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Old Oct 23, 2022 | 02:47 PM
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Default Turns over every time but no start

I have a 2005 srt6 my problem started while driving to work 30min into commute the car dies of the freeway at 75. Mph coast off freeway put the car in park and restart car car sputtering and no throttle response , shut car off and restart it again it starts and runs. 3 days later after sitting 9hrs at work ,start car. To leave it starts no throttle and sputtering. Shut of car and restart car runs fine. A week later driving to work it dies at 75 and never restarts. I see your forum and buy cam crank rcm in battery box. Car turns over fine but will not start. It seem like when starting it keeps cranking for 5 to ten seconds by its self. Never noticed this because it always started. Please guys give me the answers !Thanks rudy
 
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Old Oct 23, 2022 | 04:28 PM
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Default Re: Turns over every time but no start

first how many miles on your srt6?
dis connect batt ,pump brake or open door 4 to 5 times to discharge system,,
reconnect batt car MAY start and drive home. replace cam and crank sensors..use bosch only
Oh ! first replace the rcm , then replace sensers ,,, Now send your rcm to tj for repair or do it your self and when it still doesn't work send it to tj
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...-no-start.html
 
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Old Oct 23, 2022 | 04:55 PM
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Three things before I say: "Welcome to the forum":

Originally Posted by Durgalar
I see your forum and buy cam crank rcm in battery box.
1) What does that sentence mean? You are asking for advice on diagnosing a car here, you have got to be clear and specific.

2) Did you buy a new RCM and New Crank Sensor? If so and the issue still happens, my first question: Exactly what CPS did you buy? MANY have fought hard, long battles because they bought a cheap knock-off of a Crank Sensor. If you did not buy a BOSCH from FCPEuro, German Auto Supply or AutohausAZ, then you are wasting your time and ours. Get the RIGHT part and see where things go.

3) Now, the spongy throttle, in my mind, clears the RCM and Crank sensor. The fact it clears on a restart, and how it comes and goes, makes me ask: "What is your fuel pressure when the car is acting up?" Low fuel pressure does WEIRD stuff:
  • Sometimes starts easy, sometimes hard.
  • Sometimes runs fine, sometimes can only idle but cant handle the accelerator being pushed.
  • Sometimes can barely idle
... it all depends on how low the fuel pressure is. You've got to have 55-62psi at the rail. This simple to use test kit saved me twice, once with the Crossfire, once with the Ford Ranger:
OTC Tools 5630 OTC Fuel Pressure Testers | Summit Racing
Get one, $50 or less with shipping and you can test for fuel pressure as easily as you can check for a low tire. Takes all the guesswork out of "I wonder if I have fuel pressure?"

A final note:
Our cars are aging, if you have the OEM pump, you are on borrowed time. You cannot assume the pump is OK and I do not care if you can hear it run or not. IF you are going to try to fix this yourself, quit wasting time throwing parts at the car and see if you have fuel.

To get the car to run, you need:
Fuel
Air
Spark
Compression

You know you have compression and air, do you have spark and fuel? The crank and cam sensors are part of "Do I have spark"? The RCM and fuel pump/filter/regulator are part of "Do I have fuel pressure?" Measuring fuel pressure is way easier (for me anyway) than figuring out if I have spark.

Wait......... you have too little air if the throttle body's butterfly is not working right. This can be a bad TB. But the way you describe how it's acting, I"m leaning away from the TB. So far, that is.
Let's find out what the fuel pressure is. If it's 55-60psi, we can move on to other stuff. But on Facebook, we've seen reports of more and more fuel pumps dying. And they die slowly, like what you are describing. Good news is, they are easy to figure out, with the kit I showed you. Best $35 I've spent in the garage in a LONG time.
 

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Old Oct 25, 2022 | 09:12 AM
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I was trying say I purchased a new rcm and installed it. Still no start. Replaced crank sensor
and cam sensor with new parts still no start. Only problem the sensors were aftermarket
so I have ordered the Bosch sensors just waiting for them to come in, then I will try it all over again . Also waiting for a fuel pressure test ki, thanks your helping again Guys.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2022 | 01:04 PM
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Default Re: Turns over every time but no start

88k miles
 
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Old Oct 25, 2022 | 07:22 PM
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I lived in union city 50 years ago we use to fish and play in real foot lake
as for your crossfire right now i do not know of a repair shop but will check with matt for the no start.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2022 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Durgalar
I was trying say I purchased a new rcm and installed it. Still no start. Replaced crank sensor
and cam sensor with new parts still no start. Only problem the sensors were aftermarket
so I have ordered the Bosch sensors just waiting for them to come in, then I will try it all over again . Also waiting for a fuel pressure test ki, thanks your helping again Guys.
Yea, aftermarket cam/crank sensors are a total waste. We've seen so many people fight long battles only to find that the crank sensor was the issue all along, but when they put some random part in, the car half ran or didnt run at all -making them think the crank sensor was not the issue at all.
 
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