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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 11:28 PM
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SHE'S ALL DONE FOLKS... CUSTOM DUAL CAI.

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I did have to grind the pipes inside the T splitter. This is what they looked like BEFORE I cut them.

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Now, they are completely opened up. Just took a sharpie, outlined what needed to be cut and used a dewalt grinder. SHE'S BEAST!!! I CAN FEEL THE POWER!! I CAN HEAR THE SUPERCHARGER SCREAM!!!

IT ONLY COST ME ABOUT 160$!!!!!
 
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 11:43 PM
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All you need is x4 1' 45 degree pipes, x2 1' straight pipes, 2 filters, x4 3" couplers, x10 3" T Bolt Clamps, x1 3.5mm T Bolt Clamp and the TEE SPLITTER I LINKED IN MY OTHER THREAD!!!!!! JYEEEAAAAH BUDDY!!!!!!!!! Now all need is some Teflon to spray up in that **** :P
 
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 11:49 PM
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I will be recording a video in a moment to show the SUPER WHINE that the Dual CAI intake opened up... Stay Tuned kids!!!

Also have a Tuning cable in the mail (I HOPE it's in the mail at least...) so I will be getting a tune in the next week... (I hope)...
 
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 11:52 PM
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Not trying to poke holes in your new setup but there are some potential problems with your setup. There isn't much cold about your cold air intake as you're still drawing air from behind the radiator. Also, I'm sure it sounds great hearing the supercharger but what flow characteristics do you think that T exhibits as the air is entering the throttle body? Believe it or not, air-flow would be better through a regular elbow vs that T. Just an aside, a few years ago, Code3 came out with a green filter plate you could use to replace the rear cover on the intake splitter and while it sounded great, it actually decreased performance because it was drawing in hot air from under the hood and it messed with the flow characteristics of the intake.

Just some food for thought. It does look good though and if you're happy with it, that's all that matters but if you're looking for some serious performance gains, check out the NeedsWings Dual CAI.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:02 AM
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Oh I definately feel the power. It's a suction mechanism, not a "Forced Air Induction" mechanism... The suction is created inside of the Tee and the air is drawn from the pipes. It doesn't "**** air into the supercharger at a high rate and the supercharger catches the air".

About the cold air, I actually have devil horns in the front with pipes going through pointing directly at the air filters, also, I cut out the top right and top left "Flaps" in the grill, which cause the air trajectory to pull more into that than any other part of the grill. It's DEFINATELY a NOTICEABLE difference. Before I cut out the pipes in the Tee, Yes, I noticed a power "decrease". But once I opened those up... 20 HP increase, minimum... I will be getting a dyno within the next two weeks and we will see though.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:04 AM
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**** the Needswings 900$ Silicone Coupler, aluminum piping, spray on teflon and a nifty emblem. That's all I'm gonna say about that...

Not ******* on Rob, he's an AWESOME GUY. But I'm not paying 800$ for a coupler. Period. Teflon ain't ****.
 

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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by jiggityjosh
Oh I definately feel the power. It's a suction mechanism, not a "Forced Air Induction" mechanism... The suction is created inside of the Tee and the air is drawn from the pipes. It doesn't "**** air into the supercharger at a high rate and the supercharger catches the air".
Actually, it's about laminar flow and the fact that if you have low pressure zones in the intake, the air is just swirling around in there occupying space and not getting sucked into the supercharger.

Looking forward to the dyno results. I'm guessing a more conservative 10rwhp gain with just the intake. The only real way to test this is with the hood down during both runs with the factory intake and your new setup and it goes without saying that obviously you're gonna pick up a significant amount of power with the tune so remember that when factoring in your outcome.

Take care
 
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 12:49 AM
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Yea, I'm not making any claims to be better than needswings intake, but for 1/7th the price and 1 hour of labor, this is definately a VIABLE UPGRADE. I might gain a couple horsepower from the needswings intake, maybe a noticeable amount more, that's up in the air at this time...

But just for the whine and VERY noticeable gain I have already gotten, I am getting more power over the SL55 airbox upgrade, and a MUCH MORE PREVALENT WHINE from the supercharger. I'm getting at the cery least 15 WHP out of this and maybe even more after I order the "Doesn't NeedWings" emblem to weld on the pipes and the can of spray on teflon.

I will be sure to take my Stock srt6 airbox to the tune and see my max because I want the best I can get for the price. If I'm only getting 8-10 whp then yea, definately needswings. But I will with both that way the ecu tune isn't a factor.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 09:43 AM
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HP never comes cheap with these cars, but if you are happy with it. There you go. A lot of work and research went into the design of the Needswings CAI. I started with a single. Went to the double, really for the look factor, but after the install, it did make a difference. It really is all about flow. You can't "ram" air these cars, and any improvement in the CAI is just that, an improvement over stock. Looks good... Both my cars are equipped that way now...
 
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 10:24 AM
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Any recommendations for parts sources?
 
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 10:38 AM
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This is for mine, see my signature. Your choice.


Dual CAI Parts List

• 2) Spectre #9833 3" I/O Air Box (Summit # SPE-9833) Summit Racing
• 2) Max-Redline 3" 90 Degree Elbows, Aluminum (M-R # PIP300-90) Max-Redline.com
• 1) Intakehoses.com 3" X 3 1/2" Reducer Elbow (Intake Hoses # 90L35R30)
• 2) Intakehoses.com 3" X 3" coupler (Intake Hoses # C40B-300X3)
• 1) Intakehoses.com Hose Clamp for 3 1/2" ID Hose (Intake Hoses # 64060)
• 7) Intakehoses.com Hose Clamp for 3" ID Hose (Intake Hoses # 64048)
• 1) Intakehoses.com 3" X 3” Tee (Intake Hose # 90T333) Intake Hoses, IntakeTubing, and Intake Clamps

Vendors:

Summitracing.com
Max-Redline.com
Intakehoses.com
 
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 10:45 AM
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I got the rubber tee coupler from intakehoses.com.
I got the rest of the pieces from siliconeintakes.com.

If you want front mounted intake, you will also need the 70$ condenser hose relocation kit from needswings.

I went with an inside the engine compartment mounting an here is what I used.

x4 3 inch 45 degree 1 foot long mandrel aluminun bends
X2 3 inch 1 foot long straights
X4 3 inch couplers
X1 3.5 inch t clamp
X10 3 inch t clamps
X2 filters (i got the ones with carbon fiber weather guards, but they will need some major customization to be made to fit.) but you can take them off in the meantime with 4 screws.

The 3.5 clamp goes on the rubber t at the throttle body.

You will also beed to either custom fit a slot in the driver side intake for the vaccuum hose (which I did using my old radiator hose that was left over after the intercooler isolation kit) or you can just custom fit a little filter on the old hose there, or put the filter directly connected to the metal plug where the hose connects to the driver side manifold.

I actually cut a perfect oval hole, big enough for me to fit the old plastic coupler in by sqeezing with pliers, then releasing, so it returned to cylindrical natural form and is literally locked in place. Then I slid the radiator hose onto the couplers and secured them with pinch clamps. (the same ones that were on my radiator hose to begin with. . )

My suggestion would be to get the intercooler isolation kit for the increase in cooling as well as having the hose leftover after to do what I did. I just cut the hose off right where the shortest end curves up and then installed the plug on the bottom side of the drivers side intake.

Let me know if you need any more info.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 10:59 AM
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Keep in mind that if you want front mount filters. You will need different parts. Instead of x2 1 foot long straights you would want x1 3 inch 2 foot 90 degree mandrel, x1 2.5 inch 2 foot long mandrel bend, x2 3 to 2,5 inch silicone reducers, one less 3 inch coupler, 1 less 3 inch t clamp and add 1 2.5 inch clamp.

You will also need to be able to cut out the notches in the pipes, inside of the rubber tee, at the throttle body inlet part of the tee, to give it the airflow that it needs.

I drove it without cutting those pipes for a brief comparison and it was a different animal lol.....

If you decide to go with maxcichon's set up, you will also beed to meticulously abd perfectly craft and weld two 90 STAINLESS STEEL degree bends into one wye tee (Do not weld aluminum for this piece...) This piece may end up proving expensive, time consuming, trial and error plus labor from a welder. But you might nail it right off the bat.
That's Your call. It's always good to have some variety. His definately looks more proffessional from a oroffessional standpoint but aside from that, you can't really tell on mine either....

Have fun!!!
 
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 11:31 AM
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JJosh, in the list (from 2011) I included the same 3" tee you used, bud! I had to find an alternative for others. One day (!) I'll re-make it with an aluminum y-pipe.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 02:05 PM
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TIG, TIG, TIG..... lol....
 
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 02:24 PM
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TIG, TIG, TIG..... lol....
Doc-I know! But, I can't weld aluminum. Especially .060" wall!

Dammit...
 
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by maxcichon
Doc-I know! But, I can't weld aluminum. Especially .060" wall!

Dammit...
Give me your phone number.. we have several applicants that can weld a pop can back together and it not leak!
 
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmiata
Give me your phone number.. we have several applicants that can weld a pop can back together and it not leak!
Double dammit! I want this to be one piece from the MAF to the filter can outlets. It'll be a one-joint-at-a-time build to make it fit the way I want it. You're just too far away, Okie!

Thanks for the thought, though.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 02:41 PM
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Key word - "applicants".. have bills will travel.. LOL
 
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 02:42 PM
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Key word - "applicants".. have bills will travel.. LOL
And I seem to have a shortage of those.

But, I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a welding job today!
 
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