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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 04:11 PM
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I think the variable intake plenum might create just a tad of lag in response time due to the volume change when switching between ports. I would like to weld up a S/C intake manifold at a later time, when everything else is mounted and proven.

Do you know how they managed to lower the CR to 9:1 on the SRT6? Are they using stock 3.2L pistons and connecting rods, or are the heads machined different?

I look forward to hearing about the teardown!
kleemann says 6 psi is completely safe for the limited, so i wouldn't worry too much. and from what i understand the amg engine shares zero internals with us and very few parts.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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Do you know which parts are different on AMG32?

I will guess they have different cams on AMG engine but not on the SRT6, due to the fact that the AMG32 makes 25 hp more than SRT6.

I know our 3.2 has forged connecting rods, so do the AMG/SRT motors.
Maybe they also have a higher flow oil pump? Supposedly HDDP has acquired an AMG engine, but he is being tight lipped on the difference between our N/A motors, for what ever reason it may be.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 07:41 AM
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Update me, has anyone successfully accomplished this yet? Has anyone at all managed to supercharge or turbocharge a limited or base Crossfire other than myself in the few months I haven't been on since everyone rejected my kit? Just curious.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 01:33 PM
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Update me, has anyone successfully accomplished this yet? Has anyone at all managed to supercharge or turbocharge a limited or base Crossfire other than myself in the few months I haven't been on since everyone rejected my kit? Just curious.
Whoaaa...you modified your Crossfire without posting pictures/dyno runs/drag runs on the forum? Please confirm this. I believe you mentioned that you have an 11 second Crossfire? HOW? Details please would be great.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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Update me, has anyone successfully accomplished this yet? Has anyone at all managed to supercharge or turbocharge a limited or base Crossfire other than myself in the few months I haven't been on since everyone rejected my kit? Just curious.
i actually never rejected it and was interested. you built your engine thought didn't you? can you post anything up. i know this forums is full of haters but i wasn't one of them.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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I know, I was frustrated with those that were rejecting it. All specs on my car will be available shortly along with the turbo kit for sale.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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I know, I was frustrated with those that were rejecting it. All specs on my car will be available shortly along with the turbo kit for sale.
can you give us a price estimate?
 
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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afws04, I'll be excited to get more info on your mods. I am sorry to see your frustrations with some members, but I can tell you that I can't wait to get more info on what you have done to your Crossfire.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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Well your not compressing the air that much on the low boost system, probably 6 psi. The thing about the roots blower is they operate better at faster speeds mostly due to the gap sealing of the rotor against the housing, this is another reason I'm going centrifugal. If you get crazy your can change the pulley to 14 psi but you might want to order the AMG 32 pistons. That should get you up to 330 hp. After that the AMG cams are optimized for boosting, so you might get another 25 hp.
You keep saying "Roots Blower", which system uses a roots blower? The AMG, SRT-6 and Kleeman do not!
 
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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You keep saying "Roots Blower", which system uses a roots blower? The AMG, SRT-6 and Kleeman do not!
Really? I always thought that AMG/SRT and Kleeman use a roots-style blower. Please prove otherwise. Maybe I am mistaking what a true roots style blower is??
 
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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AMG/SRT and Kleemann use a Lysholm "twin screw" supercharger. They are efficient up to 18 psi or so. A roots blower like on the Cobra/Lightning and the Mercedes C230 are only efficient to maybe 8 psi.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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Ahhh...yes Bushpilot, that is true. I always thought those two words, roots-style and twin screw were synonymous. But I guess not.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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How would we tune our ECU to cope with the boost? I've fount this to be the big problem.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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How would we tune our ECU to cope with the boost? I've fount this to be the big problem.
No rest for the tired threads on this forum. You just bumped a thread that's been dead for 2 1/2 years. LOL
 
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 03:03 PM
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How would we tune our ECU to cope with the boost? I've fount this to be the big problem.
Interesting question, earlier you sure sounded like you had it all figured out when I asked you the same question several months ago...

Originally Posted by kris,USMC,IRAQ
LET does the tuning for me. Instead of allowing the ECU to adapt to the added boost it runs like the boost came stock on the car. larger injectors will be need. Are the injectors the same on the SRT-6? the guys at LET have converted an SRT-6 to turbo and are running 450hp on the injectors.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 04:14 PM
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yep, it is a problem, but EuroCharged is working on that one...nice ole' thread though...
 
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 12:07 AM
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I would think internals should be no problem... just purchase amg32 rods and pistons and but them in your n/a but keep in mind the n'a ecu can't see any boost so you will need to put a MAF sensor in that can see the boost and build all new fuel maps.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 01:12 AM
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I would think internals should be no problem... just purchase amg32 rods and pistons and but them in your n/a but keep in mind the n'a ecu can't see any boost so you will need to put a MAF sensor in that can see the boost and build all new fuel maps.
Also the one and only difference betwean th NA and supercharged is the heads. All other internals are the same so replacing the heads would almost give you an SRT-6 (minus the supercharger) unfortunatly the cost is $1600 a head. I also found a site were you can buy the factory supercharger again costly, around $4,600. The LET tune I was going to get has me a little worried now that my contact in LET hasnt contacted me in months. Maybe I can work with Split Second for the tune
 
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by kris,USMC,IRAQ
Also the one and only difference betwean th NA and supercharged is the heads. All other internals are the same so replacing the heads would almost give you an SRT-6 (minus the supercharger) unfortunatly the cost is $1600 a head. I also found a site were you can buy the factory supercharger again costly, around $4,600. The LET tune I was going to get has me a little worried now that my contact in LET hasnt contacted me in months. Maybe I can work with Split Second for the tune
Contact Eurocharged... Eurocharged and LET are in the same building and most of the tuning and hardware services in now done with through the Eurocharged brand.

www.eurocharged.com
sales@eurocharged.com
 
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