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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JHM2K
I asked Rudy about this over the phone, he had never heard of such. I had read that as well and asked him specifically for the exact same subject of concern.

Right now, I'm at ~15 cranks w/o firing, give or take
Well Rudy is the man, but I think I read that somewhere on this Forum also.

Something about after 30 cranks with no start, the Security system thinks it a robbery, and shuts it down (for good).

I tried finding the thread, but came up short...
 
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 06:49 PM
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This is where I first caught wind of it..
Photo Of Skreem Module And Ignition Ring

Originally Posted by britishcommando
Guys the reason I was looking for the complete unit was because I think the car has been attempted to be started over the dreaded '30' times which is meant to ruin the ECU. However, I was unaware that I could use a skreem only from another vehicle.
The guys at Chrysler are being very helpful but haven't come across this problem before. They are being patient with me and have let me keep my car in their workshop whilst i try and find the parts. But after 3 full days searching breakers etc I'm starting to lose hope.
The problem I'm having is trying to find someone with a manual transmission.

I'm running out of options fast.

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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 03:36 PM
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SHE RUNS!!!

To give everyone cliff notes, here is the timeline of the fiasco:
  • Started, ran rough. Each time the car was started after initial sensor failure, idled extremely rough. Tried this 4 times and dove into the repair.
  • Changed CPS (cam) with brand new Beck-Arnley unit. Went from rough idle to no start.
  • Checked RCM... no damage
  • Changed CPS (crank). Would crank all day long, but no start.
  • Scratched heads and assumed the worst for three days.
  • Today, changed the front CPS from the Beck Arnley unit back to the OEM Bosch unit. Reset battery for ten minutes. VROOOM!!!!
So, lesson for all. If your car came with Bosch CPS (cam), DO NOT use the Beck Arnley unit. Yes, they're supposed to be interchangeable. No, they're not.

So, after one week and lots of worrying, it was the CPS (crank) that had failed. Yes, we replaced that with Bosch as well.

So, the car lives, glory to God!!!

Steve was an immense help in all of this as well. I owe him a new CPS and a 24-pack of anything he wants...
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 03:44 PM
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As 180 often says : " Bosch or stay home".

Congrats on the repair!
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 04:03 PM
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Glad to have you back buddy!
I am gonna buy a spare bosch for sure
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 04:28 PM
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Warms my heart twice when I see:
the car lives, glory to God!!!

now one more?????

what do you mean by....Reset battery for ten minutes?
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 05:45 PM
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John,
I'm glad you got it all figured out.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by papas34
what do you mean by....Reset battery for ten minutes?
Unhook the negative cable, and let it sit unhooked for ten minutes... this was just something I did to clear any errors that may have been stored in the system.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 06:14 PM
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So what I'm seeing in this and past threads.. The CPS may or may not throw a CEL and code?
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 06:16 PM
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There may have been a fault code internally that STAR-DAS would have seen, but nothing on the dash (CEL)
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 06:54 PM
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John , glad it up and running , hay anyway that you can post the part #s , so as we look back at this post for reference we know what parts to look for ,
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Osofast2
John , glad it up and running , hay anyway that you can post the part #s , so as we look back at this post for reference we know what parts to look for ,
Sure thing

Mercedes-Benz part number A 004 153 96 28

^^^that's the camshaft position sensor we reinstalled that got the car running again... Perhaps Steve can post the p/n of the "crank" CPS we took out... the one we put in was identical
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 07:30 PM
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crank position sensor
bosch # 0261210171
m/b # a00315327 28
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 07:41 PM
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You two are the best ! Thanks
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
crank position sensor
Bosch # 0261210171
Note:
The above Bosch # is for the SRT6.
Bosch #0261210170 for the na Crossfire although it says this item also replaces Bosch # 0 261 210 171 (0261210171) so they may be interchangeable anyway.
I ordered mine here

Glad ya got her back up and running guys
 

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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by VALKRYDERGUY
Note:
The above bosch # is for the SRT6.
Bosch #0261210170 for the na Crossfire

Glad ya got her back up and running guys
actually valk the # ending 0 is in johns car now. thats what was on the original packaging #. the # ending 1 was taken off his old crank sensor
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
actually valk the # ending 0 is in johns car now. thats what was on the original packaging #. the # ending 1 was taken off his old crank sensor
OK....I guess either one will work then....my bad
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 11:10 PM
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I had to do the battery disconnect to reset my ECU this morning too..... got a CEL last night and figured it was another P0505 Ideal air error so I drove home. This morning when I fired up the car the idle was at 1500+.... the error code was P0505 and P0507 Idle RPM too high... disconnecting the battery for more than 30 minutes cleared it up.....
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 08:27 PM
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Fantastic! I felt your pain and am glad to hear that the car is back up and running. Next time you make it down to Atlanta if you need a Star/DAS I can hook you up.

I am happy to report that my car is back to 100%. Soft throttle response was the MAP sensor going bad. SC noise was a bad bearing (bad from the factory).
 
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