Hey mrphotoman!

A friend of mine on a bike raced a turbo Vette in the 1/4 mile. The bike ran a 45 @ 20mph. The turbo Vette stalled off the line (triggering the clock). By the time he got it started he got down the track and ran a 46 @ 145mph.

IGNORE THE TRAP SPEEDS! THEY MEAN NOTHING!

The bicycle is OBVIOUSLY the faster vehicle.



Again, we're talking about 2 cars. Neither of us know the drivers. Therefore, you take them in a vacuum. I've seen 2 drivers drive the same car and have MASSIVE time differences. That has nothing to do with the car and 100% with the driver.

Your Friend,

Common Sense



HOW ABOUT THIS ONE! (I'm trying to help you)

I take my car and run a 12.5 @ 113. Then Cruzinquick drives MY car to a 12.30 @ 112. WAIT! It's the same car!! What can possibly account for the mysterious difference in time!?!?! How did my CAR get faster!?!??!

Obviously I'm making excuses. Two different people (one with 30 track passes and the other with 300 passes) could never pilot the same car to two different times.

 

loooool...

 

Wow... cannot even recommend a good read on this forum.

 

That's what you get for tripping and falling on your face, then having the nerve to try and tell me how to walk.

 

lol what are you talking about? Nevermind... every forum has one.

 

That would be trying to tell me about cars right after mistaking 3 different cars that are currently in production with one another.



You know what this thread reminds me of? Do any of you guys go to 1/8 mile tracks? At every 1/8th mile you'll find a TON of guys in diesel pick ups (Powerstroke/Cummins/etc). These trucks DOMINATE the 1/8 mile because they have 4WD and about 600 ftlbs of torque from the factory floor. Just stomp that pedal and they're gone.

They are the biggest trash talkers on the planet. They'll go off all day long at car meets about the laundry list of cars they dominate at "the track".

That is, until you get to the 1/4 mile and they are nowhere to be seen, because at the end of the 1/8th they're already running out of steam. Everyone knows this so they roll they're eyes.

But they have that little slip!!!! So they have the fastest machines on the road!!! hahah

*NOTE* I live in Houston, Texas. I'm not saying there aren't fast Diesels out there, btw. Several down here with well over 1000 ftlbs of torque.

 

Yo guys, real racing is about making up scenarios and excuses on why 14 second cars are faster than 10 second cars fo-shizzle dawg!

I gotz to go now, I be makin up some race scenarios fo da big race challenge at da track dis weekend. me an mah homiezzzz be racin our ford escort wif da big 15" speaker stereo mod, holla! Wif dat and our rap skilzz we shod be able ta make up da fastest scenario to be winnin da race wif our hands up in the aiya like we don caiya holla back!



Here are some silly facts for "THE MACHINE":
Fact: The person that crosses the finish line first wins the race.
Fact: The person with the fastest time has the faster car.
Fact: The person with the faster trap speed HAS THE POTENTIAL to be the faster car but until he runs a faster time IT IS NOT the faster car.
Fact: Racing is not about scenarios or "Well if I had this or that I would have won" races. That is ricer bench racing.

 

I understand your point and I agree mostly, a car can be faster at every other facet other than the dig. Unfortunately the 1/4 is the most commonly used and accepted way of determining who's faster in a straightline. On the streets this may not be the case as you might be able to race further than 1/4 and therefore makeup for your cars shortcomings from a dig. But really, who races for longer than a 1/4 on the streets? Most street races are short encounters from stop light to stop light. Making excuses after a race that "O, if somebody else was driving my car it would have beat you" or " Had I had my fatty slicks on the front tires , I would have beat you" are just gay copouts. Race what you brung and except your cars/drivers inherint faults. And in the end take your W or L like a good sport.

 

I love just laying back and reading all of this!

 

I totally agree. I think it's foolish to say that the faster car always wins the race. It doesn't. It happnes all the time when I see the light go off at the end of the 1/4 signifying the winner, but if you compared the time slips, it shows the opposite. Better reaction time, better launch. Does that mean the loser had a slower car? Absolutely not.

A bad driver is a bad driver. We're talking about the CAR here, which is my main point. A car's doesn't "become" faster with a better driver. The car is what it is.

If I beat a car that traps 120mph+, he has a faster car. Make no mistake that I WON and HE LOST. I'm a good driver, he is a bad driver. But I'd never try and BS anyone and say that my car alone was faster.

I disagree about "street racing encounters". The vast majority of street races take place on the freeways from rolls. Dig races are (even more) dangerous for high HP cars on the street. The dig also puts the most strain on the car's components. Nobody breakes axles from a 60 roll.

When guys go out from car meets to race they usually pick a low roll and a high roll and very very occationally a dig.

 

You must be the type of person that HAS to have things in black and white ALL THE TIME. Always gotta feel like you have the best/fastest/coolest... Unfortunately, the world operates in shades of gray.

The statement above in bold is the most asinine statement in this thread. Honestly, I'm still not sure if you still just trying to stir the pot and be a sarcastic *****...or if you are serious.

Nobody is making excuses or being a "ricer" in this thread (like you continue to try to point out) and your immature responses (with slang and sarcasm...pretending to be me I'm assuming) make you look like a 16 year-old with an expensive car that "almost" got beat by a Civic with the same excuses.

I take my wins and losses as I get them and don't make excuses. At the same time, when I took down a modified Corvette (LS1) in my STOCK Neon SRT-4 at the local 1/8 mile we all knew it wasn't because my car was faster. Apparently you would disagree because the timeslip says otherwise?

The thing to remember is that there is ALWAYS someone faster...

Also, take a look at all the NHRA pro drag racers...you think it's always because the CAR is faster? What about bracket racing...what the hell is the point of that?!?!...or do you even know what that is?


If you are going to just bust ***** all day to humor yourself...take it to the Civic forums...or the srtforums (lol). You aren't original or funny in ANYTHING you have said...but...I'm weighing on the side that you are being completely serious. If you ACTUALLY disagree and have an opinion that makes sense...go for it. Right now, you are striking me as a tool who likes fast cars and not a car/competitive racing enthusiast.

 

I'm considering going back and posting up your quotes in this thread full of FAIL, but it would take way too long...I just have some choice ones to point out.

OK...but then you say...

Which kinda sounds like an excuse for the SRT-6 if it loses...


WTF!??!! I'm pretty sure any car is "capable" of having traction (just need to find sticky enough tires)...but that filters down to the next quote...

So you do agree with us...? It's not just about the timeslip or comparison number? I'm so lost......but you are right...it is silly.

 

LMFAO! I love how you make all these assumptions about who I am, that is hysterical. This thread has me laughing my *** off.

As for who has the faster car, yes it is black and white. Power, traction and driving skills all matter when racing but the timeslip is the final say in who is fastest. It really is that simple but ricers and those that love to make excuses seem to think otherwise. Oh well, those people make for a good laugh for those of us that know what really matters lol.

 

Lol, you are trying your best but it just is not good enough. Keep trying though, you may get lucky and get something right.

 

Now look what happened! Why does everything have to be black and white? I want my time slip in legal blue. Race is such a sensitive topic.

Les

 

I think dragstrips should do away with timeslips and then hire 1 ricer and 1 racer to decide who won. They can debate on who had the biggest cross wind, who missed a gear, who forgot to add their octane booster, who burnt their clutch, who forgot to turn vtakkk on, who would have won if they would have had their other mods on the car, if they would have had more bottle pressure in their nawzz system and so on.

I really hope you guys have had as much fun with this thread as I have lol.


Here is a poll so you guys can vote on how you think the fastest car should be decided: https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ad.php?t=31200

 

Not a bad idea. And one could be from the east coast and one from the west. No, that would bring up who has the best DA. For the life of me I can't understand why the better District Attorney makes a difference. Perhaps their street racing?

Les

 

lol this thread is great. Bringing east and west into this is not a good idea. We all know cars with NY tags are faster than cars with CA tags...

 

You know how some people drive around talking on the phone? I drive around thinking ... if i raced that dork in that _____ I would walk him soooo baaad. Yea! You don't want some of this sucka! I win all my races. Every now and then I decide not to race someone. I just know they are driving around thinking how they schooled me. Jerks.

Les

 

Yo velociabstract I just raced you in my mind and I won by 2 car lengths, 3 excuses and 4 future mods that I may or may not install in my car at some point in time!

OWNED!