have a bypass valve aka boost actuator valve and turbos a blowoff valve. The blowoff valve is audible but some types of bypass valves are audible as well.

If you go on youtube and type "blow off valve" you can see several videos of cars running them. Kids all over the place here have them on their cars, you can not drive around the block without hearing 2 or 3 of them lol.

Oh very nice i would love to see your vid against an evo can u send me a link? Are u both stock? what evo?
 
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 03:55 AM
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Pressurized engines i.e. are cool to drive. Whether SC or turbo. But I have to say the rush of the turbo is very exhilirating. My 93 RX7 TT is of the sequential variety. This means there is no turbo lag. The first turbo which is always spooled up is engaged below 4k rpm. Hit that magical 4k and the rush of speed is amazing. I equate driving an SC car to driving a NA V8. But driving a TT sequential car is like lighting the aftreburner, it is just plain fun.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by lacerdaschoon
Oh very nice i would love to see your vid against an evo can u send me a link? Are u both stock? what evo?
This was before my new tune, I was only trapping 86mph in the 1/8. He is making close to 400whp, I can get the exact #'s and his mod list if you want:

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...hotoman+videos
 
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by mrphotoman
This was before my new tune, I was only trapping 86mph in the 1/8. He is making close to 400whp, I can get the exact #'s and his mod list if you want:

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...hotoman+videos

Nice kill on the Evo!! Do tracks do those videos?

Is the Needs Wings CAI the one to get, or do you recommend anything else?
Right when I got home last night I started searching for tracks, and think there is a good one in Englishtown NJ and going to check out.

He was so funny though because my girlfriend practically **** her pants.
Almost **** her pants again when they blocked us in the parking lot, lol.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 05:32 AM
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There is a guy here that runs an EVO at the Woodburn track and put down an 11.5 sec 1/4 last time I saw him. He was tuning after each run. Real nice guy and wicked fast car.


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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 05:41 AM
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Evos are nice cars, they go great in the snow, have plenty of room and run great. They are a little overpriced though.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by lacerdaschoon
Decent what evo did u dominate?
I think the guy said it was a 2006 with intake, exhaust and software.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Mimi05SRT6
I think the guy said it was a 2006 with intake, exhaust and software.

Does your intake increase HP?

I want to add a CAI now.... I hear that's the first step.


Does the Needs Wings CAI add HP?


Thanks for any assistance!!
 
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 11:14 AM
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Does your intake increase HP?

I want to add a CAI now.... I hear that's the first step.


Does the Needs Wings CAI add HP?


Thanks for any assistance!!
yes the NeedsWings CAI adds hp. in fact, dynos have shown it can gain 25+ whp!
 
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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yes the NeedsWings CAI adds hp. in fact, dynos have shown it can gain 25+ whp!

WOW-

Wasn't expecting that much gain.
Sorry for the 20 questions but is it a self install or do you need some AutoSkill?

Calling me a beginner would probably be a understatement. lol
 
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by rodimus
WOW-

Wasn't expecting that much gain.
Sorry for the 20 questions but is it a self install or do you need some AutoSkill?

Calling me a beginner would probably be a understatement. lol
It is simple, it even comes with install instructions on CD. Great mod and worth every penny!
 
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKFIN
It is simple, it even comes with install instructions on CD. Great mod and worth every penny!
See, now that I got you onboard I can just sit back and let you push NW intakes.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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It is simple, it even comes with install instructions on CD. Great mod and worth every penny!
Does it really add 20 HP?

That seems like a lot for just an intake.

Do you also have K&N Air Filters? That is something different right?

Sorry I'm so clueless
 
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by gapcrossfire
First off, the noise you heard is the blow-off valve. As someone had previously mentioned, it is standard with any turbo setup. A turbocharger works off of the exhaust gases produces in the engine. The exhaust gases spin the turbine which compresses the incoming air to a higher pressure which means higher power when ignition in the engine block. The fact that they work off of the exhaust makes them inherintly bad for drag racing. A supercharger (like our SRT's) works kind of like a vacuum. Like the turbo, it compresses the air into the plenum giving a more power on the ignition, but unlike a turbo, it doesn't require the engine to 'spool' up the turbine before that power is realized. This is the reason that you have 'instant' power while he takes a while to bring the power on, otherwise known as 'Turbo Lag'. Most modern turbos are pretty good with this, but drive a mid-70s Porsche or 80's turbo hatch and you'll know what I mean!

Now the important part, the Lancer is Mitsubishi's bottom of the barrel car. If you buy a base model Lancer, its kinda like driving a Neon. When you spec an Evo model, its just like putting lipstick on a pig. You have a fast, trackworthy 4-door, but its still just a commuter car. The Crossfire is FAR more refined, better engineered, well built and uses far higher standards in quality than the Mitsu. You can easily mod out an Evo to 1000HP, but people do that all the time with Pintos, old Datsuns, Novas and Chevelles. It doesn't make them good cars, just wicked quick in a quarter mile run.

In summation, I wouldn't waste your time or your gas racing any 'ricer' car. Driving a Crossfire, you should be above it!
Turbo lag is a PITA on the street, but in the 1/4 mile it is rarely an issue. Your launch RPM should be at or above your spool point, and each time you shift, your RPM shouldn't be dropping below your spool point. Generally speaking, in an Evo or STi, you should be launching between 5-6k RPM to take full advantage of the AWD.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rodimus
Does it really add 20 HP?

That seems like a lot for just an intake.

Do you also have K&N Air Filters? That is something different right?

Sorry I'm so clueless
it is a lot for an intake. however, the intake is very restrictive in several spots and getting rid of the restrictions helps increase the horsepower. here is the link to the product with a dyno showing the gains: http://www.needswings.com/ProductDet...?productID=571

of course, you could always make your own similar intake as many members have done with the srt6s on this forum.

if you run a needswings or a similar type of intake, you will just need the cone filter that it comes with (or that you will purchase if you make it). the stock intake has two intake boxes with air filters in them. these stock filters can be replaced with other filters such as BMC Filters, Green Filters, and K&N filters. They allow greater air flow and therefore a slight increase in horsepower and throttle response. However, the gains by just adding filters are nothing compared to getting the Needswings, making your own, or doing an SL55 setup.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 05:09 PM
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Here's a little vid of my buddy Alan's Evo 9 and it's ricer 2.3l 4 banger turbo. LOL


http://videos.streetfire.net/flash/F...000452c6d4b0d8
 
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 05:54 PM
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EVO IX + Meth and a tune = SEX!!
 
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 04:49 AM
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EVO IX + Meth and a tune = SEX!!

I'm surprised at the price, you can get them now at a pretty good price.

It's main competition is a STI correct? Is that much faster?
 
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by gapcrossfire
First off, the noise you heard is the blow-off valve. As someone had previously mentioned, it is standard with any turbo setup. A turbocharger works off of the exhaust gases produces in the engine. The exhaust gases spin the turbine which compresses the incoming air to a higher pressure which means higher power when ignition in the engine block. The fact that they work off of the exhaust makes them inherintly bad for drag racing. A supercharger (like our SRT's) works kind of like a vacuum. Like the turbo, it compresses the air into the plenum giving a more power on the ignition, but unlike a turbo, it doesn't require the engine to 'spool' up the turbine before that power is realized. This is the reason that you have 'instant' power while he takes a while to bring the power on, otherwise known as 'Turbo Lag'. Most modern turbos are pretty good with this, but drive a mid-70s Porsche or 80's turbo hatch and you'll know what I mean!

Now the important part, the Lancer is Mitsubishi's bottom of the barrel car. If you buy a base model Lancer, its kinda like driving a Neon. When you spec an Evo model, its just like putting lipstick on a pig. You have a fast, trackworthy 4-door, but its still just a commuter car. The Crossfire is FAR more refined, better engineered, well built and uses far higher standards in quality than the Mitsu. You can easily mod out an Evo to 1000HP, but people do that all the time with Pintos, old Datsuns, Novas and Chevelles. It doesn't make them good cars, just wicked quick in a quarter mile run.

In summation, I wouldn't waste your time or your gas racing any 'ricer' car. Driving a Crossfire, you should be above it!
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by rodimus
I'm surprised at the price, you can get them now at a pretty good price.

It's main competition is a STI correct? Is that much faster?
Unmodified, the EVO and the STi are a close race. It depends on who you ask (an EVO owner or an STi owner) which is faster. They both seem to have their own religious zealot-type followers and fan-boys. A friend of mine is an STi fan-boy, so I get to hear about how all of the car magazines have been shamelessly pumping the EVO over the STi and how the STi is classes above the EVO, blah blah blah. What I get out of it is that Mitsubishi is greasing more palms at the magazines than Subaru.

While I appreciate that they are both quick and perform quite well, I still say they're both uglier than a mud fence.
 
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